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Old Oct 03, 2003, 06:31 PM
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I feel guilty and I am for saying the wrong words, for doing the wrong things, for not answering my phone, for telling people I will not be home because I don't want them to visit me or go anywhere with them, for not wanting to go to work when I need too, for forgetting to do something, for not cleaning enough the house, for being on my computer, for not giving enough of my time to people, for writing this instead of supporting you all, for just breathing. Guilty as charge!

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Old Oct 03, 2003, 09:34 PM
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Aaawgh, (((((((((((((Never Forgotten))))))))))))))) = guilt is 'the gift that keeps on giving' isn't it, my friend? I wish so much that we never felt guilt, except when we have actually done something wrong... None of the things about which you speak are something about which you should feel guilty, but that doesn't change the feelings I know... The thing is that guilt feelings are, for the most part, wasted energy, (but this doesn't mean you should feel guilty about feeling guilty - guilty)... What do you think causes you to feel so guilty about things? Is there someway to stop those feelings once they start? Hugs for you, ((((((((((Never Forgotten))))))))))) = I think you are a very special person!! Most Fondly, Peanut

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Old Oct 03, 2003, 10:32 PM
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Don't allow yourself to feel guilty, this is a natural thing that many people go through, sometimes we all need a break from phones, housecleaning ( we all need break from that) and maybe we need to temporarily withdraw ( a tad) from friends and/or family for our own breathing space.
If you spend time on the computer, that's alright too, it is safe and your not harming anyone, not even yourself.
forgoten, just be open to these feelings, relax, don't be hard on yourself, don't feel guilty, it just may be the time right now that you need "forgoten time", time for yourself.
Drop the guilt and enjoy yourself, your time to do, go or not go when and where you want.
Now, for not wanting to got work? That is a hard one, it is a neccesity for many but don't feel guilty about not wanting to go to work either.
Just take this time off from the busy world, relax, guilt free
Take care,
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Old Oct 04, 2003, 04:25 AM
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Sending you the BIGGEST hug ever.
There is nothing wrong with taking time for you. So maybe you are neglecting some things right now but that's ok. Sometimes we gotta do that. The important things will still be there for you to take care of when you feel better.

The most important thing is that you take care of you and do what you need to do. If you take care of you first you will have so much more to give and it will be easier.
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Old Oct 04, 2003, 04:41 AM
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Thank you all so much! I will take all of you to work with me today.

The feeling of guilt, I bring to myself, but sometime people surronding me brings it to me. Then those time, I feel I'm nothing. When someone tells me my house is not enough clean, I haven't put enough time making the meals, when I forgot to mail a letter, said the wrong words at the wrong time or didn't say the right words, I shoudm't be tired because it was my day off, those things gets to me. Even if I try not to feel guilty, its still hit target. Now, I'm crying for writing this. Why? Because I'm stupid that's probably why. Yes, I do need time off, time by myself, time to escape. Just disapear.

Thank you! Have a nice day!
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Old Oct 04, 2003, 08:48 AM
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Don't cry sweetie. It sounds like people are putting pressure on your to be something "they" expect you to be. You don't have to be that. Be yourself and do the best you can. Thats all you can do.

At the end of the day things like a clean house, perfect meals or forgetting to mail something doesn't really matter. Those are just every day tasks that need to be done.

Do they do and say everything just right? Do you let it slide when they make mistakes? You deserve the same from them.

You are NOT stupid. I used to think I was stupid. Got told I was enough growing up. Then one day I realized I wasn't stupid and I began doing things differently. I involved myself in life more. Friends, work, learning. People have since told me that I am wise, one of the smartest people they know etc. I don't take those huge compliments to heart. I am no rocket scientist but I am not stupid either. I can do alot if I put my mind to it. I do what I can, what I'm good at. I try my best with what I am not so great at and some stuff I just stay away from. (Anything that plugs in!)

Don't be so hard on yourself. I have a good feeling youre not stupid either :O)

I hope you get some time off, time to yourself. Everyone needs and DESERVES that. Including you.

Should be fun to go to work with you. I'll try to stay out of the way and not giggle to much so you don't get in trouble :O)

Hugs,
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Old Oct 04, 2003, 10:53 AM
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{{{{{{{{{{{{Forgotten}}}}}}}}}}}}}}} Maybe the guilt you feel is your depression talking... and a lot of the way we were raised. We were taught to think of others first, to be polite, to be socially acceptable. It would be a good idea if we can do it. It's been my experience that to be all the things above and more, you need to take care of yourself FIRST!! If you need to be alone, be alone. If you don't want to see or talk to anyone, do it. You are taking care of your needs. guilty

You're a sweet, caring, thoughtful person. Be that way to yourself, too, ok? guilty

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Old Oct 04, 2003, 02:40 PM
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Forgoten (but you aren't, you know),

September has it right. We have to take care of ourselves before we can take care of everybody else. Sometimes we give away everything we have and don't leave any left for ourselves, and then there is nothing to give to others anymore either. That, and feeling bad because everybody wants you to be the way they think you should be, instead of being true to yourself, are things that depression does to us. Or that's why we get depressed. It's a vicious circle. The way to break it is to take care of yourself no matter what anyone else might think.

There's a system that I've mentioned here before but it was before you were here. It has helped me a lot, with keeping the house clean and also with fighting all those thoughts and messages that come from other people and also from ourselves that make us feel guilty. You might want to take a look at <A target="_blank" HREF=http://flylady.net>http://flylady.net</A>.

{{{hugs}}}
Wendy

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Old Oct 04, 2003, 06:05 PM
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Thank you so much. You are all so special!

I will read your replies over and over again.
(((((((((((((((To all)))))))))))))) Please take good care!

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