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I had a pdoc appointment yesterday and struggled with whether to tell him something. I took 14mg (usual dose is 2mg) and vodka one day last week . Not any kind of attempt, I just had to make all the noise stop.
Anyway, since he's primarily dealing with medication management, I know I probably should have mentioned it, but I really didn't want him to stop prescribing. Should I have told him? I just want some opinions.
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i think it would have been appropriate perhaps, yeah. But if it was just one day i suppose it is nothing too major, i think? In any case i think you can bring it up next time or perhaps even sending him a mail if you still want to tell him, i think. If you start to not feel too well these days i'd say definitely contact him and mention this to him. Your choice, i think. Sending many Safe, warm hugs to BOTH you, @Jester's Rags, your Family, your Friends and ALL of your Loved Ones! Keep fighting and keep rocking NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS, OK?!
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I've been in a similar situation, although alcohol wasn't involved. I'm sure you know how dangerous it is to take that much benzo with alcohol. Keep in mind that a lot (most?) overdoses aren't intentional. It must be a truly awful feeling to accidentally OD and as you're sliding away, know there's absolutely nothing you can do to stop what's happening.
Anyway, should you tell your pdoc...I didn't tell mine when I've taken a few too many pills (benzos). Should you tell...I suppose the answer is Yes. But yeah, the doctor is liable to pull your Xanax. Either that, or only prescribe a small number at a time. I guess the main question is, will you do it again?
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I often take 2.5-3.5 mil of Xanax a day and I’m only supposed to be on 2mil. I’ve tried cutting up the 2mil into four .5s. So I can take it throughout the day. Some days that works some days it doesn’t.
My Pdoc doesn’t know a thing about my issue. I’ve been getting questions from other medical workers though.
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btw, 14mg. is A LOT.
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Nodding out permanently is a definite danger, but choking on one's own vomit is perhaps a greater danger if large amounts of alcohol & benzos are consumed. I don't know if you have a therapist, or not, but I'd discuss this issue with him/her. In my experience, hospitalization isn't very helpful, but if you think you might repeat this pattern, I'd take the risk of hashing out what happened. Stay with us & post more if you want the "noise to stop."
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^^^ Yes ^^^
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be well.
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I'm ashamed to say I've done similar in the not so distant past. For me it wasn't a suicide attempt either, just a way to escape into nothingness for a while and a lack of caring about what might happen. It was very out of character for me, never did anything like it before and haven't since. I think it might have been related to my starting Seroquel shortly before that.
Anyway, I did tell my Pdoc. He did not pull my meds. I think because he knows this was out of character for me and I am usually very responsible with meds, so he gave me another chance. I think it very much depends on your relationship with your Pdoc, whether you trust them enough to tell them that and they trust you enough to not overreact (even though this is of course a serious thing). |
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Possible trigger:
I have other scary stories about me combining alcohol and psych meds. Two others that are even scarier. Just horrible! I'm lucky that I am alive and didn't go to jail, at any point. A lot of the famous people we know, who died young, died from combining substances. Most didn't intend to pass away. Think Jimmy Hendricks, John Belushi, Jim Morrison, Janis Joplin, Marilyn Monroe, Heath Ledger, Whittney Houston, and many more, plus so many non-famous people. Last edited by Soupe du jour; Mar 24, 2021 at 02:32 AM. |
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@FluffyDinosaur
I didn't think myself capable either. It's incredible what illness can make us do. It's incredible how substances can affect us. Also, I learned that a certain amount that maybe didn't affect us severely one time, could another. I am also still taking some of the psych medications I took during the incidents I mentioned. One that absolutely played a part in the story I wrote about. I'm so happy we both survived these events. ![]() |
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I didn't mention it to my pdoc when I saw him, and I don't think I'll mention it in the future unless I do it again. I've actually given my wife my prescription and asked her to give them to me when I'm supposed to take them. She's been giving me my 2mg/day like I'm supposed to take. She said that if I do this again, she's going to call an ambulance as I was pretty out of it. I lost a day and a half. I just don't remember anything. She said my son (20) checked on me every hour to make sure I was still breathing. I really feel terrible about it. Thanks for the comments. It's comforting to hear from others who understand.
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I've survived several incidents that went down precisely like those that have been shared. One thing that strikes me is the overwhelming sense of humiliation I felt in the ER after the charcoal treatments. This thread reminds me that such defeats can be used as a tool to achieve stability. Thank you Jester's Rags, & everyone who put their stories out there.
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You should have, because you could have killed yourself (and, TBH, it sounds like you wanted to), or it could have led to other harm. Can you control yourself not to do it again, and to only take your normal dose? If not, you need to let your pdoc know you're struggling with your emotions and resisting taking more meds than you're supposed to.
Do you have that much extra medicine? Are you skipping a lot of doses? Or would you run out soon? Either way, you should be taking what your pdoc prescribes. If you feel you need more, or another med, talk to him/her. There are other Therapies you can try, too, like journaling, art, meditation, listening to calming music, watching ASMR videos, etc. Sent from my SM-N975U1 using Tapatalk
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Good post.
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I guess I could have died. Another pill, another swig of alcohol and who knows what happens. I don't know what a fatal dose of Xanax is. I obviously can't control myself ![]() ![]() I don't have extra meds. Boy was I hurting for the rest of the month until I was due for a refill.
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I'm retracting my original post. I strongly believe you should speak with your pdoc about the possible OD episode.
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I don’t have a therapist. I’ve tried a few times but never felt comfortable with them.
@BethRags Thank you for your concern. I’m still kicking around the idea of sending him an email. “Hi. I took a bunch of pills and alcohol last week. Hope you have a good day”. I joke because I’m uncomfortable. This wasn’t the fist time and I hope it is the last. But sometimes when you get into that place. That out of control place, anything is possible.
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Yes, there's some part of you that is flirting with death. Please, please, JR- speak with your psychiatrist.
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I meant to post to this earlier. I too have done what the original poster has done. I took a handful of xanax and I think sprinkled in some seroquel in there for fun. I just wanted the noise to stop as well. At that time, it was too much to deal with. I luckily woke up the next day, I realized I was in bad shape and called 911. Once they busted in my house, I couldn't tell you what happened after that, I passed back out. At any rate, I post this to say that I know that feeling and what you went through. It's not like you wanted to die, but you did what you felt made sense in the moment. I haven't been able to have a xanax prescription since, except one time I was able to talk a nurse practitioner at my doctor's office into giving me one, but I just had the one bottle bc I eventually found a psychiatrist and started taking this illness seriously. Plus every doctor that I have had since isn't exactly fond of benzos unless absolutely necessary. What you did was a mistake. Was it stupid, yes, but you know that. I hope you are able to find some peace with what happened and can become a stronger person bc of it. Please take care and continue to reach out here for continued support.
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I had an appointment with my doc today and told him about my mini OD. He was obviously concerned and asked a bunch of questions. Why did you do it. How much. Will you do it again. Can I trust you with your prescription.
Bottom line is he’s still prescribing it for me, and my wife is holding and doling out my Xanax for me. Between the promise I made to him and the one I made to my wife, hopefully I’ll be strong enough next time I consider it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Good for you! I know it takes a lot of courage to tell a pdoc about such an event. I think you are smart and brave. And strong enough not to take such a dangerous chance again.
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I took a handful of klonopin once. I know i ended up in the er but they didn’t make me drink charcoal (not until the second od on doxepin a week later) or anything. But they kept me in. Their psych ER alllll night. Then they gave me my stuff back and discharged me. I was in a huge city, downtown with no money or way home. I eventually got ahold of my sister who came. We both live an hr from that hospital. I don’t remember that night really and all I know is I wandered around the city confused and exhausted.
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