Triggers... should we talk about them??

AmaShel567 brought up something and so I will question my thinking about the triggers that could lead to SI thinking. SO here's my question to all of you. Do you think that talking about potential triggers could be helpful in getting rid of the SI thinking? And if so would talking about them here be a safe place to get some feedback? (Especialy since some of us don't have a Therapist currently)

Yes, I think it could help. Quite possibly it could be that not talking about triggers is why we're so sensitive to them.

Maybe we just need to get used to our triggers...uuuhhhmm....
I'm not sure I can think of any triggers off the top of my head...haven't had many lately...xD silly me.

Absolutely! This is exactly how I diffused my triggers (but my triggers didn't lead to SI). What I did was first identify what triggered me. Then I identified what was being triggered up from the past. After this the work only occurred when I got triggered again. When I got triggered I would remind myself of what was being triggered from the past and then reminded myself that this past wasn't occurring anymore and grounded myself in the present. After several rounds of this I actually diffused the trigger. It was like I rewired it in my brain. If it is a big trigger from the past it will need to be discussed in therapy so that you can release the emotions around it in therapy.

What I just discussed is a traditional trigger. SI triggers might or might not be different? My understanding of the SI trigger is that emotions get aroused and the SI diffuses or decreases the emotions. Further work on this might be expressing the emotions?

Maybe if you work through one here it will clear some of this ^ up? (And I do agree that this is a great place to work through many things, triggers included).

Now I just have to figure out the triggers before things happen. So, I think by starting with the past is the best way to try to find them. When I have SI'ed it's becuase I felt so alone, and scared. I didn't really know what to do, but I felt like by telling about why I was release from school I would have to punish myself.

That's IT!! I've seen SI as a Punishment because I told one of my deepest screts, that I was Suspended because of things outside of my control. And now with that out I feel like I have to SI again, but I can stop the cycle. The past I can't change but I can change the present. I can change how I view the world.

So here's my secrets.......
I have been suspened because of being on the wrong meds. That was the first time. Then I went back and i was afriad of going back into that office where I was suspened... and it happened again 2 years later. And now I'm not returning to where all that happened. but I will be an 1.5 hours away from there but I get to creat my own self again. So I get to change how I view the world... and change how I think.

I have wanted to go further then just SI'ing but I can change that too. I can look behind the motivations... And change my current motivations. But that means trying to get out of Depression. but that could be changed by looking at triggers of when I get depressed....

And Since I don't have a Therapist I'm going to find the triggers and post them on here to just get them out of me... So for all those that read this, Feedback is nice. and then after I get things worked through then I can help you out. Far enough right!

It is amazing how writing things out here gets them clear in your head. If you keep them in your head it is almost impossible to sort through them. It's like looking for something in a deep container. It is much easier to take the stuff out to sort through it then to just move the stuff around in the container. You can certainly get a better look at it if you take it out.

personally.. if my mood dips low enough there isn't a whole lot I can to to stop ..discussing it on a regular night on a forum or whatever doesn't make me want to do it I just have to be in that place in my head..

But mistyeyed, something you should remember are you are who you are in your head. If your head is in that place then getting part of it out could help. But you have to give it time.... Much time... just don't give up!

Sannah... I've just recently read your signature, and something hit me about it, I actually feel very trapped in my life.... Meaning I'm under constand supervison by my parents, and don't have the money to get out of the house until my loans come in for school. and I hope to get a job. But until then The SI happens some of the time when I feel trapped... like I'm in a place where I can't get out/someone else is in my head. Feeling trapped isn't a good feeling. And I hate it becuase right now I have to be quite in the morning so I can't play my instruments but I just don't do it in the afternoon, and by evening comes I don't like to disterbe the neighbors. So I just end up not doing the things that I love... because I'm to concerned with the noice. I just hate my life.... and that leads to feeling trapped.

I'm trapped... and now I will hopefully be able to be less trapped when we move in to a house in the next few days. where I can be noisey... that is if i get up the energy to practice. I'm trapped not only in my head but physically and I hope that it will help after I'm not as physically trapped. But all I can do is hope.

I do find that I have so many ideas, that I don't know where to start.... or what one to do first so I end up on the computer for much of the day. Which isn't very helpfull. since I want to do other things but again I'm trapped. And I think that feeling leads to trying to find an outlet to feel free again.... so It comes out in my head, and then through SI. It's not pretty but I just have to find a way to not feel so trapped and also start to do things.... some how??

Can you get out in nature Puzz? This always helped me to feel free. So does bike riding. Why aren't you practicing your instruments in the afternoon? What do you play BTW? Can you take one of your ideas and go for it? Very good identifying the issues that you are struggling with BTW.

It's too cold and rainy out there. I would love to ride my bike but it's in storage until monday. SO hopefully sometime next week. In the afternoon, the wanting to is gone... In the late evening the want to play is there agian. It's so speratic. (and I play several instruments Clarinet, Piano, Alto Sax, and now Guitar)

Most of the ideas just lack the motivation... which in itself is difficult to deal with. I do have the motivation to practice but lack the time. Motivation is a hard thing to understand. But it fuels so many things... and for me those things don't come as easily.

And I think I know what to look for when identifying things that need to change. With my background and current carrer path (Psychology) It fits very well. I can se what needs to change but right now I lack the skills to fix the problems. but that will change. some how?!

I doubt that you would bother the neighbors. Can you just play your instruments in the evening then?

Motivation....... can you just force yourself to do something and see if it turns around?

Can you outline your problems that you want to fix here? It could help with the problem solving.

Well now I can play but my room is a MESS... just like the rest of the house... boxes all over. but on the plus side I got a part time job for the month before I move again. So I'm busy again... and that helps soooooo much, and it makes it so that I am doing sooo much better. So staying busy and not thinking about all the problems in my mind is a good thing. BUt it means that I can't find the problems as quickly, but I know I can find them sooner or later. and for the next month I'll just keep posting on here to get things out. but.... I do have an on call position and will need to do a good job on the first day to get the hours. wish me good luck and lots of Muscle. Working for UPS, for December then I go back to the state I love, for school!!

I don't think talking about triggers is very good for me unless I'm in a place where I can't hurt myself. Otherwise, when I try to figure out why they are triggers, or even just dwell on them too much, I start feeling those urges again, and usually it leads to SI. I know that for some, it's a really good idea, but for me, it's just not too safe.

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Sounds great Puzz!

Thanks, Wolfy.
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