[Christopher1990]

The older I get, the more I seem to think about death, and what happens after we leave this earth. I truly believe that we live on through different forms and evolve. I'm currently reading a book on Near Death Experiences and it has really seemed to open my eyes. Science can't explain this phenomena. I consider myself spiritual, more than religious. I do believe in 1 God. All we can do is try and achieve happiness and love. It just scares me, knowing that one day I will lose the family I am closest to someday.

Question is, how do you overcome fear of death?

[(JD)]

Yes, aging does that.

I thank God "all the time" and at least daily for His love and salvation. I actually don't fear death because of my belief in God, trusting in Him... but I also have that NDE type of assurances... having nearly died many times... one particular time... an OBE that wasn't "just dissociation" ... the overwhelming energy of love, engulfing me, I cannot describe it! I know this is what is awaiting me when this body gives out.

Also... think of it this way, as you say you believe in God...

the mind does not die. The essence of who we are does not die...it is only the physical body that stops living...so there is no "death" experience for us, the one dying... it's just the next second we are consciously in the presence of God...

Science has proven that we cannot destroy energy...it just changes form.
Make your faith sure to remove the fear.

[Slamjammer]

I have also read a great deal about NDE's, which served to whet my curiosity about spiritual matters. A book by Eben Alexander, provided ample evidence ( to me anyway ) that consciousness is not just a product of brain function, but that a part of us is eternal. I highly recommend the work of Dr Michael Newton, starting with his book "Journey of Souls", based on hundreds of sessions with his patients under hypnosis, and which describes in great detail our souls journey after death, into the afterlife, with our soul mates and guides, appearing before our council, selecting a new physical life, preparing for departure, and finally rebirth. This book, and a follow up entitled "Destiny of Souls" will ABSOLUTELY change your life and your outlook.

[Serzen]

My recommendation: read Autobiography of a Yogi and The Tibetan Book of The Dead.

[Serzen]

Originally Posted by Slamjammer

I have also read a great deal about NDE's, which served to whet my curiosity about spiritual matters. A book by Eben Alexander, provided ample evidence ( to me anyway ) that consciousness is not just a product of brain function, but that a part of us is eternal. I highly recommend the work of Dr Michael Newton, starting with his book "Journey of Souls", based on hundreds of sessions with his patients under hypnosis, and which describes in great detail our souls journey after death, into the afterlife, with our soul mates and guides, appearing before our council, selecting a new physical life, preparing for departure, and finally rebirth. This book, and a follow up entitled "Destiny of Souls" will ABSOLUTELY change your life and your outlook.

Thanks, I started reading Journey of Souls right away.

It has already caught my attention.

[Christopher1990]

Thanks for your kind responses. I will definitely look into your recomendations. Byt the way the book Im reading now is Consciousness Beyond Life by Dr. Pim van

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[Beachlover527]

Last night I had a dream I drowned in a car. Of course since it was a dream I didn't actually die, but it sure as hell felt real!
By the time the car I was sped off the ramp of a freeway into the ocean, I knew I was dying and accepted it. I literally couldn't do anything about it.

I was kind of excited because I can finally see if there is an afterlife or if nothing happens. I waited for my consciousness to stop (but of course since it was a dream) it didn't. Then I quickly woke up and found myself in my bed, freaked out.

The point is- I realized that death is natural. The time will come when it is your time. And so a person should learn to live in the present, enjoy their life, live their life how they would every day. And when death comes, it'll come.

There is no need to fear something that we will not really have control over once it happens.

I think the reason I had this dream was because I too thought about death a lot. I used to fear that I need to fit all my aspirations and be a world hero before I die and it would just cause large amounts of anxiety and pressure.
Now I know that it'll happen when it happens. And I'm just going to live my life in the present. Just like any ordinary day.
Being at peace with death.

[*Laurie*]

Originally Posted by Serzen

My recommendation: read Autobiography of a Yogi and The Tibetan Book of The Dead.

Thank you, Serzen. Excellent recommendations that I truly need to revisit. When I read the above in my late teens I did not have the fear of death I have now, in my early-50's.

Just ordered Autobiography of a Yogi from my library.

[Serzen]

Originally Posted by Beachlover527

Last night I had a dream I drowned in a car. Of course since it was a dream I didn't actually die, but it sure as hell felt real!
By the time the car I was sped off the ramp of a freeway into the ocean, I knew I was dying and accepted it. I literally couldn't do anything about it.

I was kind of excited because I can finally see if there is an afterlife or if nothing happens. I waited for my consciousness to stop (but of course since it was a dream) it didn't. Then I quickly woke up and found myself in my bed, freaked out.

The point is- I realized that death is natural. The time will come when it is your time. And so a person should learn to live in the present, enjoy their life, live their life how they would every day. And when death comes, it'll come.

There is no need to fear something that we will not really have control over once it happens.

I think the reason I had this dream was because I too thought about death a lot. I used to fear that I need to fit all my aspirations and be a world hero before I die and it would just cause large amounts of anxiety and pressure.
Now I know that it'll happen when it happens. And I'm just going to live my life in the present. Just like any ordinary day.
Being at peace with death.

According to Buddhism we are being reborn at every instant, with every thought. So I guess you had to die in order to be born again and learn that important lesson.

I have died many times in my dreams. With every death I feel I learn many things. Who knows, maybe it really happens.

[Serzen]

Originally Posted by LauraBeth

Thank you, Serzen. Excellent recommendations that I truly need to revisit. When I read the above in my late teens I did not have the fear of death I have now, in my early-50's.

Just ordered Autobiography of a Yogi from my library.

I am glad I could help.

I am reading Journey of Souls, which was mentioned in a comment above. It's blowing my mind.

Hugs-

I have not read any of the books or anything on death. I have been told by doctors twice in a 6 year period, I should have been dead, it is not possible that you could walk into the emergency room. Well, I am still here to prove it......

I do not fear death and at times, I would welcome it. When you are a prisoner in your own body that does not work right anymore. It is a way of life I am really starting to detest and I am looking forward to my release. I also do not believe in God. If there was one, why am trapped in my house?? I am going to sign DNR papers with my doctor next month, so they can follow my wishes. I have had enough operations and just do not want to go through any more...

I don`t know if this will help you any, it is just my feelings on the matter and I do not fear death at all.

[(JD)]

I think it's important not to blame God for things that aren't His doing.
I truly don't understand...really... why any one would run away from a loving God... which mine is... (maybe if you know of a hateful god, then yes, run?)

Just because I believe in an "after physical body life" doesn't mean I believe it is all good after we leave this body... I think that is what one needs to ponder, not the death or dying itself, but what of your energy--who you are---once you leave your physical body. There are just as many dark stories of those who came back from dying who had been in what they call "hell" and torment... and who turned to the God of love.... be sure to read those writings also.

I still say it's a choice...what occurs to you once this body dies... your choice...but you have to make it before this body goes.

[possum220]

Science has tried to pin NDE's on the rush of endorphins released into our brains when our body is shutting down. I am kind of fence sitting about this one.

My mum told me what she was seeing as she began to pass away. It is hard to believe that what she saw was a result of endorphins........

[Slamjammer]

Originally Posted by igiveupinohio

I have not read any of the books or anything on death. I have been told by doctors twice in a 6 year period, I should have been dead, it is not possible that you could walk into the emergency room. Well, I am still here to prove it......

I do not fear death and at times, I would welcome it. When you are a prisoner in your own body that does not work right anymore. It is a way of life I am really starting to detest and I am looking forward to my release. I also do not believe in God. If there was one, why am trapped in my house?? I am going to sign DNR papers with my doctor next month, so they can follow my wishes. I have had enough operations and just do not want to go through any more...

I don`t know if this will help you any, it is just my feelings on the matter and I do not fear death at all.

Why? What have you learned as a result of this experience, that you would not have learned otherwise?

[Werewoman]

I don't fear death simply because I am made of stardust, and when I die, I will decompose and return to stardust, perhaps to become something else.

I'd like to be a planet, I think. I don't know, it just seems like an interesting thing to do.

[Firesign 90]

I believe we definitely go on, energy cannot be killed, it evolves into another body or just stays as pure energy. I think we decide on our physical births before we enter the womb.
Recently, I have become much more accepting of my own mortality. I really had to confront some old beliefs and thinking patterns to accept that I will die....and I am ok with it because it is nothing to be feared.

[Shaly78]

Chris, is your fear reinforced by experiences?

I have some experiences like that. I won't share those, but what I will say is I wonder a lot about heaven, my funeral, not being here, and really messed up thoughts about what is like to have no breathe no heart just being dead in general....I have to quickly bring myself out of that place though.....These are rare thoughts.... .I'm a little weird in that way

[where_to_begin]

I suffer from fear of death.

When I started college 4 years seemed like an impossibly long time. But it was over quickly.

The same thing happened with the decades of my life passing. Now it doesn't seem hard to imagine another 2 decades passing which will put me in my 70s.

Another aspect is seeing many relatives grow old and die, including my parents.

I am having more health problems as I get older.

A few months ago I came up with the profound thought that every old person I see in wheelchair or with a walker was once my age.

Not believing in an afterlife doesn't make things any better.

I try not to think of all this, because when I do it is existentially depressing.

At one time 20 years seemed like an impossibly long time. But I have lived through more than two 20 year periods, I realize how quickly it can pass. And that scares me when I think about it.

[avlady]

where to begin i hear ya!!!I used to think i would die in my 20s and i'm 54 now. it went so fast. i don't want to be the lady in the wheelchair, but i see myself as that. my mom is actually in a wheelchair after breaking her foot and has been disabled for over a year now. she's 78 now. my dad is 77. i worry about their deaths. i even had a sister who hung herself, at age 16. i worry about althismers desease too. oh well i suppose there is nothing that can be done but to accept it.

[avlady]

just another thing, i had a seizure in a hospital stay and the nurses and doctors told me i was prounonced dead after it.

[Mr.Arch-Vile]

I don't believe in a god per say, but a force within us. Think obi Wan with the statement he makes right before Darth Vader strikes him down.

I've been going around the forums saying we are star stuff. And we are, we are like living clay forms of humans clawing out from the depths from the earth because existence must EXIST!

We are golems crying out to the stars Why have we been forsaken to this planet earth. With out realizing it is only a place of temporary stay for some.

I believe the human form is the perfected form of evolution due to our technological advancements. I believe when a human being dies, not from suicide, that they awaken from a terrible nightmare only to realize they have passed into another parallel universe born again from the same mother but at a different time in space. If you kill yourself you are stuck in this life until you get it right and over come your need for self destruction. You will always have a freewill and that is do you want to let go and advance into the next realm of human existance.

Tell me something, Do you ever recall what it was like to be in a womb? Or are we the dream before birth right now?

suggested reading and watching:
Tibetan book of the dead

enter the void

star wars

bhagada Gita

General buddism and Hinduism stuff, mixed in with the mysteries of Christianity

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[avlady]

i know this sounds unbelieveable, but i sometimes think i remember being in the womb. just a thought here

Originally Posted by Slamjammer

Why? What have you learned as a result of this experience, that you would not have learned otherwise?

There is no God plain and simple and you are not going to make me believe there is.

Why what? Looks pretty self explanatory myself.

[Mr.Arch-Vile]

God is imagenary, imagination exists in the mind, surely your mind is real, is not?

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[Slamjammer]

Originally Posted by igiveupinohio

There is no God plain and simple and you are not going to make me believe there is.

Why what? Looks pretty self explanatory myself.

Sorry, I would not try to convince you of anything. I only asked what is the basis of your beliefs, and to think about what you are learning, though the process may be painful.