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Sometimes psychotic · Dec 03, 2014, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Angelique67

I'd go back in if I could without making some excuse. I could get off cigarettes again and eat well for a week!

Don't you have to pay? It was $2,000 a day for the one I went to....some of that gets paid by insurance but not all. I could eat at a michelin-starred restaurant for less....

Erti · Dec 03, 2014, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Sometimes psychotic

Maybe----still it's just pricy---plus I hated it...maybe if I had gone into one of those super pet therapy places I would have been into it...

True. Hospitalizations are crazy expensive.

Sometimes psychotic · Dec 03, 2014, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by neil w

Medieval studies, primarily thirteenth and fourteenth century England. I dont lecture any more and only publish on my website, Medieval Studies. My stay in london is for coaching american football though, not medieval studies!

Oh cool, on both counts

aka Bean · Dec 03, 2014, 03:44 PM

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me three!

omg soooooo cute

:d

aka Bean · Dec 03, 2014, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Lillybird90

The big day is almost here, tomorrow I take my ged test.

Lets hope I pass it.
I have been having issues where in public everything just phases out and I start hearing or seeing things more rapidly and It will happen out of the blue I will just be sitting there then I start to feel like I am not here and almost like a dream state and things will seem overly weird to me I will be paranoid and think everyones looking at me or hates me or something and I will see people talking and clearly hear them talking about me negatively or for instance there was this light on the ceiling in the school it kept flickering so I was pretending I could control it mentally by making it come on and off just for fun but then I actually started to believe I could and then I started looking around and noticed people were looking at me funny and I was worried they knew what I was thinking. Is this some sort of psychosis? because this is different than the usual voices or visual hallucinations that come and go that I normally have. these are a little more intense and last longer. usually if I experience paranoia which can last up to a few days its usually not as strong as the kind I have been experiencing lately. I cant really explain it I just think it has to do with me still not being fully mentally adjusted to being out in public more than I used to be.

WOW! good luck

i know how u feel like every person is judging you that happens all the time 4 me

newtus · Dec 03, 2014, 03:57 PM

thats 75% why i dont goto hospitals. i cant afford to go ALL the time especially for an anxiety attack or if i cut myself or whatever those people were saying. so i suffer mostly in silence

Dec 03, 2014, 04:14 PM

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I got to do art once in my 5 day stay---it was considered occupational therapy---my eyes were probably huge they had the best craft cabinet I'd ever seen---feather's shells leather etc. I mad sort of a wand/shaman staff that had all that plus butterflies---they wouldn't let me keep it for some reason. I still partially believe it was because it was truly magical and needed to stay there to work.

We also had music therapy for like an hour we got to pick 1 song off of cassettes and that was it for the whole week----I so love itunes etc after that----

I know ppl have said that u may have asperger. Have u ever considered schizotypal personality disorder?

Anyway, well 48 hours the crime show did a expose on the organization I was abused in on Saturday. It was really good. I hope they further investigate it. It's a really, really sick organization.

I'm finally sleeping regular hours. Now I just need to get out of this depression somehow...Ugh.

Sometimes psychotic · Dec 03, 2014, 04:27 PM

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I know ppl have said that u may have asperger. Have u ever considered schizotypal personality disorder?

I have considered it, but I think it might be more like schizoid---that can convert to hallucinations as well but it very much has to do with not having a strong attachment to other people more so than schizotypal which has more to do with the magical thinking aspects. I noticed on the aspie quiz for example that I had zero on the neurotypical attachment scale--I might talk to my T about this to get a pro opinion.

aka Bean · Dec 03, 2014, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Erti

I've been to some good hospitals... You're basically in good hospitals you're doing therapy all day. It gets boring after a while. I spent 2 weeks in a good one. I had a hard time staying up through all that.

yeah ive been to 2 hospitals one of them 4 times and the last one 1 time and the first one ive been 4 times had groups every 15 mins and lasted about an hour and the last one no groups

Angelique67 · Dec 03, 2014, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Sometimes psychotic

Don't you have to pay? It was $2,000 a day for the one I went to....some of that gets paid by insurance but not all. I could eat at a michelin-starred restaurant for less....

No, medicaid picked up the whole expense. I qualify for extra assistance where I am.

Sometimes psychotic · Dec 03, 2014, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Angelique67

No, medicaid picked up the whole expense. I qualify for extra assistance where I am.

Oh---I can see why you might like it then---

Dec 03, 2014, 06:08 PM

Don't see what the problem is with people going into hospital for high levels of anxiety or self harm. Generally anxiety leads to self harm and can lead to thoughts of suicide. Are these not valid enough reasons to be an inpatient? Not everyone is psychotic and I learned that from my stays, there's quite a number of different reasons why people end up in hospital. There are also very different levels of self harm, some episodes can be very serious and an inpatient stay could prevent potentially dangerous instances of this.

Is psychosis the only valid reason to go to the hospital?

faerie_moon_x · Dec 03, 2014, 06:44 PM

Reason I don't ever go to hospital is:
1) no person has ever thought of taking me

2) I think of taking me and actually got in the car more than once to go, but the cost stops me.

Also, Sometimes Psychotic , I have a dx of Scizoid but I don't agree with it. But I've researched Secret Schizoid some.

It's hard to explain but I feel love and attachment to my husband and kids. But I also have a strange aloofness and I hate group activities. Like I don't like working in groups and avoid it as an example. But I still think I'm misdiagnosed with that and it's just a symptom of something else or caused by being outcasted and bullied so bad as a kid.

Secretum · Dec 03, 2014, 07:32 PM

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also ive been reading this schizoaffective group on facebook and theres quite a bit of people on there saying they goto the hospital sometimes just because they dont feel quite right or for anxiety or something along the lines of that. and i just dont understand...? because i go through medium to extreme episodes about every other day and im not putting myself in the hospital?

I saw someone in the hospital who was there for anxiety, but it was really extreme, intense anxiety. She couldn't eat, she couldn't talk to anyone, she couldn't function and she was always crying. She said it was like having a panic attack that lasted for three weeks and showed no sign of ever stopping.

I used to think that anxiety was a mild problem until I met her. She was in the hospital because the anxiety was so intense that she was suicidal.

newtus · Dec 03, 2014, 07:49 PM

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Don't see what the problem is with people going into hospital for high levels of anxiety or self harm. Generally anxiety leads to self harm and can lead to thoughts of suicide. Are these not valid enough reasons to be an inpatient? Not everyone is psychotic and I learned that from my stays, there's quite a number of different reasons why people end up in hospital. There are also very different levels of self harm, some episodes can be very serious and an inpatient stay could prevent potentially dangerous instances of this.

Is psychosis the only valid reason to go to the hospital?

dont get me wrong guys

its not EVERYONE on that group but most are saying that stuff.

you dont have to be psychotic to go into a hospital.

BUT i honestly dont know why someone would go for anxiety. a thousand or 2k thousand a day hospital stay for anxiety? i personally dont understand that.

i may not always take my antipsychotics but i havent been misusing my antianxiety pills. i use them exactly how im supposed to and they STILL dont really help me. so what i want to know is how are these people paying for hospital stays (in the USA) for anxiety and i can barely afford it when someone like me is psychotic sometimes. sometimes so much so that i get in legal trouble for it.

also when i was in a few hospitals i saw many homeless people that truly needed that help and they were getting sent away prematurely or not getting treated at all and they had very severe problems.

IM NOT SAYING THESE PEOPLE DONT NEED HELP ON THIS GROUP. what im saying is 1 - *HOW do they afford it?* because i actually want to be able to afford it for my episodes too. and 2 - *WHAT is going on within themselves that they cant get outpatient care for anxiety and superficial self harm and things along those lines*. notice how i say superficial as in medically not a threat/harm to to their body. superficial is a term ive heard used in psych hospitals from doctors to describe a level of self harm. thats why i said that word.

Sometimes psychotic · Dec 03, 2014, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by chickenfoot

Don't see what the problem is with people going into hospital for high levels of anxiety or self harm. Generally anxiety leads to self harm and can lead to thoughts of suicide. Are these not valid enough reasons to be an inpatient? Not everyone is psychotic and I learned that from my stays, there's quite a number of different reasons why people end up in hospital. There are also very different levels of self harm, some episodes can be very serious and an inpatient stay could prevent potentially dangerous instances of this.

Is psychosis the only valid reason to go to the hospital?

To me im just not a fan when the cost is taken into account....having nurses treat me like something stuck to the underside of their shoe isn't worth the cost per day of a luxury spa. If you don't have to pay I think things look entirely different...although I'm still not a fan I might be if I was in an unstable environment. Personally I would rather have a vacation than a hospitalization...
I think the question isn't so much whether people have a valid reason but how do they afford going so frequently...this is probably just a symptom of the messed up us health system...most inpatients are either suicidal or homicidal so it's confusing to see people at earlier stages and makes you wonder how they get the money to go.

newtus · Dec 03, 2014, 07:53 PM

very seriously tho i do NOT think anxiety is a mild problem. i have very severe anxiety but it doesnt last for days. but it has before. but it can last for hours where i can become psychotic from it sometimes and other things... but i still cant goto the hospital 10+ times a year like some of these people are saying. unless of course it was involuntary but i still couldnt pay for it.

even tho im on disability and have medicare (which is supposed to pay for all or most of hospital expenses) im still paying 1-2 thousand sometimes maybe more dollars for most stays.

newtus · Dec 03, 2014, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Sometimes psychotic

I think the question isn't so much whether people have a valid reason but how do they afford going so frequently...this is probably just a symptom of the messed up us health system...most inpatients are either suicidal or homicidal so it's confusing to see people at earlier stages and makes you wonder how they get the money to go.

that bolded part is exactly what im trying to say.

i think the psych hospital is VERY valid for anyone experiencing a range of things going on with them. BUT i literally just saw someone say they went 9-10 times this year for anxiety and something else. and other things...

but when i goto the hospital - now that im above 18 - all the expenses are in my name. and i personally couldnt afford to go frequently for even some of my psychotic episodes. thats why you guys see me coming on here and talking my guts out about my symptoms. this is the only place i have to come and if you dont see me talking on here then im literally suffering in silence and i dont tell anyone. maybe my dad may notice my psychosis occassionaly or i might tell him 1 thing but i usually tell no one.

but thats another thing about not telling anyone. i was just trying to say idk how some people can afford to go frequently. thats all.

newtus · Dec 03, 2014, 08:37 PM

so i asked these people how they are paying for it. they said whatever medicare doesnt pay medicaid pays for the rest. so yea. i couldnt get accepted for SSI and medicaid because i made too much money on SSDI.

junkDNA · Dec 03, 2014, 09:28 PM

i get medicaid and medicare on my disability. i got medicaid when i got disability then medicare sometime later.

but i havent been in the hospital in 2 yrs. i hate the hospital.

i am feeling better today. i have been taking my prns regularly. i am in touch with my t. my mom is staying tonight too. we found out i cant get my shot til friday

Angelique67 · Dec 03, 2014, 11:21 PM

I don't like being confined. I've only been inpatient for psych twice. The first time was involuntary and the 2nd time I was in acute Klonopin WD. I was psychotic both times.

Loial · Dec 04, 2014, 02:33 AM

Morning folks,

Freezing here this morning... -2 degrees Celsius. Can't be bothered to convert for you folks right now.

I have my p-doc appointment around lunch time today... not too nervous about it, I quite like the p-doc I've been given this time.

Angelique67 · Dec 04, 2014, 02:37 AM

Hi loial. I hope your day will be nice. I'm not sure when I'll get to sleep.

Loial · Dec 04, 2014, 02:45 AM

Are you able to read at the moment, I find that good for making me sleepy...

Angelique67 · Dec 04, 2014, 03:18 AM

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Are you able to read at the moment, I find that good for making me sleepy...

I'm reading pc lol. I'm tired but I have a lot of anxiety. I napped again in the evening for a long time. I thought maybe I'd try to stay up 24 hours. Not sure if I can.

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