Are these signs of inexperience?

I notice guys always say they're more experienced then they are and you can always tell they lie because they'll give some ridiculous number that is obviously fake. The more experienced guys always say they have no idea. So,here's some signs i've gotten and am not sure about.
-claimed to have had sex just a week ago,and that the girl only wanted sex back on our first date. it just sounded so fake to me. maybe it wasn't. but,still. it just seemed like when i randomly asked him the question before our date,like he was looking to fluff up his experience to seem more masculine.
-seems to have some ideas of doing things that comes more from being told that's how you do things vs actual experience.
-very clingy and rushing for involvement.
-very sexually forceful despite being a very polite guy normally
-kisses were a little bit sloppy. not enough to be an issue,but that to me i would take as a sign of inexperience
-seems to want alcohol to feel comfortable
-when he was fingering me,this is embarrassing to say and overshare..sometimes he wasn't doing it quite right. like he was hitting the wrong spot and going rough while doing it so it hurt. this to me screams inexperience.
-he wore fragrance. have no idea if this is a sign or not. but,i could smell that he had put some kind of cologne on.
-after kissing for literally 2 seconds,he went straight to trying to finger me which shocked me. again,i would think a more experienced guy would kiss and build up to more and more little by little
-he has said i'm more experienced then him with relationships,at least.
-lately,most of the guys i've attracted are more on the inexperienced side for some reason.
-seems very very excited to be in a relationship with me. kept following up on it when i brought it up.
-just a feeling i get
ways he does seem experienced include little things he says like how he claimed he had sex with a girl though it felt like a lie,and little comments like that. Also,he has a very peverted side towards me in text and i can't help but wonder what makes him think he can get away with some of that,unless he's been getting away with it with others? That,and he never really seems nervous on dates. He's hard to figure out. He is attractive and dresses well and knows how to be chivalrous but has a slight nerd-ish side look to him,too.

at times,he looks like he is very confident but i know he's told me he was taught before he moved to my city to go after what he wants,and he's always followed that ever since. I honestly prefer that he is less experienced. It'd let me know what i'm working with and i have this belief that if a guy is less experienced,they'd be less likely to cheat.

No.

These are signs of a liar and rapist.

I think you should google "signs of an abuser".

He sounds abusive to me.

The man you described in this and other threads show sings of dangerous and violent man, not inexperienced. Him dressing well or putting on cologne has nothing to do with anything. As I said in other threads never be alone with this person. Block his contact and call police if he shows up

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I agree, be careful please...

Really seems like your desperation to avoid isolation clouds your judgment to an excessive degree.


Everything you post about this guy is red flag central, yet you continue to try and justify his disrespectful and assholian behaviour, despite members taking the time to point out that he's bad news.




I.just.dont.get.it

As a side note, I find it really strange that you like to play the numbers game with potential lovers.... I don't see how comparing notes and number of exes help a potential romance to bloom. You may want to rethink that strategy of yours.

Yes, it sounds like he is inexperienced. Also, it sounds like he's a type of guy that women don't want to have around. He's not just inexperienced with sex, he's inexperienced with relationships, and he's likely to stay that way. He can't rack up much experience because women quickly find him creepy and they avoid him.

This guy is extremely immature, and he's going to lag behind in that department for the rest of his life. He sounds rather lonely and desperate.

There are few things you have mentioned that are really troubling. I think I'd have to side with everyone else on this one. WALK AWAY.

I'm not familiar with the other threads and don't get the abuser vibe from this list as you've outlined it here, but maybe my information is incomplete.

I am not sure that these are signs of inexperience so much as signs of oafish behavior. Talking about sleeping with someone else on your first date is kind of numb. The rest of it sounds like someone who has a one track mind and isn't very good at seduction.

Me too, not seeing rapist and abuser evidence, must be missing something.
Boy I've known some turkeys. I relate to this like it is nothing... I agree, kiss and tell is an immature game to play. Better not to ask guys how many sex partners they've had or tell them about yours. I'm not saying never or lie, but just not in general.

What signs are of lying?

Yeah,he has some signs. But,i feel like it can easy for anyone to seem like they have signs.

I have no one. Plus,he is attractive and could be of benefit to me. What numbers game do you mean? Wanting to know how many partners they had? Maybe it is meaningless. I just get curious to try and gauge them a bit and know more about them.

Yeah,i agree with the first paragraph. I wonder if this is because maybe he grew up very shy of women for so long and then didn't know how to be? I notice guys less experienced sometimes seem to be more like this. I swear,he wasn't creepy the first time we met when we worked together,though! That's why i'm having so much trouble figuring this all out. I'm really good at reading people,and he seemed like the very respectable,innocent,type guy. I had thought I was the "bad girl" type in comparison to him. I think i was picking up on something back then,reading him a bit.Idk what to do. Maybe he is bad. Did he just change then? Did he just have his career and city living make him go jaded and crazy?

Well,i had asked him before our first date when was the last time he had sex. I was curious. When he told me,it seemed like a lie,like he was just making things up to seem like he is getting some. I asked him more about it on the date to try and figure out more about it,and his character from it. He said the girl wasn't interested and only wanted a one night stand and also seemed to imply he would choose me over her anyways.

See,so then it's just him being an imperfect person,right? Everyone has their flaws and mistakes. I make mistakes,too. I like asking random questions.

If you spend enough time with him, you'll learn a lot of the answers to these questions. But that's what it takes . . . a lot of time. You can't gaze into a crystal ball.

This guy is kind of a jerk. I wouldn't be all that interested in getting to know a jerk better. Who cares how and why he became a jerk? Like - are you going to become his therapist and try to coax him into not being a jerk? Have at it, if you can't find anything better to do.

In the end, he'll still be a jerk. Eventually, people will tag you as the girl who hangs out with jerks.

I can't help it. Understanding things helps me.

He is a jerk.

I have recently broken up with somebody of a similar sort, as you have explained of course. He would brag about how many girls he would get, how amazing he was in bed etc. I soon came to realise it was just all egotistical crap.. He has a very competitive personality, a lot of it is constructed with his ego..everything literally comes back to his ego and he cannot take if something or someone is better than him in any way.

Now sexually yes he was amazing, but in terms of the girls it was all ******** as he would never mention the rejection he received. Now one thing bothers me about him, I cannot quite work out if he actually acknowledges he is a ********ter and does not get all the lasses he thinks he can get..as I have studied at uni with him and have come across the girls myself and all their stories were very similar.. or that he is genuinely convinced by his egotistical ********..like that he believes it as his perspective is **** or that he jus rejects the actual rejection he gets and believes what he wants to! Even towards the end like if I would relatively talk about somebody at uni that I had an encounter with, like kiss or whatever, he would make up **** that he had done in some sort of underlying revenge. It was really weird. And u would have no idea he was lying, as I believed everything he said until recently when I went over it he denied it all and actually found out off the girls nothing happened either. WAS WEIRD!

But it all goes right back down to insecurity. You must be better than him in ways that you appear to come across as a threat to him, perhaps you are more experienced in areas who knows? But it sounds to me like he cannot take your above him in a way, when all he needs to do is openly express the reality of who he is. Guys don't understand that we appreciate that!

Wow. That IS weird. See,guys can be weird. I am very attractive,but he works with a lot of attractive girls. I am a little older then him and seem more experienced then him. He also thinks i've done all these cool and amazing things,and do a lot of upscale things and get a lot of vip treatment. I'd be used to normal guys being intimidated by me but he works with beautiful women so it just confuses me. It makes me think either it's fake that he was intimidated by me,though it doesn't seem like it,he's seemed so infatuated or that he must be very inexperienced. I get insecure and don't see how i can be that great for him to be so into me. He doesn't seem to get that i get insecure,too. And,instead just acts like i'm constantly rejecting him. It bothers me how insecure guys act. They make me feel like i'm so experienced and have so much going on but sometimes i just can't see what they see in me.

My friend/the ex says he thinks he must really like me a lot and that's why he is being this way. He doesn't know about the stuff on here,just that we hung out recently and i ignored his text and now he's been weird and we had text fight so from those details.he was the one who encouraged me to text him and ask how is his day going earlier. So,maybe it was good because at least i laid it out on the table a little bit.

Men who like you a lot ask to date you, they don't take you by force and don't treat you crappy. Men who like you treat you accordingly.

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I disagree.

Huh? You disagree?