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Old Jan 11, 2014, 06:14 PM
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kureha,
olanzapine ....
How long have you been taking it? Usually takes 2 weeks to get any therapeutic effects .... I should know....
that's a trick with these meds they show more delusions in the 1st week then will get better....
and I got more suicidal in The first week of taking it but after that it was a breeze!
the love of my life has become mundane.....
PLUS there's no ****ing parking.....
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Old Jan 13, 2014, 10:27 AM
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I'm not anti meds and I don't think I'm treatment resistant, just what is happening is true.

I prefer abilify though, but been taking olanzapind for about 2 weeks.

The nurse said they aren't going to change my "beliefs" but just reduce my anxiety and stress.

The extra help is having someone come outside with me so I can talk it through with some one I get anxious.
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Old Jan 13, 2014, 11:33 AM
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come outside with you?

hm
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Old Jan 15, 2014, 06:45 PM
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havnt heard from you KUREHA.
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Old Jan 15, 2014, 06:50 PM
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same here kureha
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Old Jan 16, 2014, 01:18 AM
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The Dr came even though I cancelled - she took me off abilify, well I took myself off, but she has now and what a load of sucking **** she put me on olanzapine.
Abilify is ****ing pure as snow and now I'm on side effects medication and I can't go back on abilify

It sucks
You know you can always get a new doctor. You do pay them you know. Personally I won't tolerate a doctor who doesn't listen to my input. Just buy some Abilify off the internet and send her the bottle of olanzapine with your fired written on it.
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Old Jan 16, 2014, 10:07 AM
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Been so tired to come on.

Tried to stop my medication said I'd get sectioned if I stop.

I can't change Drs, because I'm still seeing the crisis team and they are NHS and so is my proper Dr.
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Old Jan 16, 2014, 10:27 AM
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im so sorry kureha. i know medication is hard but please dont get sectioned because that will be way worse. WAY WORSE. believe me.
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Old Jan 16, 2014, 10:32 AM
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I agree with newtus. You really don't want to get sectioned.

Please be safe.
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Old Jan 16, 2014, 10:39 AM
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I also agree with Newtus, you don't want to get sectioned. I know it's hard, but please try to stay on the meds for now.
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Old Jan 16, 2014, 02:49 PM
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I've been sectioned before, it sucks.
The meds suck though, think they are just giving me sleeping pills.
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Old Jan 16, 2014, 02:53 PM
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well your lucky thats all they give you. so no antipsychotics?

or idk if your LUCKY but if your worried about side effects like i am you are lucky.

please dont be sectioned.
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Old Jan 16, 2014, 07:29 PM
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Been so tired to come on.

Tried to stop my medication said I'd get sectioned if I stop.

I can't change Drs, because I'm still seeing the crisis team and they are NHS and so is my proper Dr.
I'm not sure where you are, but here in the United States the only person who can tell you what to do is a judge. No one can force you into treatment unless a judge has authorized it, this is the case for practically everywhere in the world. Has a judge mandated treatment? If not, you don't have to put up with harmful drugs being forced on you by a doctor who won't listen.

You're giving them control over you. Threats of sectioning are merely threats, your not sectioned until your sectioned. If you're sectioned, you'll have the opportunity to explain to the judge that you want treatment, but this doctor is sexually harassing you. You tell him you've asked for another doctor and for less tranquilizing drugs, but he refuses because you think he is trying to take advantage of you sexually.

Go tell this doctor where he can stick his bottle of olanzapine. I seriously can't tolerate doctors like this, they deserve to loose their license for this type of patient care. I had a doctor like this once, the arrogant bastard almost killed me when I was involuntarily committed by forcing me onto a medication I was allergic too. I told them I was having an allergic response. So instead of listening to me he increases the dosage. I took it, and shortly thereafter they had to call for a crash cart because I was suffocating on the floor unable to breathe. Not only does not listening create dangerous situations like this, it's also incredibly disrespectful. There is no excuse for bedside manor such as this.
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Old Jan 17, 2014, 04:14 PM
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They say its olanzapine, I think it's sleeping pills, but I feel really weird today.

I'm in the UK, they would section me for that, it's happening before.
I don't want to be in the hospital for months.
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Old Jan 17, 2014, 04:16 PM
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you really dont want to be.

people tell me here the harder i fight the harder they come down on you. which may be whats partially happening to you. except i was fighting for my quality of life im not trying to be noncompliant.

try not be noncompliant.

olanzapine is an antipsychotic to get rid of your paranoid thoughhts
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Old Jan 17, 2014, 10:09 PM
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I agree with newtus. You really don't want to get sectioned.

Please be safe.
First off, I totally love your screen name! I think she should stand up for herself, even if it means getting sectioned.

Label me with oppositional defiant disorder if you want, but I don't back down from bullies and I don't bargain with terrorist doctors. If someone takes on me they'll have an INTJ with a 150 IQ to contend with.
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Old Jan 17, 2014, 10:10 PM
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im an INTJ too mixed with a little INTP

philosopher AND scientist i like to say sometimes
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Old Jan 17, 2014, 10:50 PM
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First off, I totally love your screen name! I think she should stand up for herself, even if it means getting sectioned.

Label me with oppositional defiant disorder if you want, but I don't back down from bullies and I don't bargain with terrorist doctors. If someone takes on me they'll have an INTJ with a 150 IQ to contend with.
I said that because from what I know, being sectioned totally blows. I'm an INTJ too.
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Old Jan 17, 2014, 11:16 PM
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im an INTJ too mixed with a little INTP

philosopher AND scientist i like to say sometimes
Damn !!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old Jan 17, 2014, 11:17 PM
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I said that because from what I know, being sectioned totally blows. I'm an INTJ too.
Damn !!!!!!!!!!!!

Here is the best INTJ overview I've ever seen...
. I wonder if schizophrenia and this personality type have a correlation, as the odds of randomly finding three schizophrenic on the same forum thread all with INTJ personalities is mind blowing. INTJ has a prevalence of only about 3%, and schizophrenia has a prevalence of less than 1%.

I totally want to do a MBTI personality type poll.

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Old Jan 18, 2014, 05:42 AM
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First off, I totally love your screen name! I think she should stand up for herself, even if it means getting sectioned.

Label me with oppositional defiant disorder if you want, but I don't back down from bullies and I don't bargain with terrorist doctors. If someone takes on me they'll have an INTJ with a 150 IQ to contend with.
I too think that this young lady should avoid being sectioned. But if she was sectioned would it be the end of the world. I don't know. I read her posts and from my perspective it seems like she's wasting her life. Kureha is a member since 2008, that's 6 - 7 years and she reads like someone who is just post her first psychotic break. unless she takes a therapeutic dose of something she can tolerate , and toleration takes time and effort , this it looks like , will continue.

And on your comment on iq , I know there is a narrative that psychosis and madness can result from genius. But if you look at what happens its something different. Poor iq and poor cognitive functioning and decline is what we see in sz expression in the vast majority of cases and not genius. And not only is this at the active expression stage . It is a precursor and predictor for people at risk.

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Old Jan 18, 2014, 11:17 AM
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And on your comment on iq , I know there is a narrative that psychosis and madness can result from genius. But if you look at what happens its something different. Poor iq and poor cognitive functioning and decline is what we see in sz expression in the vast majority of cases and not genius. And not only is this at the active expression stage . It is a precursor and predictor for people at risk.


Yeah that would explain why I feel dumber than a box of rocks! :-)

That was what they measured my IQ at during my college entrance exam, I'm 34 now. Among other things, I did a lot of self medicating in my early twenties, so I'm sure it's no where near as high as it once was.

I seem to have a natural talent for mathematics, and science. In fact I'm good with game theory much like John Nash was. In my spare time I've been working on a mathematics degree. Furthermore, I've had dyslexia and other communication defects since childhood. I have noticed a decline in cognitive functioning, but I merely assumed it was due to old age. Are you telling me it's going to get worse?
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Old Jan 18, 2014, 11:42 AM
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I don't want to get sectioned, all I do in hospital is pace and kick the wall when I get pissed and I have no idea what type I am.

Being in hospital for months will suck though, they put stalkers in there with me.
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Old Jan 18, 2014, 12:23 PM
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Yeah that would explain why I feel dumber than a box of rocks! :-)

That was what they measured my IQ at during my college entrance exam, I'm 34 now. Among other things, I did a lot of self medicating in my early twenties, so I'm sure it's no where near as high as it once was.

I seem to have a natural talent for mathematics, and science. In fact I'm good with game theory much like John Nash was. In my spare time I've been working on a mathematics degree. Furthermore, I've had dyslexia and other communication defects since childhood. I have noticed a decline in cognitive functioning, but I merely assumed it was due to old age. Are you telling me it's going to get worse?
I honestly dont know , i dont know your dx. you could be very high functioning. You may not be sz , you could be incorrectly diagnosed , you could be bucking the trend.

the research is disputed by many but some common themes are poor cognitive functioning in childhood and early teens can be a predictor for sz expression for persons at risk. Intelligence is not only defined by an ability to recall learned material , it's also defined by an ability to concentrate , to filter sensory inputs , to make appropriate conclusions , to be robust , dynamic and think on ones feet.

I was never a genius to begin with , above average intelligence . My problem was always concentration , my information recall was very good though, but i've lost 10 to 15 points on my iq. It would be much worse only for the internet and my tablet device.

sz itself hits cognition and an ability to concentrate naturally but what is also a kicker is that people naturally forget grammer , numeracy , literacy , all about current affairs , narural history , the sciences , because they become so dormant.
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