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Old Aug 07, 2013, 08:23 PM
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My son is having trouble swallowing. I'm worried.
That is not good....he's on a very low dose of meds though right? Still time to call the pdoc just in case.



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Old Aug 07, 2013, 08:31 PM
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That is not good....he's on a very low dose of meds though right? Still time to call the pdoc just in case.



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I told him to call his pdoc. He didn't seem to think it was necessary.

Yes, he's on a low dose. And they even lowered it further less than a week ago. This couldn't be some sort of withdrawal symptom, could it?
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Old Aug 07, 2013, 08:32 PM
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Reading yet another book this one is called Agnes's jacket which is based upon a jacket from an early asylum that was sewn with words because patients were not given pens and were not allowed to write to the outside world. I'm 15% in and it's mostly about individual stories of people that the author has met through the hearing voices network. She is a psychologist and basically an outsider who is interested in the stories. It's written very sensitively and questions the biological model somewhat. This one explains very well what the voices are like as well as coping mechanisms. I like it.
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Old Aug 07, 2013, 08:37 PM
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I told him to call his pdoc. He didn't seem to think it was necessary.

Yes, he's on a low dose. And they even lowered it further less than a week ago. This couldn't be some sort of withdrawal symptom, could it?
I don't want to freak you out but TD usually starts in the mouth and tongue. I don't know much about it and how swallowing is impacted but it can be permanent even after getting off the meds so it's serious. Make sure he calls the pdoc if you can.
It's less likely on a low dose though so don't worry too much. It could be unrelated.
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Old Aug 07, 2013, 08:42 PM
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I don't want to freak you out but TD usually starts in the mouth and tongue. I don't know much about it and how swallowing is impacted but it can be permanent even after getting off the meds so it's serious. Make sure he calls the pdoc if you can.
It's less likely on a low dose though so don't worry too much. It could be unrelated.
I was freaked out as soon as he texted that he was having trouble swallowing. I don't want to freak him out, though.

He said it happened a few days ago, then again tonight.
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Old Aug 07, 2013, 08:49 PM
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I was freaked out as soon as he texted that he was having trouble swallowing. I don't want to freak him out, though.

He said it happened a few days ago, then again tonight.
I wish I knew more how to help, but yeah try to convince him to touch base with the pdoc, if he doesn't respond to gentle you might have to freak him out for his own safety.
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Old Aug 07, 2013, 09:28 PM
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I told him it was a serious side effect, and he needs to tell the pdoc. He'd convinced himself it was some kind of anxiety reaction to remembering some guy telling him he was eating too fast a couple of years ago.

It's just so weird it would happen right after the medication was lowered. I mean it must have been just a few days he dropped the dose after that he suddenly gets this scary side effect. Wouldn't the doctor probably cut the dose to deal with the problem?
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Old Aug 07, 2013, 10:01 PM
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Sometimes Psychotic your CBT therapist's suggestion reminded me of the Facial Feedback Hypothesis. Proponents of this theory believe facial muscles send signals to the brain and that these signals help us recognize emotions. This means frowns, smiles and so on contribute to the emotions we feel. Apparently if a person contracts their facial muscles to mimic an emotion such as happiness it can help them feel that actual emotion.

The 10 laughing session might be based on that hypothesis.
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Old Aug 07, 2013, 10:10 PM
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I told him it was a serious side effect, and he needs to tell the pdoc. He'd convinced himself it was some kind of anxiety reaction to remembering some guy telling him he was eating too fast a couple of years ago.

It's just so weird it would happen right after the medication was lowered. I mean it must have been just a few days he dropped the dose after that he suddenly gets this scary side effect. Wouldn't the doctor probably cut the dose to deal with the problem?

My understanding is that these serious side effects are one of the few times they do a rapid withdrawl of meds yes. But one of the things I've heard of is that at least with TD a higher dose of meds can temporarily mask the symptoms so decreasing the dose would make it show up. I actually had involuntary hand movements right after they did a rapid withdrawl of seroquel....which is indicative of TD but it went away within a week. So I'm sure he'll be OK since you caught it early.
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Old Aug 07, 2013, 10:12 PM
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Sometimes Psychotic your CBT therapist's suggestion reminded me of the Facial Feedback Hypothesis. Proponents of this theory believe facial muscles send signals to the brain and that these signals help us recognize emotions. This means frowns, smiles and so on contribute to the emotions we feel. Apparently if a person contracts their facial muscles to mimic an emotion such as happiness it can help them feel that actual emotion.

The 10 laughing session might be based on that hypothesis.
Yeah I think it was based on that...she had all sorts of fun tricks like that. I wish I still had her as a T but it was only meant to be temporary since it was part of a research study.
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Old Aug 07, 2013, 10:14 PM
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Hope you're feeling better, didgee. Or at least made it through your class.
Thanks. I made it through my class okay. We talked about the treatment of psychological disorders.

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The little pointed one was probably Psathyrella candolleana or Conocybe apala. The large flat top might have been a very mature Agaricus.

Did you ever check the species list I posted?

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Yeah I think it was based on that...she had all sorts of fun tricks like that. I wish I still had her as a T but it was only meant to be temporary since it was part of a research study.
What else did she suggest?
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Old Aug 07, 2013, 10:27 PM
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What else did she suggest?
I think I've put this on here before but if you feel bad you should do self care. To do this you combine several of your favorite activities. Let say I like going to the zoo to take pictures of the animals. Add to that my favorite tunes on the iPod and something special like cotton candy. Basically pamper yourself, combine at least three positive things. So for you mushroom hunt with camera, bring an iPod or equivalent and then stop of for some chocolate truffles halfway through the walk or something like that. Things that you really love.

She also had lots of coping mechanisms for voices but there were like hundreds one day I will start a thread typing them out. We also went through how to breath correctly how yoga can help, that sort of thing. Then we charted the voices to see what the probability was that they were voices like a pie chart of other possibilities. We did a timeline of my stressors prior to my first episode so I could understand how I overloaded myself at work. I think we spent two sessions on that timeline because it was so much stuff. Anyway I'm sure there was more but this is what comes to mind right now.
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Old Aug 07, 2013, 10:43 PM
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Reading yet another book this one is called Agnes's jacket which is based upon a jacket from an early asylum that was sewn with words because patients were not given pens and were not allowed to write to the outside world. I'm 15% in and it's mostly about individual stories of people that the author has met through the hearing voices network. She is a psychologist and basically an outsider who is interested in the stories. It's written very sensitively and questions the biological model somewhat. This one explains very well what the voices are like as well as coping mechanisms. I like it.
Sounds very interesting! I'll have to check it out!
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Old Aug 07, 2013, 10:51 PM
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The little pointed one was probably Psathyrella candolleana or Conocybe apala. The large flat top might have been a very mature Agaricus.
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Yes. I couldn't decide which of the ones you'd listed was it - between bad photos on the Internet and my faulty memory. But it was definitely agaricus.
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I uploaded a picture of our fat cat Louie! Isn't he cute!

Looks like his pic is at post #289. Sorry I was doing it with the Tapatalk app & I guess I did something wrong. I just put that app on my cell. Trying to get used to it.

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I think I've put this on here before but if you feel bad you should do self care. To do this you combine several of your favorite activities. Let say I like going to the zoo to take pictures of the animals. Add to that my favorite tunes on the iPod and something special like cotton candy. Basically pamper yourself, combine at least three positive things. So for you mushroom hunt with camera, bring an iPod or equivalent and then stop of for some chocolate truffles halfway through the walk or something like that. Things that you really love.
I will definitely try this.

I recently started going to a coffee shop immediately after my psych appointments. It has excellent date squares that always make me feel better.
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I find that holding Daisy, Louie, or Cinnabon really helps calm my nerves. Just loving on them and receiving their love back really gets me through a lot of days!
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