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Just showered and in clean clothes and running a load of laundry. Ive got a CD on and am reading "Wasted" by Marya Hornbacher- author of "Madness", her book on having bipolar.
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Very down today. Just got home from the fall festival at the local orchard. It was nice to have a distraction for a couple of hours. It was tough though. Not sure what the rest of the day will bring. I need to go clothes shopping for my son as his pants are too short now. I also need to bring all the winter clothes down from the attic as it is finally cool enough. But for now I’m just going to lay in bed. RS said he wants me to take a nap with him which is perfect for my depressed self.
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Old Oct 05, 2019, 12:36 PM
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Hi Miss Laura,


I am sorry you are feeling so down and so defeated.


In mentioning writing to you, I was only mentioning writing lists, which does not take the ongoing concentration of writing sentences or paragraphs.

You would not have to make a complete list all at once. You could start a list in a notelbook, for instance, and later return to the list and addo to iit?


I am not creative, either. Lol! I am an artistic moron!

Yet, I could find classes in things like "Water Color Painting," "Jewelry Making," etc. It helps me to surround myself with others who are more creative and those who are willing to teach me if I need it.


My grandmother never saw herself as "creative," in any way. I had not known her to be artistic, at all. In her 80's, she took classes on oil painting. She painted truly outstanding paintings immediately! It was amazing! It was something she could have enJOYed her entire life, if she had been open to trying sooner. She had painted a limited number of paintings before she has passed on. It would have been wonderful to have had a painting in each home, which I am sure would have been the case had she lived longer.


I'd wanted to share this story with you, so both you and I might realize we might not know where our talents might flourish until we give it earnest effort. I am guilty of feeling much the way you feel, convincing myself that I have no creative talent at all. This is likely not entirely true. We must try things in order to find our talents.


Volunteering can be a very rewarding activity! you say you like it and also say you are done with it. I find this confuising. Can you clarify?


You mention your anger.

Have you ever been able to take anger management classes?

Is your anger always there and ready to explode or does it change at times?


How does your counselor talk about your anger? Does your counselor help you to identify reasons/triggers for your anger?


What does help, even a little bit when your anger is starting to surface?


Do you know if your anger is related to a change in mood?

Some people with BP almost always feel agitated and , often angry, when they become hypomanc, for instance. Are you usually in a certain place with your mood when you feel the most anger surfacing?


Why can't you work on doing something different, or opposite, when you feel your anger surfacing? I think we can all work on doing the opposite of how we feel. We just need to be willing to try this with the true intention of following through.


When I read your post, I feel like you are giving up. I hope you will be willing to try something (again) to help yourself, out of self-love. I am sure your family does not want you to give up. The PC family wants to see you succeed, too.


I hope both you and I will try to find our creative sides. I also hope you will invest in yourself by simply listing some healthy activities you can do if/when you are feeling self-destructive..


I can only encourage you, You have to be willing to help yourself. I do hope you choose to explore more healthy actions, Miss Laura!


We are here for you!
Hey Wild Coyote,

See writing my attributes I always end up negative. I can't help it, it just happens. I have loads of notebooks with different writing in them. I was writing in a bipolar journal but gave up.

I can't draw or paint or anything. I just have nothing in me to he creative. I do sing but I'm out of key these days as it's been ages since I was in a choir. Would take it back up but going out at night now it's dark at 7pm here is scary

I use to volunteer at 3 different organisations and that just made me resent people. All I'm good for is free labour don't get me wrong I LOVE what I volunteer at now but it's only until Dec/early Jan so I'm on borrowed time. I would love to continue this one but it's out of my hands.

My anger comes and go. I turn onto myself. I don't want to hurt people with words or actions so I turn it onto myself. Never took anger classes I don't even know if we have them here??

I haven't really told my counsellor about it cause I'm ashamed. She knows I self harms. But the hour flies so quickly I struggle to fit everything in the session.

I try to just put loud music on the are happy memories for me or that I like. Doesn't work though. I end up feeling terrible.

I think it comes about when I'm swinging in the depression section. I was manic I think for over a month. This could be me coming down into a low spell.

Tbh... if it wasn't for my Twin and my Nephew i wouldn't be here I don't want my Sister to lose me I mean she's my Twin after all. I don't want my Nephew who is only 7 to have to go through anything. So giving up isn't an option but I'm still in the middle sitting on the fence in life. My head has given up but my heart hasn't.
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Old Oct 05, 2019, 12:57 PM
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Very down today. Just got home from the fall festival at the local orchard. It was nice to have a distraction for a couple of hours. It was tough though. Not sure what the rest of the day will bring. I need to go clothes shopping for my son as his pants are too short now. I also need to bring all the winter clothes down from the attic as it is finally cool enough. But for now I’m just going to lay in bed. RS said he wants me to take a nap with him which is perfect for my depressed self.
Hey Wild, I am sorry you conitnue to feel down. It's great you were able to get out to the festival. It is getting cooler here, too. Very quickly.

It is a sunny day here today, yet quite cool. I am trying to stay awake! There isso very much I need to get done!

I hope you will find your nap refreshing!
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It's been a really long day and it's only 5:10 pm.

I had the NAMI Wellness Conference today. My sister was to meet me at my house and then we'd drive, separately, there together. Well, it was about 7:50 am and I was still in bed and the doorbell rings. I'm like "Honey, who in the heck is at the door! You have to get it!" He didn't remember, either.

Well, it was my sister arrived right at the expect time, but of course I was totally clueless until he yelled up that it was my sister. I started rushing to get dressed at like 200 mph. I didn't brush my teeth or bathe/shower, I scrambled to tame my hair, I forgot to take my morning medications, and later in the day I realized I had put my underwear on backwards. Not inside out, but backwards.

Anyway, the conference had its really great moments and some that were not as good as I had hoped. During lunch I finally looked at my phone and saw that my husband texted me and a plumber called me. I mentioned here that we were having plumbing problems lately, some bad ones. However, after my speedy departure, my husband discovered that sewage was seeping through to our basement. Happy joy! He was struggling to call me to get the plumber's number, but I had silenced my phone and put it away the whole time. Hubby called my brother to get the plumber's number and Bro gave the plumber MY cell phone number. The cell phone I hadn't been checking. Long story short, hubby finally reached the plumber and the they came and kinda sorta fixed the issue. Kinda. Apparently some tree roots interfered with piping and they need to be dealt with. Hubby is saying we can shower, use the sinks, washer, and dishwasher, but if we use the toilets, we shouldn't use paper. Or at least...not flush the paper. I know. More than all of you wanted to read, but that's what we're dealing with. I could consider myself the lucky one because hubby dealt with the "mess" in my absence.

I was very tired at the end of the conference, but I promised to help them with the cleanup. It was a lot of work and I finally disappeared and headed home. I think I do feel a bit negatively affected by not having taken my morning medications. I did take an Ativan, at the least. When I dug into my pocketbook for the Ativan, I found that the pill bottle cap had come off and all of my Ativan pills were strewn on the bottom of my dirty pocketbook. I took one anyway. I'll fish them out later.

As written, there were some very nice parts of the conference, but I'm not in the right state to be mentioning them now. I'm thinking of taking my evening meds in an hour and just going to bed early.
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Old Oct 05, 2019, 04:45 PM
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Three weeks of ECT in a row. I'm feeling noticeably better now.

Even better, my doc was very pleased to receive the box of tea I had gotten her.
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Three weeks of ECT in a row. I'm feeling noticeably better now.

Even better, my doc was very pleased to receive the box of tea I had gotten her.
FANTASTIC!!!

It is great you are feeling better!!!

I never know what to choose for tea when buying for someone else, so good job!!!
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Woo it's humid out! Did errands and really worked up a sweat even tho it's only in the 50's. Stopped by the library to update my card, every year or so they want me to stop by and prove I'm a real live person using their resources. They had the friends of the library book sale today, uh oh! But I did good I bought one large print for mum and two coffee table history books for me. One on ancient history the other on history of language in USA. I coulda gotten a sack the brown paper sack and fill it for $5 but I did good and just got three books! Then I went and picked up my meds and mum's meds then picked up super, golash. Was supposed to pick up a rostering chicken but they were out, so golash. What can I say, this is Minnesotaians food.
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Nammu, when you're done with the book on language you can send it my way. I'd love it.
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Old Oct 05, 2019, 06:20 PM
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Woo it's humid out! Did errands and really worked up a sweat even tho it's only in the 50's. Stopped by the library to update my card, every year or so they want me to stop by and prove I'm a real live person using their resources. They had the friends of the library book sale today, uh oh! But I did good I bought one large print for mum and two coffee table history books for me. One on ancient history the other on history of language in USA. I coulda gotten a sack the brown paper sack and fill it for $5 but I did good and just got three books! Then I went and picked up my meds and mum's meds then picked up super, golash. Was supposed to pick up a rostering chicken but they were out, so golash. What can I say, this is Minnesotaians food.
Have you ever read the mother tongue by bill bryson? It’s the history of the English language around the world. Very interesting. One of my favorite books. I also like made in America by him. That’s the history of the English language in America. Very interesting as well.
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Have you ever read the mother tongue by bill bryson? It’s the history of the English language around the world. Very interesting. One of my favorite books. I also like made in America by him. That’s the history of the English language in America. Very interesting as well.
Oo those books sound good. I'll have to see if the library carries them.
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Took n3 and gf to the movies. Gotta pick them up and take her home.

Been reading. Had lunch with a friend. Nice conversation. I enjoyed myself.

Movie wont get out until 9:45 ish. Its gonna be 12 before Im home in pjs. But good for me: I did laundry so I have fresh pjs!

Saw my fwb. Fun. I always feel rebooted after- maybe its the shower, too?
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So I was scrolling through fb when I came upon a comment that my brother’s wife made on another person’s post. She said they’re going to be moving to the shore as soon as they can to be closer to her mom. And that really got to me. So it’s complete then. My brother will be cutting me out of his life. He’s not going to drive 45 minutes to visit me when he can’t even drive ten minutes now. And if he makes that decision you can bet my *** ain’t driving out there either.

I feel so abandoned. Like I never expected his wife to take him away from me. She was my best friend. But all of a sudden they had my niece and now my family isn’t good enough for them. I’m hurt, but it’s not even worth bringing up. The last time I did she just dismissed me and said I was being too sensitive and that he was perfectly ok with it. So if that’s how they feel then I guess that’s how they feel. It’s a real shame.

Supposedly he’s coming to our mother’s 60th birthday party in a few weeks but we will just see. They always cancel. So I won’t believe it until I see it.
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Old Oct 05, 2019, 08:25 PM
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Very down today. Just got home from the fall festival at the local orchard. It was nice to have a distraction for a couple of hours. It was tough though. Not sure what the rest of the day will bring. I need to go clothes shopping for my son as his pants are too short now. I also need to bring all the winter clothes down from the attic as it is finally cool enough. But for now I’m just going to lay in bed. RS said he wants me to take a nap with him which is perfect for my depressed self.


I’m sorry your struggling but it’s really good your still getting out ! That’s huge.

Maybe getting out your winter clothes will perk you up ??? !! I love my winter clothes, maybe because I basically wear all black with different scarves and boots. Wearing all black makes me look thinner so that’s probably why lmao !!

Does your son enjoy clothes shopping ? Or do you have to drag him? My daughter was either 100 excited or miserable mobster when she was about his age, kids lol

Hope you and RS had a good nap
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It's been a really long day and it's only 5:10 pm.

I had the NAMI Wellness Conference today. My sister was to meet me at my house and then we'd drive, separately, there together. Well, it was about 7:50 am and I was still in bed and the doorbell rings. I'm like "Honey, who in the heck is at the door! You have to get it!" He didn't remember, either.

Well, it was my sister arrived right at the expect time, but of course I was totally clueless until he yelled up that it was my sister. I started rushing to get dressed at like 200 mph. I didn't brush my teeth or bathe/shower, I scrambled to tame my hair, I forgot to take my morning medications, and later in the day I realized I had put my underwear on backwards. Not inside out, but backwards.

Anyway, the conference had its really great moments and some that were not as good as I had hoped. During lunch I finally looked at my phone and saw that my husband texted me and a plumber called me. I mentioned here that we were having plumbing problems lately, some bad ones. However, after my speedy departure, my husband discovered that sewage was seeping through to our basement. Happy joy! He was struggling to call me to get the plumber's number, but I had silenced my phone and put it away the whole time. Hubby called my brother to get the plumber's number and Bro gave the plumber MY cell phone number. The cell phone I hadn't been checking. Long story short, hubby finally reached the plumber and the they came and kinda sorta fixed the issue. Kinda. Apparently some tree roots interfered with piping and they need to be dealt with. Hubby is saying we can shower, use the sinks, washer, and dishwasher, but if we use the toilets, we shouldn't use paper. Or at least...not flush the paper. I know. More than all of you wanted to read, but that's what we're dealing with. I could consider myself the lucky one because hubby dealt with the "mess" in my absence.

I was very tired at the end of the conference, but I promised to help them with the cleanup. It was a lot of work and I finally disappeared and headed home. I think I do feel a bit negatively affected by not having taken my morning medications. I did take an Ativan, at the least. When I dug into my pocketbook for the Ativan, I found that the pill bottle cap had come off and all of my Ativan pills were strewn on the bottom of my dirty pocketbook. I took one anyway. I'll fish them out later.

As written, there were some very nice parts of the conference, but I'm not in the right state to be mentioning them now. I'm thinking of taking my evening meds in an hour and just going to bed early.


Im sorry today started off with a whirlwind of rushing out the door. That would start anyone’s day off badly.

We had a root bust through a pipe last year , we can’t ever afford to call anyone it took us almost 5 days !!!! To dig to it , we live on top of a ridge so our ground is like cement. We had to use hatchets and a pic ax, was terrible. Yup big ole tree root busted right into the pipe.

I hope your problem is completely solved and you can go about your day.

Did your sister like your new hair color??

I hope you get a good deep night sleep.
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Three weeks of ECT in a row. I'm feeling noticeably better now.

Even better, my doc was very pleased to receive the box of tea I had gotten her.


So glad it’s helping!!
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Woo it's humid out! Did errands and really worked up a sweat even tho it's only in the 50's. Stopped by the library to update my card, every year or so they want me to stop by and prove I'm a real live person using their resources. They had the friends of the library book sale today, uh oh! But I did good I bought one large print for mum and two coffee table history books for me. One on ancient history the other on history of language in USA. I coulda gotten a sack the brown paper sack and fill it for $5 but I did good and just got three books! Then I went and picked up my meds and mum's meds then picked up super, golash. Was supposed to pick up a rostering chicken but they were out, so golash. What can I say, this is Minnesotaians food.


Sounds like a good day!! Send some of that cooler weather to me , please
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So I was scrolling through fb when I came upon a comment that my brother’s wife made on another person’s post. She said they’re going to be moving to the shore as soon as they can to be closer to her mom. And that really got to me. So it’s complete then. My brother will be cutting me out of his life. He’s not going to drive 45 minutes to visit me when he can’t even drive ten minutes now. And if he makes that decision you can bet my *** ain’t driving out there either.


I feel so abandoned. Like I never expected his wife to take him away from me. She was my best friend. But all of a sudden they had my niece and now my family isn’t good enough for them. I’m hurt, but it’s not even worth bringing up. The last time I did she just dismissed me and said I was being too sensitive and that he was perfectly ok with it. So if that’s how they feel then I guess that’s how they feel. It’s a real shame.


Supposedly he’s coming to our mother’s 60th birthday party in a few weeks but we will just see. They always cancel. So I won’t believe it until I see it.


I’m sorry he’s moving

Maybe you guys can make plans to meet in the middle for lunch or dinners every few weeks???
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Well another day of just laying in bed too long, meh! My pain level is up so it’s hard to want to get up and move when I finally find a more comfortable position.

Headed to finish my grocery shopping and there were totally out of chicken breasts !!!! Gah ! They were on sale and I did wait until Saturday afternoon to go so .... Doh!! my husband has to head to town this week he can just grab it for me then.

Everything still tastes like tinfoil, even tho I’m wanting to eat all the time, I take a bite and I’m like ... nope !

I have 5 days left of steroids, I think they are kicking in .. half the elephant is off my chest. I’m not sure if I can finish them all, I’ll do the best I can.

I feel like I’m getting stuck in my head a bit. It’s the right time of year for me to “ wobble “ and I am Med free so I need to pay close attention in general but this could just be the Prednisone playing it’s mind games.

Finally we are getting rain in the next couple days, temps won’t be 96-99 each day !!! Rain will wash this terrible pollen out of the air. I’m so ready for fall. I want to sit outside on my porch in the cool air !

Hope everyone finds something that brings them happiness or joy this weekend
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Old Oct 05, 2019, 10:06 PM
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@christina its been low 60s here the last few days. Very Fall-ish. But don't wish you had this weather- you will be in the 60's when we are at 40 below with windchill!
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Old Oct 05, 2019, 10:57 PM
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I am doing well again!! I feel good! I need to sleep now! Have a great day, everybody!
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@christina its been low 60s here the last few days. Very Fall-ish. But don't wish you had this weather- you will be in the 60's when we are at 40 below with windchill!


Yes I could not handle the severe winters you have up there. We seldom get snow, Hell 3 inches of snow orca but of ice would shut my lil town down. We have been stuck at home many times. They do nothing for any of the roads and certainly not way out where I live lol

I just want to wear jeans and not die of a heat stroke Hahaha !
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s everyone...
So many wishful good thoughts to everyone.

Checking in.. I will try to be short.

I found a t recently, that I will see again next Friday.
I will try best to stick with her.. I hope we continue to click,..
It was a very impulsive appt booking, but I think it's a good thing that I checked in with someone. I was very scattered.

Today has been very odd. .. I can't sleep again... well the last two weeks or so have been sleeping much and been "off ".

I reread a note sent to a coworker, they replied that hope that I get some well deserved and needed vacation time... I wrote g/jibberish utter g/jibberish to them and I know in that moment those "nonsense words made sense".
Emails like That along with many moments of incoherent speech at work the Last week , has had me concerned.

I am thankful for kindness... i am thankful for understanding but realize it only goes so far.

I go on a trip tomorrow, in state.
I had booked something a few months ago.. and now it's hours away of departing. I do have worries that I'll ruin this. Or something will go wrong.

My friend (my ex and I want to stop calliing him that) will be going with me. He will drive.

I have felt pressured for time in a lot of sense, and been trying to as much done, but also checking in to remind myself it may not be possible and things will fall in place-- life isn't perfect - prioritize if I can. just reality of it all, along with my own delays of scattered and jumbled and blank moments.
I felt like I dissociated or something today while outside..things just didn't seem real and too much going on. I spent time in my room, which is a quiet and safe space. That helped a lot.

And now i am here babbling

I got my elementary records also, (as I was looking into brain mapping).
I was going to submit a thread to ask a question but keep editing it. Idk if I will submit it.

My elementary school records, they had a handicap of perceptual communication disorder ((I think/recall right now at least)) something I hadn't read on before.
I sent the paper work to my new t and will try to remember to ask her if she may give me some help on understanding...
I hadn't known this about me.. my parents.. they just had/have their own issues.

I've always been thankful for teachers in my life and now I am realizing even more on why.... I think it's good to recognize too, because their kindness probably helped me out so much.
I have been aware as an adult, that a lot of times I dont process information like others, but I try... or try best to.
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Old Oct 06, 2019, 02:41 AM
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I have finished cleaning up and waxing the floors of the kitchen, living room, and bathroom. I am now clearing the front bedroom. I am thinking of removing the bed and making it into sort of a den. I may need to replace the carpeting. I also will spray for bed bugs tomorrow. I am selling another camera lens. This one I had to attach it to my computer to configure correctly. Then I am done with selling stuff,

I have decided to not stress out over the debts that I owe. I have made myself a budget. As long as I stick to it, my situation will not become worse. The State is going through legal action to collect what .I owe them. Their first attempt will be to collect any tax refund I would normally get from the IRS. I pay no taxes. So I say good luck to them on this, Hopefully, by then, I will be able to pay it off.

So much going on in my life! My daughter was mean to me because I would not give her allot of cash to pay for her legal costs on being arrested. I told her to give me the name and amounts for each check that I will write for this purpose, from her spendthrift trust. I do not trust her entirely with large amounts of money. She has manipulated money out of both me and her spendthrift trust in the past. Never again. She should feel fortunate that I am helping her with those expenses,

I am now taking CBD that actually works. So I am not doing too badly right now. I want to start running again. Exercise helps me allot. The dogs right now is a PITA, as a puppy can be. She ruined another $45 of my stuff. So its up to well over a thousand dollars now. Boy, have I been learning the hard way.

Update:

My daughter had just messaged me that she has lied to me. She now tells me that she is having trouble paying for her rent this month. I told her I will only help her this time, but only if she shows me a budget that she has put together that she will follow. I do not know if this is a lie too, but I think she may be telling me the truth this time.
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I wrote about some of the things that went wrong yesterday, but there were a few things that were quite memorable in a positive way. I'll start the day with them.

Going to conferences relating to mental health issues is quite rewarding. Just as gathering here at PC gives many a sense of community, going to conferences and seeing others face-to-face who deal with mental illness, drives home that we are not alone. I could only attend two of the workshops, but all of them were relevant to most everyone. I heard sad stories with hopeful ends. Learned about some new science and how NAMI, and others, are still fighting for more mental health coverage parity. Saw a marvelous dance performance of about 12 ladies that made me cry. One dancer described much of how I feel about emotional release and healing. I wish I had had the chance to talk to her afterwards.

I was happy to spend a nice day with my sister.

While helping to clean up after the event, I had the unique experience to work together with a very interesting man. I'm pretty sure he had a diagnosis. What it is, I'm not sure. My guess is that he had schizophrenia. He was an extremely positive gentleman who spoke one brilliant clang association after another. They were so amazing they bordered on genius.
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