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Old Jan 08, 2019, 11:06 AM
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I give up and bow out of this thread. The OP hasn’t even been back.
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Old Jan 08, 2019, 11:16 AM
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Yes, we never know if an OP will eventually come back. Yet, it's also ok to have different view points too. Maybe the OP can see this in a different light and I do have to say it's nice for each to have your own fur baby too. It's nice to each have your own dog to cuddle with too instead of a dog leaning more towards one person than the other as that does happen a lot with one dog.
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Old Jan 08, 2019, 11:46 AM
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Also....why are we eliminating ALL possibilities as to the cause for his behavior.....diagnosed or undiagnosed if a condition exists it is NOT something else just because WE want to deny the possibility because it is undiagnosed. Most adults who were not diagnosed with ASD as children have a hard time getting a diagnosis as an adult. Id doesn't mean it 8s not something they have or that it diesn't cause problems in the lives of those they are married to or live with.

His mother a nurse would be more aware of the possibility than any of our denials that it's not. It doesn't justify behaviors but it explains what REALLY needs to be worked on if possible.
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Old Jan 08, 2019, 12:01 PM
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Yes, I agree eskie because sometimes people's behaviors are not as intentional as we might think they are.
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Old Jan 08, 2019, 12:36 PM
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Strange,for sure.Has your husband even explained his reasoning behind this?

I guess I may think a little different from others but my first thought was how sad.There has to be a story behind why he's doing this,something more going on besides him just being cruel and not wanting to share the dog with you.Like maybe he went through something in childhood that had to do with a dog and now as an adult he's determined he will have his own dog and nobody else is allowed to touch it.Or maybe he feels he needs this dog for love and to feel he has a purpose or something.

It doesn't sound like something worth throwing away a marriage over,it sounds like maybe he needs mental help.
I was thinking the same thing he might need to get some help.
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Old Jan 08, 2019, 12:46 PM
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I'm so sorry you're struggling, NataleeRose It does sound like a very weird behavior. How is the relationship going apart from this? Do you get along well with him? I think you seriously need to discuss this with him and ask him why is he doing this, if you haven't already. Perhaps you can try couple counselling, although the only one who needs it is him, really. If if continues to be like this, I think you may want to reconsider this relationship, especially if it's hurting you so much. I'm so sorry you have to deal with this
I'm sorry but he seem to controlling.
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This is definitely strange. And rude. Do you want to stay with this guy?
I feel like he is too controlling and you should leave
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Old Jan 08, 2019, 12:48 PM
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This is definitely strange. And rude. Do you want to stay with this guy?
This is just too strange. I think you should leave. Sound too controlling.
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Old Jan 08, 2019, 12:50 PM
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This is incredible controlling behavior. Is he controlling in other parts of your relationship?
I am wondering that myself. Or if this just the beginning of a controlling relationship that will get worst in the future
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Old Jan 08, 2019, 12:52 PM
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He says it's "mans best friend". the dog calms him. He has issues with calming down, he is super smart and his brain runs a mile a minute. It has been exhausting. He is my best friend....and outside of those super abnormal behavior, he is not abusive towards me. We have normal couple fights. He tends to run a bit jealous over others success, etc. However, we live a good life. The only issues that is unbearable is the dog. I have begged and pleaded that this change. His answer is that I get my own dog. I think that is absurd. I don't mind that the dog prefers him. Most dogs like one person more than the other...it is the game of keep away that drives me mad
This sound more autism speaking from my experience. I still think he need to get some help. I still feel like he is too controlling
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Old Jan 08, 2019, 12:54 PM
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in the past, but we live a quiet and remote life. I give him nothing to be jealous or controlling over.
You don't have to give a person a reason to be jealous and controlling. It doesn't sound like he will ever change.
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Old Jan 08, 2019, 12:56 PM
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Is he abusive with this dog at all?

If you "are' an animal lover and he suggested you getting your own dog, then get your own dog.


She is probably onto something with this suspicion and because she raised him she may have had challenges with him where if she read about children on the autism spectrum she realized he had many of the challenges described.
I agree. It is challenging to have an autism the family
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Old Jan 08, 2019, 03:42 PM
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Is he abusive with this dog at all?

If you "are' an animal lover and he suggested you getting your own dog, then get your own dog.


She is probably onto something with this suspicion and because she raised him she may have had challenges with him where if she read about children on the autism spectrum she realized he had many of the challenges described.
unfortunately, a two dog household is not acceptable. We would be booted from the property, we rent.
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Old Jan 08, 2019, 05:14 PM
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So he told you to get a second dog when second dog is not even allowed on the property. Jeez. Great. What kind of marriage he thinks it is? First discussed to get a dog together then got one and now doesn’t allow his wife to touch it and then tells her to get her own dog when it’s not even allowed and people find all kind of excuses for this nonsense behavior. Trust me it won’t get better. Not good. You can do better
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Old Jan 08, 2019, 07:03 PM
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unfortunately, a two dog household is not acceptable. We would be booted from the property, we rent.
Thanks for posting in your thread. It's hard to advise without more details. What you just shared is important, if he knows you are only allowed one dog and you had said you wanted to get a dog for both of you, then it sets this in a bit of a different light. I don't like to make quick judgments, especially when someone talks about a lengthy relationship that was pleasant and happy for them.
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Old Jan 08, 2019, 07:14 PM
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I think that it was a very bad sign that after discussing to get a dog together, he just went and got one for himself. Not a behavior acceptable in a healthy marriage regardless if buying a second dog is plausible or not.

Are you financially dependent on him? Unfortunately that’s often the reason for people staying in abusive marriages. How long have you been married? What do you intend to do? Abuse usually escalates. First he was controlling and jealous until you moved to be isolated. Then this dog. It won’t stop.
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Even if he is on the spectrum....you need to think whether YOU want to tolerate the behaviors you are experiencing for the rest of your life because usually the behaviors of someone on the spectrum don't/can't change because of how their brain is wired & from personal experience.....it doesn't get better but worse with age especially if they refuse to get a diagnosis & get any help to learn to better relate to others. Going to marriage therapy in my case was a waste of time & money. Though it was worth a try to know it didn't work.

Obviously if you are ok being treated this way then it is your choice. We can lose ourselves in other interests.....but the bottom line will always come back to how do you feel being treated the way you are in your relationship?
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Old Jan 09, 2019, 01:32 AM
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unfortunately, a two dog household is not acceptable. We would be booted from the property, we rent.
Hi NataleeRose. It's unfortunate that you couldn't each have a dog to love in your current home. Sorry to hear that. I know you said you'd love the opportunity to nurture some "fur babies."

Are you able to meet with a psychologist? Even if your hub is not interested in going, you could go for 1:1 therapy. I think support and insight from a professional therapist would be really valuable at this point to help you work through this issue with your husband. As you may already know, PC folks are only providing their personal opinions as opposed to professional advice or diagnosis etc. I think the professional route will be very useful to you at this point. Though hugs and kind regards are always available here Take good care of yourself. Peace to you and your hub
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Old Jan 09, 2019, 04:05 PM
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I have been thinking about your predicament. I do think your husband has some kind of challenge where he is controlling and possessive. I don't think you noticed it as much because he put you in his world and kept you near him like he is doing with this dog. You mentioned that you felt like "we are best friends" until you experienced this behavior of his with this dog.

He may be on the autism spectrum, however he may also have OCD too. From what you have shared he struggles with his sense of "control" and that tends to be a challenge with both the conditions I posted, though I am not an expert and am not diagnosing him. But you shared how he is really smart and his mind tends to go fast and he can struggle with that. It sounds like he struggles with sharing or if others challenge him in someway when it comes to business or perhaps a job etc, but this could be due to his need to feel a sense of control of his own world too. As eskie put it, "how his brain is wired" that can seem toxic and abusive and even narcissistic. It's quite possible that he is not intentionally trying to be abusive towards you, but, he needs to have full control of that dog to feel comfortable in HIS mind with it where he can control everything about how that dog is a part of HIS world. This is what makes me think of OCD because that's a challenge where the individual needs to have everything in a certain place to "feel" safe with whatever they have in their world. I read at one point that Howard Hughs had OCD. He was VERY controlling and eccentric and difficult to get along with due to his obsessive need to control and had a busy mind.

I think one of the reasons you can't find anything doing a Google search is you would have to search the kind of challenge that comes with how his brain is wired. Once you find that a lot of things will make sense to you. You are probably searching if men are possessive with dogs. Instead you need to maybe search OCD symptoms or the symptoms that present with someone with ASD.

My husband has ADHD and Dyslexia, I have learned about these challenges and when I read about them as I mentioned, a lot of things began to click as my husband would present me with these same behaviors as is described.

If you discover what makes him tick that is when you need to decide IF his challenges are something you can live with because he really won't change all that much and that is what you are noticing in this particular situation. His own mother has noticed he is different, mentioned what it might be, however he would have to see a professional in order to get diagnosed and possibly get help to manage his condition.

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Old Jan 09, 2019, 05:04 PM
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Open eyes makes good points but I’d caution against excusing people’s behaviors because of whatever diagnosis (real or perceived).

Sometimes bad behavior is just that. Bad behavior. I’ve met ton of people with ton of every disability or disorder imaginable (professionaly speaking but I prefer to remain anonymous) and ,no , having disorders or disabilities doesn’t make one a jerk. Sure certain disorders cause problems in relationships but generally speaking it doesn’t excuse bad behaviors.

My husband has all kind of disabilities but he is at no point never ever unkind or abusuve or a jerk.

Some people just aren’t nice. And some men are not nice to their own wives. Again speaking as a professional ifthis man does not have a formal diagnosis let’s refrain from diagnosing him.

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Old Jan 09, 2019, 05:57 PM
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My concern is if he is abusing or neglecting this dog.
My concern is that he is abusing and neglecting his wife.
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Old Jan 09, 2019, 06:06 PM
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My concern is that he is abusing and neglecting his wife.
Yup.

Yes it’s horrid if the dog is abused, but there is nothing in OP’s post even remotely hinting that this dog is mistreated. There are however very specific and direct descriptions of a husband mistreating his wife.
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Old Jan 09, 2019, 10:05 PM
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NataleeRose,do you ever get alone time with the dog?Does your husband work or leave the house,hang out with friends or anything and leave the dog with you? If so,those could be your times to enjoy it.My husband has an emotional support dog and I enjoy the time I get with it but when he's home I'm ok with it being "his" dog.

I understand that you are extremely upset over it,is it that you really love the dog that much and so badly want to spend time with it or is it that he doesn't want you to?If your marriage is as good as you are saying it is and there's no other problems going on maybe you need to just let this one go and let the guy have and enjoy his dog,especially if it helps calm him.
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Old Jan 10, 2019, 11:57 AM
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I was thinking along these lines too. Yet, the OP has expressed how this problem has really been deeply upsetting her too. I totally understand how other posters see this situation as abusive and toxic. Most feel that not allowing her to love this dog too is cruel and abusive. Now that the OP has shared that because of where they live she can't get a dog of her own makes it even harder for her as it seems she really wants a dog to love and cuddle with as she doesn't have any children.

Question for the OP, can you look for a place you can live that allows more than one dog?
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Old Jan 10, 2019, 12:52 PM
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I'm curious what's going on in the backgrond,the other side of the story and what's really behind it.

I am wondering how the fights start and play out.If it's really just a battle for control betwen both parties It almost sounds childish tbh.Usually fights like that have nothing to do with what's going on,kind of like fighting over not putting the lid on the toothpaste or putting toilet paper rolls on wrong.It"s never really about those things

IDK.But I'm glad it's a dog and not a child.
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