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Old May 21, 2020, 08:47 AM
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He just got really exasperated with me over this issue. I am upset too. I think I'd rather not talk details about our sex life right now..... I am really upset.
You don’t have to share more than you feel like and this topic doesn’t need to brought up at all. We are here for you. Is it sunny out? Go for a walk when you done with work or now, take a break. This pandemics getting to everyone. It’s getting harder and harder to live this way. Hang in there. Hugs
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Old May 21, 2020, 09:56 AM
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You don’t have to share more than you feel like and this topic doesn’t need to brought up at all. We are here for you. Is it sunny out? Go for a walk when you done with work or now, take a break. This pandemics getting to everyone. It’s getting harder and harder to live this way. Hang in there. Hugs
Thank you! It IS sunny out. I must get outside!!!!!!

Yes, this way of living is no life at all. I am sure it's gotten to everyone.
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Old May 21, 2020, 10:02 AM
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If I have to have another zoom or google meets meeting, I’ll scream 😩
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Old May 21, 2020, 10:12 AM
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If I have to have another zoom or google meets meeting, I’ll scream 😩
Oh I know!!!! This is all making me feel not mentally well right now.
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Old May 21, 2020, 12:44 PM
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Im sorry! Your situation is very tough! You are very strong. Sometimes when I feel all doom and gloom I listen to some comedy and try to laugh outloud. It helps elevate me for a short while.
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Old May 21, 2020, 10:13 PM
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I'm so very sorry you're going through this! You have a lot of support here.
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Old May 22, 2020, 05:25 AM
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Im sorry! Your situation is very tough! You are very strong. Sometimes when I feel all doom and gloom I listen to some comedy and try to laugh outloud. It helps elevate me for a short while.
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Old May 22, 2020, 05:25 AM
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I'm so very sorry you're going through this! You have a lot of support here.
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Old May 22, 2020, 06:51 AM
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I feel.... I just don't even know anymore.

I have one foot out the door in my marriage right now. I told my therapist yesterday that if the lack of sex continues over the next month, that I am leaving him. I am fed up with everything -- in all directions -- and my patience is wearing thin.

It just seems if it's not one stressful situation we're facing, it's another. Now his elderly parents are in trouble and haven't been able to pay their rent for the last two weeks. So my husband may need to help them financially, even though we do not have a lot of extra funds right now. HIs father was giving the hospital staff a lot of trouble, he refused to go to rehab and the nursing home where they are living are basically fed up with him.

His father has been in and out of the hospital for the last year with some new emergency health situation. This causes a LOT of stress for my husband, and subsequently, for me.

There are some days where I wonder if I would be better off and happier single. This morning is one such day.

Since we've been married, it's been one life stressor after another, and I am sick of it all. HIs job stress, then my job stress, his father's health, his parents' finances, our own finances, then the fights we've had and the issues we face in our marriage. It's just too much for me. Today, I really felt like I should divorce him. That little voice inside me was screaming at me: get out & get out now!

I also have an escapist mentality, so I really don't know what to do except muddle through these feelings until I know for certain one way or another.

If we were just dating, it would be soooo much easier. But it's a marriage and a commitment, it's a life we share together, it's a home we created together -- or really, I decorated it and bought most everything, but we share it.

I guess I am ultimately torn. That's how I feel.
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Old May 22, 2020, 08:44 AM
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I think you can’t escape huge external stressors especially when we get older.

My husband and I just realized recently that since we’ve met, there was one serious illness or death or other form of disaster in both sides of the family one after another non stop. Plus high stress jobs for both, his is also dangerous. And now when we thought it will quiet down, this pandemics hit. It’s like non stop. So I hear you on that.

But I think stressors from outside of your marriage can’t be avoided because we have no control over it, you can’t escape stressors, you’ll have it in every relationship because they are external, it’s just how you handle it together matters. Internal stressors like fights is a different story. Those you have control over

I hope situation with his parents gets under control. I understand. I am freaking out with my dad getting older and refusing to downsize, he insists on living alone in a large house. At some point it will be impossible. He is so stubborn too.
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Old May 22, 2020, 09:04 AM
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These two are good articles. And I think they mention external and internal stressors as well as gives you pointers how to deal with external stressor for yourself and for your partner

Is Stress Killing Your Relationship? Why You're Not Alone | Psychology Today

10 Ways to Fight Stress Spillover in Your Relationship | Psychology Today
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Old May 22, 2020, 10:57 AM
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@divine1966, thanks so much for those 2 articles, they're very helpful!!!! And thanks as well for your other post.....

I have a tendency to be rather idealistic. I know I need to keep that in mind. I have this vision of how things should be, and it's probably unrealistic. Life happens, stress happens... as you pointed out, external stressors cannot be helped or controlled. But yeah, I agree that internal stressors can be controlled and minimized. That's what we're working on.

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Old May 22, 2020, 12:16 PM
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You’ve complained about the lack of sex.

Both those articles didn’t mention having sex as a destressor. I find that interesting and disappointing.

I had an idealistic thought that sex was going to be a comfort and a pleasure that us two would share. I thought it would be a release against external stressors. Am I the only one who thought this?

The lack of sex, often enough, in a pleasing affectionate way that pleased me was the biggest problem in my marriage (still is!)

When we married he was a much younger man, but he always shut down from a lot of external stress that we always had and nothing ever changed about that way with us.

When I married, I expected to be in it for the long haul and all the stresses of life to contend with together. But dysfunctional sex was not at all what I wanted; but it was what I got, and I haven’t handled it well at all.

In weighing if you should stay in your marriage. It’s important to think about what he does for you. Financially? Socially? Spiritually? Great company? Etc... That’s how I’d look at it at this age and without kids. Are you doing all the heavy lifting?
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Old May 22, 2020, 12:52 PM
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Tisha those articles were discussing mainly external stresses like work or other family members etc Have Hope’s last post was about how external stressors effects their relationship mot as much about sex

Sex is important. But sometimes it’s not as much as lack of sex causes problems as it’s symptom of a problem.

I agree with you answering that question: what does this relationship give you. I always ask myself if I am better off in a relationship or I am better off alone (not money wise)
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Old May 22, 2020, 01:25 PM
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Yea, I am weighing and evaluating everything right now, not just the sex, but the positives and negatives. Our sex, when we have it, is amazing. So that's not a problem. Oh, I just don't even know. As my uncle told me once, "sometimes you just have to muddle through". And that's what I am doing, as nothing is clear except my boundaries and limits.
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These two are good articles. And I think they mention external and internal stressors as well as gives you pointers how to deal with external stressor for yourself and for your partner

Is Stress Killing Your Relationship? Why You're Not Alone | Psychology Today

10 Ways to Fight Stress Spillover in Your Relationship | Psychology Today

I really liked this quote from your first link:

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"Likewise, a couple who is typically affectionate may have little affection when stressed and as a result come to believe that they have an issue with affection and time together, rather than recognizing it is just the stress. These misperceptions can create dissatisfaction with otherwise healthy relationships and lead people to try to solve the wrong problem (communication, affection) rather than identifying and solving the actual source of the issue (stress)."
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I don’t want to project my issues here. This thing with sex, stress, and control has been the bane of my existence. My thinking may be faulty concerning intimacy and that’s why I can’t make it work.

The outside stressors we had were many and intense. There were also many joys. That’s the “for better or worse” part.
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Old May 22, 2020, 03:56 PM
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I really liked this quote from your first link:
I really like that too. Though everyone handles stress differently. My husband withdraws, and I want to talk through my stress, so there's that conflict in our styles.
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Old May 22, 2020, 03:57 PM
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I don’t want to project my issues here. This thing with sex, stress, and control has been the bane of my existence. My thinking may be faulty concerning intimacy and that’s why I can’t make it work.

The outside stressors we had were many and intense. There were also many joys. That’s the “for better or worse” part.
I'm not of the mindset "for better or for worse" if my mental health is going downhill and if I am not happy. It's coming down to that part of things for me right now.
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I really like that too. Though everyone handles stress differently. My husband withdraws, and I want to talk through my stress, so there's that conflict in our styles.
Ya, I can see how that would create conflict. I do both, depending on the circumstances.
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Old May 22, 2020, 06:59 PM
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The way I personally see “for better or for worse” is if for example something happened to my husband and he became wheel chair bound or otherwise incapacitated I’d not abandon him.

Other people understand it as if my husband became a liar or treated me badly or decided to live off me and take advantage of me, well it is not included in my “for better or worse”.

And if people stay in abusive marriage because of their vows, then their vows must have included “I promise to endure abuse”. My vows sure didn’t include that.

I think it depends how one understands “ for better or worse”
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And if people stay in abusive marriage because of their vows, then their vows must have included “I promise to endure abuse”. My vows sure didn’t include that.
YES!! I totally agree with this ^^^
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We just had a big fight. I don’t want to get into details just now but he left for the store. He says you don’t want me anymore. You’ve made that clear over the last three days.
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Old May 23, 2020, 03:34 AM
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I couldn't sleep. My marriage is seriously on the rocks. We slept apart tonight. I don't know how this can be fixed without outside help.
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Old May 23, 2020, 06:17 AM
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I couldn't sleep. My marriage is seriously on the rocks. We slept apart tonight. I don't know how this can be fixed without outside help.
See if you can get online counseling session for a couple.
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