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Old Jun 28, 2014, 11:04 PM
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Is olazapine zyprexa?

That's great that he's doing good with the dose decrease.
Yup it is.
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Old Jun 28, 2014, 11:06 PM
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Is olazapine zyprexa?

That's great that he's doing good with the dose decrease.
Yeah, Zyprexa. He's doing great. The pdoc was going to take him all the way off. Kind of like Sometimes's did. To see if he could do it without relapse.

He says he wants to stay at this level, though, instead of going off altogether. He told me a couple of months ago - so at a higher dose - that he was starting to have trouble falling asleep. That's why he wants to stay on the small dose, as a sleep aid.

So, why is he now saying the lower dose is helping him sleep better? I'm confused.
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Old Jun 28, 2014, 11:10 PM
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Yeah, Zyprexa. He's doing great. The pdoc was going to take him all the way off. Kind of like Sometimes's did. To see if he could do it without relapse.

He says he wants to stay at this level, though, instead of going off altogether. He told me a couple of months ago - so at a higher dose - that he was starting to have trouble falling asleep. That's why he wants to stay on the small dose, as a sleep aid.

So, why is he now saying the lower dose is helping him sleep btter? I'm confused.
That is confusing. Zyprexa usually knocks me out but when I was in a mixed state I was on 30 mg and still not sleeping. I needed my AD lowered. Had to figure all this stuff out on my own...geez

Back to you, idk why he would think that....
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Old Jun 28, 2014, 11:15 PM
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My son's pdoc lowered his dose again on Wednesday evening. So, he's now taking a quarter of a 2.5 mg pill of olanzapine. His dose is 0.625 mg.

He says the quality of his sleep has improved significantly since this dose change. The last three nights have been great.

However, he's taken to drinking again. It started with two beers once a week and progressed to quite a bit of bourbon almost nightly. He was calling me in the evening, obviously drunk and saying maudlin things.

Finally he had a night where he fell asleep (passed out?) at 8:30 in the evening and woke up at 1 am and couldn't get back to sleep. I told him alcohol was going to screw up his sleep, and maybe he should quit it for a week and see if it helps.

That was ... Wednesday! Same as the dose change.

He's giving the credit for his great sleep to less olanzapine. I'm giving it to no alcohol.

I can tell he really wants alcohol to be a part of his life. Just giving it up for a week seems hard. In fact after 2 days he thought the week was up.

I was confused. I thought the AP made you sleep. He said that it does, but it's a poor quality sleep. He's saying the quality these last three nights has been better than he's had in a long time.
Yeah I don't think there have been any studies linking alcohol to psychosis but I don't touch anything except for cooking which mostly evaporates...I just don't think its worth the risk....most of the long term recovery people I've read about have cut out any kind of drug/alcohol and brought in healthy sleep and eating...
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Old Jun 28, 2014, 11:18 PM
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Speaking of APs and weight gain. My son has had another paradoxical effect in lowering the dose.

When he started on olanzapine - 3 years ago, I think - he weighed 116 pounds. He'd dropped 30 pounds in the months before during a really bad psychotic episode. Mid 140's was his normal adult weight.

So they get him on 35 mg of olanzapine at the state hospital. And, of course, he starts gaining - which was a good thing at that point. His pdoc started reducing the dose pretty quickly when he got out of the hospital, so his weight topped out at 165 - 20 pounds higher than his normal weight.

As the dose came down and down, his weight came down and down - until he was in the low 130s and really struggling to keep from losing more. He was never hungry and forcing himself to eat.

So the dose keeps coming down, and you'd think he'd still be losing and struggling, but, no, at some point it stopped being a problem. His appetite normalized (he's never had a huge appetite), and now he weighs 158 without forcing himself to eat. He's happy with that weight, because he thought he was too thin before.

Isn't that weird? As the dose came steadily down, we got this U shaped weight chart - high to low then back up again.
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Old Jun 28, 2014, 11:20 PM
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Yeah, Zyprexa. He's doing great. The pdoc was going to take him all the way off. Kind of like Sometimes's did. To see if he could do it without relapse.

He says he wants to stay at this level, though, instead of going off altogether. He told me a couple of months ago - so at a higher dose - that he was starting to have trouble falling asleep. That's why he wants to stay on the small dose, as a sleep aid.

So, why is he now saying the lower dose is helping him sleep btter? I'm confused.
I actually had a lot of conflicting issues when I was tapering like 5mg is the most terrible dose of abilify ever but 7.5 is not that bad and 2.5 is like nothing....its not linear there is something weird at the midrange dose....a lot of the APs are weird like this because they bind more than one thing. The sleep part is probably histamine related which is really strong at any dose but it could have actually gotten rid of some activating activity at another receptor when he lowered the dose.
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Old Jun 28, 2014, 11:21 PM
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Speaking of APs and weight gain. My son has had another paradoxical effect in lowering the dose.

When he started on olanzapine - 3 years ago, I think - he weighed 116 pounds. He'd dropped 30 pounds in the months before during a really bad psychotic episode. Mid 140's was his normal adult weight.

So they get him on 35 mg of olanzapine at the state hospital. And, of course, he starts gaining - which was a good thing at that point. His pdoc started reducing the dose pretty quickly when he got out of the hospital, so his weight topped out at 165 - 20 pounds higher than his normal weight.

As the dose came down and down, his weight came down and down - until he was in the low 130s and really struggling to keep from losing more. He was never hungry and forcing himself to eat.

So the dose keeps coming down, and you'd think he'd still be losing and struggling, but, no, at some point it stopped being a problem. His appetite normalized (he's never had a huge appetite), and now he weighs 158 without forcing himself to eat. He's happy with that weight, because he thought he was too thin before.

Isn't that weird? As the dose came steadily down, we got this U shaped weight chart - high to low then back up again.
Yeah...interesting.
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Old Jun 28, 2014, 11:22 PM
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Old Jun 28, 2014, 11:22 PM
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Old Jun 28, 2014, 11:24 PM
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Yeah I don't think there have been any studies linking alcohol to psychosis but I don't touch anything except for cooking which mostly evaporates...I just don't think its worth the risk....most of the long term recovery people I've read about have cut out any kind of drug/alcohol and brought in healthy sleep and eating...
Yeah, I wish he wouldn't drink. I'm a teetotaler myself and don't like alcohol. He's an adult, though, and he's had a lot of his decision-making rights wrenched away from him because of his mental illness. So, I've left it up to him. I try to remain neutral, because anything I say strongly influences him.

I do hope that ultimately he'll decide/discover that alcohol isn't a good choice for him, but he has to make that decision himself. He's told me that he doesn't ever want to go back to the hospital or lose control of his life again. So I know he'll quit it if he decides it's causing him problems.
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Old Jun 28, 2014, 11:28 PM
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yes today i brought water but yesterday i didnt. its been hours now and i been peeing a lot but it hasnt gone down
The thing with weight loss is that you have to do stuff consistently, imo and eat at the same time. Eat a good breakfast , thats important , try to get some porridge in , stay hydrated during the day , get in your bit of exercise , dont over exert , and eat something light before going to bed. The more you do this consistantly the less hungrier you should be. Its medically proven that binge eating , or snacking on sugary foods or sugar substitutes, only increases appetitite, its funny but biologically speaking , i find when i eat outside my routine , the hungrier i am. So depriving yourself of food only increase your chances of binge eat , which only makes yourself hungrier in the longterm. It really is about consistancy.
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Old Jun 29, 2014, 01:47 AM
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So um, does anyone wanna share what happened to cause #29 to be deleted?
Oh! Since I don't pop in all that often, I assumed i just missed it! :P Sorry if there was so much trouble. *hugs to all*
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I uploaded my manga to this site so far I have finished 2 pages aside from the intro
here is the link to the manga if anyone wants to read it. http://kairaiteishu.thecomicseries.com/comics/1/ to turn the page just
click on the page and it will take you to the next one or click the next arrow at the bottom.update/I finished page 3 which is also the end of chapter one the chapters are short because there is so much on each page.I will work on chapter two as soon as possible I already have written out the story board for it just got to do the art.
if any of you read it please let me know what you think.thanks.
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Also, good morning everyone!

I went to bed super early last night because it was a "**** it" kind of evening so I had just had enough and I was super irritated and restless(which means I was also feeling impulsive, never a "good" thing) so I took my meds and went to sleep at like eight last night, hahahaha. Hence the reason why I'm awake and it's not even six in the morning yet!
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Old Jun 29, 2014, 08:01 AM
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Has anyone seen the anime - Another - it looks really good, was thinking of buying it.

I copied this for anyone feeling depressed - Gerard is so sweet

“Everything is temporary. When you’re happy- it’s temporary. Sad? Temporary. Job? Temporary. Bought a house? It’s only yours until you no longer need it. “

There were two ways to look at it- happy or sad. But everything was temporary.

In your worst moments, where you are staring into the blackest hole, the razor-lined mouth of a vicious, rabid animal- when you aren’t good enough, pretty enough, thin enough, smart enough- when the worst thing inside you chooses to attack- it is temporary. Likewise, when you are in those moments of pure joy, surrounded by your loved ones, high scoring skee-ball, holding your best friends hand at a concert- it is also temporary.

And that is ok.

It is life, and living, or the closest thing to it- but more than that there is help.

I go to therapy- my doctor and I don’t use labels, because she believes that every single person is a different case. What one person has more of, another has less of.

And in the differences, we are all the same- imbalanced, and some of us need an assist. I grew up in an era that came off the tail end of damning the notion of mental treatment, so it was a dirty phrase. Unfortunately it still is today. The labels linger, the stigma exists, and all of it keeps help further away.

This is the part where I get serious and say that if you suffer from severe depression, you should seek treatment. If no one takes you seriously- find someone that will. Knowing what I know now, I wouldn’t fear a single repercussion for taking my mental health seriously and in my hands. Nothing would stop me. Not a label, or a joke- nothing.

I hope you find comfort in this. I hope you know that a lot of people, including myself, battle the beast all the time, and we win. I have finally gotten myself to a place where I no longer face the extremes, but it takes work, every week- I get up, and I make sure I am at my session- even the days where I don’t want to be there. I would imagine you’d feel the same way sometimes, and that is ok. Maybe it’s even hard for you to take the first steps- and that’s ok too.

I know you can.
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Old Jun 29, 2014, 08:06 AM
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I uploaded my manga to this site so far I have finished 2 pages aside from the intro
here is the link to the manga if anyone wants to read it. Kairai Teishu | Intro to turn the page just
click on the page and it will take you to the next one or click the next arrow at the bottom.update/I finished page 3 which is also the end of chapter one the chapters are short because there is so much on each page.I will work on chapter two as soon as possible I already have written out the story board for it just got to do the art.
if any of you read it please let me know what you think.thanks.
It's awesome I really like both the writing style and the artwork! Keep it coming
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Old Jun 29, 2014, 08:11 AM
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I copied this for anyone feeling depressed - Gerard is so sweet

“Everything is temporary. When you’re happy- it’s temporary. Sad? Temporary. Job? Temporary. Bought a house? It’s only yours until you no longer need it. “


Thanks, Kureha. It sounds like the man knows what he's talking about. I love it when famous people use their fame to try and help others.
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Ok I have a question (mostly for newtus or junk dna) how did you get those titles? I checked under the FAQ but they weren't there.. If they are custom how do you get custom titles (if they even exist)
i think u have to reach 2,000 posts and then u can edit it in your profile settings
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Old Jun 29, 2014, 08:17 AM
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i think u have to reach 2,000 posts and then u can edit it in your profile settings
I did not know that. Mine just says 'Elder.' Now I feel compelled to put something clever there.
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Old Jun 29, 2014, 08:19 AM
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i have to work 11 to 5 today. my friend wants me to come to her house when i get off work to meet her sister. her sister is visiting from out of state. im kind of thinking i wont want to after working. idk. im kind of nervous about it too. i dont feel that good right now but i guess ill feel better once i get going and start working
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Thanks Costello - Gerard knows his stuff
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Old Jun 29, 2014, 08:26 AM
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Thanks Costello - Gerard knows his stuff
Looks like he's generous too. He didn't have to reveal himself like that. He could have kept his struggles a secret, but he probably helped a lot of people by being open about them.
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