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Old May 22, 2009, 09:20 PM
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I used to catch my husband telling lies, just minor ones here and there. It caused me a lot of stress, but I sort of thought that was the way it was supposed to be. I mean practicaly every sitcom on tv has the wife catching her sly but relatively stupid husband in lies. After he left me I started finding out all kinds of things he kept secret and discovered some really big lies. It all makes me feel so incredibly stupid, I mean why in the heck didn't I notice?
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" I don't wanna be the girl that has to fill the silence.
The quiet scares me 'cause it screams the truth.
Please don't tell me that we had that conversation,
'Cause I won't remember, save your breath 'cause what's the use?

Aahh, the night is calling, and it whispers to me softly,
"Come and play". Aahh, I am falling, and if I let myself go
I'm the only one to blame.

I'm safe, up high, nothing can touch me, but why do I feel
this party's over?
No pain, inside, you're like perfection, but how do I feel
this good sober?"
(From the song "Sober", by Pink)

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Old May 22, 2009, 10:37 PM
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Love blinds us to those things, makes us explain away the littles as no big deal, the bigs as a misunderstanding. It isn't until you step away from the relationship that you see the totality of the issue.
Do all men lie? Well Do all women lie?? Human nature has us tell fibs I think. Say how much we paid for a purse or a pair of shoes. We'll he;ll lie about how much he lost at the poker table....not ment to hurt the other just releave the stress a bit. But as we get away with those it gets easier to lie about why we were late. No there wasn't a traffic accident, it was chatting with the hot guy at the office but that would upset him so we use traffic. Then even bigger until it ruins a life. I'm sorry If I'm not making any sense now. I started with a good thought then my sleeping pill set in and I think I am rambling. Point!!! All people lie! Not just men....There I think I got to it
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Old May 24, 2009, 12:32 AM
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Good Question.... but the only answer I can come up with is - No more than women do.
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Old May 24, 2009, 01:28 AM
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So are you two saying I'm making a big deal
out of nothing?
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Do all men lie?

" I don't wanna be the girl that has to fill the silence.
The quiet scares me 'cause it screams the truth.
Please don't tell me that we had that conversation,
'Cause I won't remember, save your breath 'cause what's the use?

Aahh, the night is calling, and it whispers to me softly,
"Come and play". Aahh, I am falling, and if I let myself go
I'm the only one to blame.

I'm safe, up high, nothing can touch me, but why do I feel
this party's over?
No pain, inside, you're like perfection, but how do I feel
this good sober?"
(From the song "Sober", by Pink)
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Old May 24, 2009, 05:06 AM
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I was in the same situation I was married for fifteen years and it only came to light AFTER I left him just how much he had lied over the years ! I felt like a fool.

However I also believe that women lie just as much as men do.
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Old May 24, 2009, 05:38 AM
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I think every situation is different, and perhaps a man feels like he should protect his partner/wife and that's why he feels the need to lie. But then that does not make it ok. It works around the other way too, and I also believe women lie just as much, it may just be about different things.
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Old May 24, 2009, 06:38 AM
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I agree with Rhap ...........no more than woman do.
If someone lies its thier choice not a gender thing.
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Old May 24, 2009, 10:42 AM
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Men communicate differently than womyn do. Men are more direct whereas women are more descriptive.

As far as men not telling the truth I think it is situational and not gender based. I think it depends on the man and his ability to communicate effectively.
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Old May 27, 2009, 12:19 AM
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as others have said, not just men lie, everyone lies. people lie to you about all kinds of things. it could be a simple white lie to keep a person from being upset, or it could be big huge lies like governments lying to their citizens. how upset you should be about the lie all depends on what it was about. lying about how much money was lost in a poker gamer, to use the previous example, would irritate me some, but not a big deal in the end. lying about infidelity or something similar, however, would be grounds for dissolution of the relationship. lies come big and small, some we should just learn to accept, but remember, dont let yourself be a doormat because people will also walk all over you. if something upsets you try to talk about it if that is an option.
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Old May 27, 2009, 02:25 AM
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I used to catch my husband telling lies, just minor ones here and there. It caused me a lot of stress, but I sort of thought that was the way it was supposed to be. I mean practicaly every sitcom on tv has the wife catching her sly but relatively stupid husband in lies. After he left me I started finding out all kinds of things he kept secret and discovered some really big lies. It all makes me feel so incredibly stupid, I mean why in the heck didn't I notice?

You asked why hadn't you noticed?

Because he never meant for you to! And you're not clairvoyant!

I'm sorry someone you loved betrayed you. I'm sure there are bunches here who understand how that feels like such a big kick in the teeth.
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Old May 28, 2009, 12:43 PM
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The "white lies" didn't bother me all that much, like I said before, I thought that was normal 'cause I see it on tv all the time. After he abandoned me and I learned a few of the other lies he had told me -- well, that was a different story all together. These were major lies: pretending to work at places that didn't exist, getting fired and not saying anything but pretending to go to work every day, stealing money from our bank account, borrowing money regularly from my dad and hiding it, said he had a military background when in reality he had never even tried to enlist, not showing up for work even when he promised me and his boss -- these are the types of lies that I'm talking about. I feel like such an idiot!!
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Do all men lie?

" I don't wanna be the girl that has to fill the silence.
The quiet scares me 'cause it screams the truth.
Please don't tell me that we had that conversation,
'Cause I won't remember, save your breath 'cause what's the use?

Aahh, the night is calling, and it whispers to me softly,
"Come and play". Aahh, I am falling, and if I let myself go
I'm the only one to blame.

I'm safe, up high, nothing can touch me, but why do I feel
this party's over?
No pain, inside, you're like perfection, but how do I feel
this good sober?"
(From the song "Sober", by Pink)
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Old May 30, 2009, 03:55 AM
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The "white lies" didn't bother me all that much, like I said before, I thought that was normal 'cause I see it on tv all the time. After he abandoned me and I learned a few of the other lies he had told me -- well, that was a different story all together. These were major lies: pretending to work at places that didn't exist, getting fired and not saying anything but pretending to go to work every day, stealing money from our bank account, borrowing money regularly from my dad and hiding it, said he had a military background when in reality he had never even tried to enlist, not showing up for work even when he promised me and his boss -- these are the types of lies that I'm talking about. I feel like such an idiot!!
Don't feel like an idiot!!

Some people are "compulsive liars" and are exceptionally good (or exceptionally bad in other circumstances) about hiding the real truth behind things... it doesn't mean that you weren't paying attention... it just means you didn't know!

I don't think men lie any more than women do... I just think they have different ways of communicating about some things and sometimes it seems like lying when it isn't.

However, the examples you've just provided are BIG LIES. Yikes.
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Old May 30, 2009, 12:41 PM
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Everyone lies. And everyone lies to themselves about their lying.
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