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Old Nov 15, 2019, 02:33 PM
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Physically?
I am in so much pain...
I am exhausted because I have not slept more than 2-3 hours a night for weeks now. I am sure this exacerbates the pain and vice versa.

Fern, I do believe reaching a state of relaxation (and alternate states/brain waves) can be very helpful in both managing pain (to some degree, and I will take any relief I can get) and in increasing the potential for possibly getting some additional sleep.

I have ordered a product with ingredients much like the tinctures an herbalist used to make for me. She'd made different strengths. I would use a less potent mix during the daytime and a highly potent mix at night. If I was getting hypomanic, I would use the night-time tincture during the day. Sadly, she has passed on. I have not found an herbalist so talented since.

This product has the same ingredients she had used in the tinctures she had made for me.
This is a transdermal patch and is time released so there is less likely to be a "hangover" in the morning.

This is called:Klova - Topical Sleep ZPatch. Naturally a Better Night's Sleep. I intend to try this over the weekend.
I will follow-up , sharing my experience.
I hope everyone has a healthy weekend!
I have my fingers and my toes crossed for you that the patch works! I'm sorry you lost your trusted provider. That is always hard. It is great that you were able to pick up some knowledge while you worked together.
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Old Nov 15, 2019, 08:03 PM
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I continue to feel sorry for you christina. I am sure you are so sick of this suffering.....((((HUGS)))))

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Fantastic !!
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Old Nov 15, 2019, 08:16 PM
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I hope the ultrasound goes well. How have you gotten in front of the pain in the past? It makes sense that battling it mentally will provide some relief. There are also some who believe placing your brain waves in an altered state can help. There are lots of YouTube videos on this with music and meditations. I searched 'music for pain relief'. I'm not sure if it would help and you may have already tried it. I just find that when I'm battling anything, getting my brain to change gears to move into a more relaxed state is often a solid first step.


Much love to you Christina. We all hate to see you suffering like this and want to see you feeling better soon.


Hopefully I’ll get results of Ultrasound Monday.

Ahh how do I get in front of my pain???? A lot has to do with mindfulness, meditation and sometimes just plain old anger. Lately with just one medical problem after another and then all those steroids , ugh .. I have just felt beat down so then some self pity comes into play. So I need to get rid of the self pity and mentally just get in front of the pain.

My pain is always going to be part of my life. I have zero hope that Fibro will ever been relieved fully in my lifetime. Not to mention PsA ...So I gotta work with what I have.... chronic pain , never ending insomnia and chronic fatigue..

Yep self pity has gotta go !
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Old Nov 15, 2019, 08:18 PM
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Physically?

I am in so much pain...

I am exhausted because I have not slept more than 2-3 hours a night for weeks now. I am sure this exacerbates the pain and vice versa.


Fern, I do believe reaching a state of relaxation (and alternate states/brain waves) can be very helpful in both managing pain (to some degree, and I will take any relief I can get) and in increasing the potential for possibly getting some additional sleep.


I have ordered a product with ingredients much like the tinctures an herbalist used to make for me. She'd made different strengths. I would use a less potent mix during the daytime and a highly potent mix at night. If I was getting hypomanic, I would use the night-time tincture during the day. Sadly, she has passed on. I have not found an herbalist so talented since.


This product has the same ingredients she had used in the tinctures she had made for me.

This is a transdermal patch and is time released so there is less likely to be a "hangover" in the morning.


This is called:Klova - Topical Sleep ZPatch. Naturally a Better Night's Sleep. I intend to try this over the weekend.

I will follow-up , sharing my experience.

I hope everyone has a healthy weekend!


Yeah that damn pain and no sleep we have talked a million hours late at night about that lol !

I do hope this patch helps !!!!
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Old Nov 15, 2019, 08:58 PM
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Hopefully I’ll get results of Ultrasound Monday.

Ahh how do I get in front of my pain???? A lot has to do with mindfulness, meditation and sometimes just plain old anger. Lately with just one medical problem after another and then all those steroids , ugh .. I have just felt beat down so then some self pity comes into play. So I need to get rid of the self pity and mentally just get in front of the pain.

My pain is always going to be part of my life. I have zero hope that Fibro will ever been relieved fully in my lifetime. Not to mention PsA ...So I gotta work with what I have.... chronic pain , never ending insomnia and chronic fatigue..

Yep self pity has gotta go !
You are constantly battling through so much. I pray and hope you can see how remarkably strong you are. A true warrior spirit. Inspiring and amazing!
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Old Nov 17, 2019, 01:56 PM
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My weekend of indulgence has almost come to an end. I carbed and caloried it up this weekend! Food, wine, fancy coffee drinks...feel terrible physically but it was so much fun! Back to low carb, low calorie tomorrow straight through thanksgiving. Won’t even get on a scale bc I know whatever weight I did lose just slipped right back on this weekend!
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Old Nov 17, 2019, 04:04 PM
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Can't seem to get any support on the thread i posted so will try here. I've been going to Overeaters Anonymous (OA) for ten weeks now. I've made eleven meetings. I've quit many times. Once i picked up my phone to call the chairperson to tell her i was quitting and make arrangements to get the key FOB back to her when i got a text from one of the other members and was cheered and comforted and decided to keep up with OA. I quit again on Friday after a dismal meeting but have had such a disastrous day in eating i have finally admitted that i need help, accepted that i need help and not just going to meetings but seeing my doctor for his direction on how to eat healthy and getting a sponsor for support. I really felt like i hit bottom today.
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Old Nov 17, 2019, 04:22 PM
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One might put the chilidog down if they had to sit through burping up liquid fire before they ate it...
Fern, that's hilarious! Liquid fire indeed! My guts are just recovering from six strips of bacon this morning. My stomach is soooo sensitive! I'm attracted to all the wrong foods. I just this week discovered these spicy cheesies that are just enthralling! But danger to my stomach so i threw the rest of them down the garbage chute. I miss them already. My stomach has been in turmoil this afternoon and i'm feeling pretty weak but i know now that i need help and will seek it out.

Thanks for the yuks!

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Old Nov 17, 2019, 06:15 PM
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My weekend of indulgence has almost come to an end. I carbed and caloried it up this weekend! Food, wine, fancy coffee drinks...feel terrible physically but it was so much fun! Back to low carb, low calorie tomorrow straight through thanksgiving. Won’t even get on a scale bc I know whatever weight I did lose just slipped right back on this weekend!
So glad you enjoyed your trip though. Happy anniversary!
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Old Nov 17, 2019, 06:27 PM
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Fern, that's hilarious! Liquid fire indeed! My guts are just recovering from six strips of bacon this morning. My stomach is soooo sensitive! I'm attracted to all the wrong foods. I just this week discovered these spicy cheesies that are just enthralling! But danger to my stomach so i threw the rest of them down the garbage chute. I miss them already. My stomach has been in turmoil this afternoon and i'm feeling pretty weak but i know now that i need help and will seek it out.

Thanks for the yuks!

My husband used to get the craziest heartburn. He would wake up in the night a mumble about liquid fire. He eats much better now.

I wish we could see with our eyes more quickly the effect food has on our bodies. The delay makes it all too easy to indulge and worry about it later.

You're making some good progress recognizing you want to make changes and you need support. Have you spent any time visualizing your ideal state of health? What it would look like, what it would feel like mentally emotionally and physically? Not your perfect state, but something attainable and that you could feel good about?

Sometimes it helps if we can first paint a picture for ourselves in our mind. It is a little more tangible than just having a number you're shooting for. You can then spend time each day in meditation or quiet reflection returning to this image.
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Old Nov 17, 2019, 09:00 PM
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You are constantly battling through so much. I pray and hope you can see how remarkably strong you are. A true warrior spirit. Inspiring and amazing!


Thanks so much Fern
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Old Nov 17, 2019, 10:32 PM
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Can't seem to get any support on the thread i posted so will try here. I've been going to Overeaters Anonymous (OA) for ten weeks now. I've made eleven meetings. I've quit many times. Once i picked up my phone to call the chairperson to tell her i was quitting and make arrangements to get the key FOB back to her when i got a text from one of the other members and was cheered and comforted and decided to keep up with OA. I quit again on Friday after a dismal meeting but have had such a disastrous day in eating i have finally admitted that i need help, accepted that i need help and not just going to meetings but seeing my doctor for his direction on how to eat healthy and getting a sponsor for support. I really felt like i hit bottom today.
I am sorry you felt like you hit rock bottom today.
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I hope by coming here you feel better.I am dieting and am able to stick to it for the most part. Following a low carb diet. losing about 2 pounds per week. I have about 45 more pounds to lose.
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Old Nov 17, 2019, 11:35 PM
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Began picking at 2 fingers....sigh
one has a bandaid ....

on the computer a lot today.....
had a breakfast of scrambler with smoked sausage and veggies and a side of brocolli.

left over rotiserre chicken for dinner. thigh and a leg...it was dry.
a 3 small dark chocolate pieces for dessert@! yum. did not have any sides for dinner just wanted it to be lite.
I have to say that I am snacky right now though!
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Old Nov 17, 2019, 11:49 PM
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Fern!

I have been meaning to ask you how you have been since going off Geodon ????

I hope it’s been smooth sailing
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Old Nov 17, 2019, 11:55 PM
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Began picking at 2 fingers....sigh
one has a bandaid ....
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I can't remember if I told you my skin picking solution. I used blister bandaids that are thick and seal tightly so they are hard to pick off so you don't resume picking. They really protect the skin and let it heal. Mine usually last 5-7 days. Last time I was IP I had 4-5 of them at a time; they were very nice about letting me have them. I'm trying to paste a picture of them here; we'll see if that works. It didn't but here's the google results page: blister bandaids toes - Google Search
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Old Nov 18, 2019, 07:24 AM
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Fern!

I have been meaning to ask you how you have been since going off Geodon ????

I hope it’s been smooth sailing
Thanks for checking on me Christina. I appreciate you!

I'm doing well. I had a month or so of very intense and sometimes disturbing dreams, but that seems to be back to normal. I also went through a period where certain music was triggering memories of the thoughts I was having during psychosis. I was able to process them in therapy and I've decided to stick to less activating music for a while. Luckily I was able to instantly recognize those thoughts as delusions. It basically felt like my brain was having a knee jerk reaction to the music and I need to train it to instinctively think differently by creating new experiences.

I haven't had any mood shifts that seem out of the ordinary everyday highs and lows. I've also had a couple of emotional challenges come up and I've been able to overcome them in healthy ways.

I'm still seeing my therapist every two weeks for a while longer. I'll probably go back to once a month in January. My pdoc scheduled me for one more visit in December and said I would only need to come back again if my symptoms return.

I'm still avoiding triggers and trying to stay focused on holistic health. I've been exercising and eating good foods for the most part. All in all, things are well and I feel blessed.
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Old Nov 18, 2019, 07:55 AM
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Bizi, super congrats on your weight loss and continuing sobriety. Please keep up the sobriety, my friend! My family has seen how alcohol affects lives in bad ways.

Christina, good luck with the ultrasound. I hope it happens today and the results yield some plan that helps.

Wild Coyote, I am sorry your pain has continued to be severe.
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Old Nov 18, 2019, 08:00 AM
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As of this moment, I feel OK. Yesterday my stress level was so high that the anxiety made me feel physically sick. Luckily I have Ativan. That helped. I may take another one today.

I used to have 0.5 mg Ativan pills, but can't find them anywhere. I have been taking 1 mg pills, but all of them are scattered on the bottom of my dirty pocketbook. The pill bottles my pharmacy gives have caps that come off easily. They poured out there because of that. I will go and ask for a refill soon.
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Old Nov 18, 2019, 09:16 AM
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@BirdDancer thank you for your support!
181.2 this morning.
Happy about this. The last time I weighed this was in may. 6 months ago.
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Old Nov 18, 2019, 09:22 AM
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I can't remember if I told you my skin picking solution. I used blister bandaids that are thick and seal tightly so they are hard to pick off so you don't resume picking. They really protect the skin and let it heal. Mine usually last 5-7 days. Last time I was IP I had 4-5 of them at a time; they were very nice about letting me have them. I'm trying to paste a picture of them here; we'll see if that works. It didn't but here's the google results page: blister bandaids toes - Google Search

Thank you so much!!!!! The material is great in that they stay on with washings. I have regular bandaides that do the same: skin flex.
since I use finger nail polish remover daily...I wonder how the ones you suggest would fair.
Thank you for suggesting them.
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Old Nov 18, 2019, 09:37 AM
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Thanks for checking on me Christina. I appreciate you!

I'm doing well. I had a month or so of very intense and sometimes disturbing dreams, but that seems to be back to normal. I also went through a period where certain music was triggering memories of the thoughts I was having during psychosis. I was able to process them in therapy and I've decided to stick to less activating music for a while. Luckily I was able to instantly recognize those thoughts as delusions. It basically felt like my brain was having a knee jerk reaction to the music and I need to train it to instinctively think differently by creating new experiences.

I haven't had any mood shifts that seem out of the ordinary everyday highs and lows. I've also had a couple of emotional challenges come up and I've been able to overcome them in healthy ways.

I'm still seeing my therapist every two weeks for a while longer. I'll probably go back to once a month in January. My pdoc scheduled me for one more visit in December and said I would only need to come back again if my symptoms return.

I'm still avoiding triggers and trying to stay focused on holistic health. I've been exercising and eating good foods for the most part. All in all, things are well and I feel blessed.
(((((( fern46 ))))))

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Old Nov 18, 2019, 10:29 AM
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I feel the same about you!
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Old Nov 18, 2019, 04:50 PM
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Thanks for checking on me Christina. I appreciate you!


I'm doing well. I had a month or so of very intense and sometimes disturbing dreams, but that seems to be back to normal. I also went through a period where certain music was triggering memories of the thoughts I was having during psychosis. I was able to process them in therapy and I've decided to stick to less activating music for a while. Luckily I was able to instantly recognize those thoughts as delusions. It basically felt like my brain was having a knee jerk reaction to the music and I need to train it to instinctively think differently by creating new experiences.


I haven't had any mood shifts that seem out of the ordinary everyday highs and lows. I've also had a couple of emotional challenges come up and I've been able to overcome them in healthy ways.


I'm still seeing my therapist every two weeks for a while longer. I'll probably go back to once a month in January. My pdoc scheduled me for one more visit in December and said I would only need to come back again if my symptoms return.


I'm still avoiding triggers and trying to stay focused on holistic health. I've been exercising and eating good foods for the most part. All in all, things are well and I feel blessed.


I think it’s great your catching things as they come alone.. great insight

If I remember correctly I think I had trouble with sounds after I quit Geodon.

I’m so happy for you
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Old Nov 19, 2019, 11:02 AM
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Feeling pretty good physically. I got 6 workouts in last week and I'm 2 for 2 so far this week. I still need to research a few new routines to add into the mix to push my body. I've gotten comfortable with my current rotation.

My eating has been decent, but I haven't been tracking. I feel like I need to start doing that again. Maybe I'll take that on one day this week.

Sending positive and healing vibes to everyone for as healthy a week as possible. Much love to all!
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I did very well yesterday. Today I indulged after eating barely any carbs today and had a big slice of ice cream cake for my son’s birthday. I am also going to get a sugar free mocha latte from Starbucks later on as a way to waste time between my pdoc appt and therapy appt. sugar free nonfat. Not so bad.
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