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Old Nov 28, 2018, 09:59 PM
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Sorry your childhood was so tough--it is understandable that you will always be sorting out the effects of it all on you.

There is also a verse that says, "Love must be sincere. Hate what is evil; cling to what is good." I try to hate the things people do but find things about them I love or like. If you don't feel love, all you can do is evaluate their actions remembering the things they did for you. If you were neglected, not feeling love is understandable==and it might be you protecting yourself from being hurt==as in a coping mechanism you learned for your survival. Perhaps you haven't even allowed yourself to fully cry and recognize just how hurtful they were. Talking about it here is good for you. At funerals, I have noticed that everyone seems to grieve differently (maybe because everyone's relationships vary from person to person?). I am sorry they made your life so difficult. I do think that the mistakes, abuse, hardships, etc. that children endure can set them up for more secure or more difficult lives. They did some things to you that made you life more difficult so you need to continue to acknowledge that. The truth is the truth.

I have noticed you really do practice consistent kindness on PC. Maybe all the hardships have made you more able to love others who have also had to deal with tough things. And maybe you were just born with a gentle, giving temperament also. I am glad you are here. Thanks to your parents for making you! Though I do understand that you have a lot of emotional pain because of the neglectful, mean and unloving things that they did or allowed to happen.
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Old Nov 28, 2018, 10:09 PM
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So sorry about your childhood.

I don't think you can force love. I don't really love anyone in my family. One brother was abusive, but my parents and other brother weren't really. I try to just be kind, but it does bug me that I don't love them.
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Old Nov 29, 2018, 04:09 AM
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((((katydid777)))) We all love you here. Let us know how it goes with your T.
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Old Nov 29, 2018, 03:13 PM
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This is so hard for me bc they never honored me in any way. They never encouraged me, and even when I did very good, like honor roll I was told I should have done better.
I'm sorry that this has happened to you! I could never do anything right for my parents. My niece and nephew were more important than me to my parents.
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Old Nov 29, 2018, 03:14 PM
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Thats what im saying. My parents were the same way. You dont owe them anything. Dont go out of your way. Do what you think is enough, what truly satisfies you.
I completely agree with you!
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Old Nov 29, 2018, 03:15 PM
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I can't do anything anymore bc they passed away 4 &6 years ago. I just have a problem that I don't feel anything. I see things on FB all the time about people's moms, and dads, and I can't even comment on them bc people wouldn't understand.
I completely understand!
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Old Nov 29, 2018, 03:17 PM
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I thought you meant you had to do something about their ashes.

There are quite a few people here on PC who need support dealing with their parents. They dont know if its okay to go no-contact, for example. I feel, now that i have gotten off that awful merry-go-round, that the best thing i can do is pay it forward and help them to stop torturing themselves, as my t and other resources, such as books and PC, helped me.
That great advice!I wish that I had thought about that myself!
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Old Nov 29, 2018, 03:19 PM
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Thank you, I did go no contact for 2 years before my mom passed, after that when my dat was on hospice one of my sisters convinced me to go see him. He said he was sorry, but never said why. So when they passed I cried, only bc I know that I will never find things out about them, and me, my chances were up. Now I don't feel a thing about them, and it has been that way from the time I knew I would never get answers.
I went six months without speaking to my mom. I wish that I had stuck to that! I would have less problem.
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Old Nov 29, 2018, 03:22 PM
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Don't know if this is helpful or not, but for what it's worth, the worst beating I ever got was when my abusive female parental unit spat at me during one of her raging tirades that the bible says to honor your mother and father and I replied that it also says for parents to not provoke their children to anger.

It really makes me so angry that people (especially parents) use what's supposed to be a "good" book to justify them doing some of the most vile, filthy and evil things to the most innocent, vulnerable and defenseless amongst us ... A Child!

Come to think of it, to hell with them and their bible ... And if there is a god, they've got a lot of explaining to do because I'll never understand why some all powerful entity puts children into such soul destroying situations then condemns them to hell for losing all hope, faith, trust and belief!

My mom slap me will hard all because I had lost my faith.
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Old Nov 29, 2018, 03:23 PM
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Don't know if this is helpful or not, but for what it's worth, the worst beating I ever got was when my abusive female parental unit spat at me during one of her raging tirades that the bible says to honor your mother and father and I replied that it also says for parents to not provoke their children to anger.

It really makes me so angry that people (especially parents) use what's supposed to be a "good" book to justify them doing some of the most vile, filthy and evil things to the most innocent, vulnerable and defenseless amongst us ... A Child!

Come to think of it, to hell with them and their bible ... And if there is a god, they've got a lot of explaining to do because I'll never understand why some all powerful entity puts children into such soul destroying situations then condemns them to hell for losing all hope, faith, trust and belief!

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((((katydid777)))) I'm so sorry you're struggling. "To honor your mother and father" is just a way to tell you to be grateful for the gift you have (Life). But if your parents have mistreated you this way, I don't think you have any obligation towards them. You did what you've had to do. Please, don't feel guilty about this. You're a good person.
I completely agree with you!
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Old Nov 29, 2018, 03:24 PM
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I understand your point, and the bible does say that, I just forgot. At my age 53, you tend to seek out all answers, and at this time in my life, I am trying to find the true religion. I don't know if I will ever find it, I don't know if the one I am studying now is the one, but all I can do is try, and try to be a good person, even when other people( not anyone here) haven't been good to me. I have always tried to treat people the way I want people to treat me, and when I don't do this, I feel guilty, even if the other person/s treat me badly. I guess this has a lot to do with self esteem.
Big hugs! I completely understand how you feel!
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Old Nov 29, 2018, 03:28 PM
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P.S. I will talk about this problem with my T. This very much bothers me!!!
I am not entirely sure exactly what you are asking what you need to do about this situation. I'm sorry I'm not trying to be obtuse but I will say this about your question.

Honoring your father and mother does not imply that you have to have feelings for them. I believe it does not mean that you have to deny what was done to you or act as if it was nothing but it does mean that anything to do with them you just do it with the same respect you would expect from others.

I hope that makes sense.
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Old Nov 29, 2018, 03:47 PM
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I can't do anything anymore bc they passed away 4 &6 years ago. I just have a problem that I don't feel anything. I see things on FB all the time about people's moms, and dads, and I can't even comment on them bc people wouldn't understand.


I completely understand. I reached the point where enough was enough. It took years to get to that point. I was tired of feeling guilty and worried over an abusive relationship that was never going to change and I walked away from it. It is what it is. People won’t understand something they’ve never been through. I suspect, though, behind a lot of those Facebook posts are some complicated situations that people don’t share.
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Old Nov 29, 2018, 04:37 PM
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I can understand you Katy, somewhat. Grew up in a strict christian home. Their behaviour didn't reflect what was being taught in church. More than confusing. Hurtful to a small child.

I'm so sorry for what you've been through.

I remember in our church, it went something like "honour your father and your mother, so that your days may be long in the land..."

I know that words can be twisted to different meanings. I believe it was first meant to mean "not to take the fact you are given a life from your parents lightly".

Well.. when you are shown the opposite of love and acceptance, and you still want to keep your faith and belief in this God, it seems very difficult.

I've allowed myself to be angry with God, to question him, to tell him how I really feel about this life. Why so many children, so many people, everywhere are suffering?

I don't have answers, I don't even understand that eventually everything will be justified. But all I know is I can do nothing but what I feel I need to do, and even there I fail. I still want my faith, I still want to believe, so I do. But it seems we are being tested too harshly at times.

I just wanted to say I feel bad for you, and I hope you feel better with all this Many hugs to you and prayers.
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