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Old Nov 17, 2015, 02:33 AM
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I have recently started using gases and inhalants as soft drugs. like nail polish and butane. but i only feel a light effect. does it depend on quantity or quality?

anyone already doing that? is it safe? does it really create an addiction? what is the safest one to use and the worst? could i die because of it?

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Old Nov 17, 2015, 12:53 PM
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Extremely unsafe and possibly placing you at risk for permanent brain damage. There are safer alternatives, but this is a forum wherein members are trying to get support for getting and staying off of substances, not getting permission or support for continuing to use. Check out the Erowid.org site, which is a private, member supported website that has pretty objective information about various substances if you want more first person information about the effects and experiences of users.
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Old Nov 17, 2015, 01:24 PM
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Thank you for answering and sorry if my post was offensive or violating the rules, i didnt mean it.
i'll edit it hoping to make it accettable.
Thanks for answering anyway. my apologizes.

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ooops. cant edit it now. sorry. if you feel like it should be deleted i'll understand and apologize again.
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Old Nov 17, 2015, 04:01 PM
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I have recently started using gases and inhalants as soft drugs. like nail polish and butane. but i only feel a light effect. does it depend on quantity or quality?

anyone already doing that? is it safe? does it really create an addiction? what is the safest one to use and the worst? could i die because of it?

thanks.
Don't do it! All your appendages will fall off!

The safest one to use is the no one.

And yes...you can die.
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Old Nov 22, 2015, 05:48 PM
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I'm drunk now
Had a nice evening and then felt the NEED to get drunk
Cos i feel bad inside
Am i addicted?
I dont do it evereyday but i need it.
Get braek from ilfe getting hiigh somehow...
I FEEL BAD
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Old Nov 23, 2015, 10:00 PM
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I'm sorry Hun, I wouldn't call it addition, but hurt, pain, emptiness, chemical imbalance? It's a black hole that needs filling that never fills. I think a lot of these are a driving force behind addiction, though. "The Need"
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Old Nov 24, 2015, 02:37 PM
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Today i drunk before seeing my T at 10am. i wanted to be more relaxed and open as he wished (and i was) but it was useless since he fired me. i drank afterwards for numbing the pain of rejection, at around 11.30am. had a meeting for work then drank again a little later (from 1 to 3 pm) while i was having class and fell asleep in my car for 1 hour (went there during break) and then went back to class. now i'll take my sleeping pills hoping to just forget today and have the strength to face another day tomorrow. i HATE LIVING SO MUCH.
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Old Nov 24, 2015, 05:47 PM
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Today i drunk before seeing my T at 10am. i wanted to be more relaxed and open as he wished (and i was) but it was useless since he fired me. i drank afterwards for numbing the pain of rejection, at around 11.30am. had a meeting for work then drank again a little later (from 1 to 3 pm) while i was having class and fell asleep in my car for 1 hour (went there during break) and then went back to class. now i'll take my sleeping pills hoping to just forget today and have the strength to face another day tomorrow. i HATE LIVING SO MUCH.
You really need help and I mean immediately! Please get yourself to the nearest emergency dept of a hospital; you are playing a very dangerous game here!
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Old Nov 25, 2015, 06:19 AM
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Thanks for your concern. But its not something i do everyday, only when triggered and when i cant cope in other ways....
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Old Nov 25, 2015, 03:15 PM
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If drugs or alcohol interferes with your ability to live in a managed and meaningful way, then they are a problem. You drank before therapy - is that why your T fired you? That would be a BIG red flag to me that there is a problem. Therapy doesn't work if we're drinking or getting high because therapy only works when we have a clear mind to hear and learn. You are not helping yourself at all "coping" with drugs or alcohol. I did it for many years and I can honestly say it does not work. i had to learn how to cope with the REAL world with REAL coping skills that didn't poison my body.
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Old Nov 25, 2015, 07:28 PM
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Yes, Maybe you're right but it doesnt happen often so i wouldnt say it is a problem for me.

I honestly havent understood why the T fired me. He should send a letter with his reasons soon. IF i do get it, i hope i'll understand or you'll help me understand. Anyway it was definately not because i sipped a little of alcohol before seeing him, he couldnt have told i did it and i didnt say it for sure.

ATM i just still feel so hurt, mad and disappointed in him. He seemed nice and i held him in high consideration. At least i had only seen him 6 times so even though i felt a nice bond immediatly, i should be able to get over it soon.

The worst part of it though is that he did exactly what i feared he would do (dumping me) and that i confessed him by e-mail a few days before seeing him.
AND he just one more time confirmed me my vision of life is rightband that i cannot trust anyone, me included...
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Old Nov 26, 2015, 11:43 AM
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Well, i'll admit i have been drinking every day... It helps
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Old Dec 02, 2015, 03:46 AM
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Ahh the old days. I've showed up to therapy drunk before. She refused to let me leave before I sobered up. Embarrassing. Rock bottom. You're turning to any substance to get by and that's not good. You really need to seek help. The inhalants scare me more than the drinking. Have you ever seen someone strung out on that stuff? Watch a few episodes of cops. These people can't even stand straight or remember their own name. Sitting behind a dumpster passing a can between them, sitting in their own filth. Unable to recall their home address. Sorry but I thought of that one cops episode when I started reading this. Drinking will do the same eventually. I think getting kicked out of tdocs should be a wake up call that you need professional help here.

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Old Dec 02, 2015, 02:40 PM
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Well, i'll admit i have been drinking every day... It helps
Please understand that we don't have a lot of context and history to go on when trying to give you support and feedback. It would be unethical and ineffective to try to do therapy with an impaired client. Some therapists would fire their clients, but ideally, not before providing appropriate referrals to another therapist or rehab. Other therapists might cancel the appointment and instruct the client to reschedule when the client feels they can attend sober. Depending on the particulars, a therapist might try to help the client get into a detox center or hospital. A therapist might only fire a client if this boundary had been transgressed multiple times as it appears the intoxication problem is a primary need and not much can happen in the context of a standard therapy session. Best of luck and hope you can get the kind of help you need.
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Old Dec 03, 2015, 04:11 AM
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Actually i started drinking because i wanted to please that T. he used to say i was too guarded with him, so i thought drinking would have made me more like he wanted me to be. i did it and he fired me anyway, so that was not the cause of being fired. i re-started drinking (i had not for months) with the idea of it HELPING ME AND HIM AND OUR RELATIONSHIP, but it didnt work. i still havent understood why he fired me. said he would send me an explanation letter but i havent received it yet. probably i never will. but from that day on, i've started drinking every day and i cant stop. i dont know how else to face the day... i dont want to be alive and live each and every day. you know? im so sick of everything....
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