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Old May 24, 2012, 05:32 PM
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but I don't have the will to kill myself.

......
I can't justify in my mind the pain I would cause people by doing it.
not yet.

but i'm so tired. of everything.
nothing gets better in life.
Here is hell and on my own I'll just have to do the same thing I've been doing.
living for the next step.
all of school it was to get to college.
in college it'll be to get a good job.
at a job (likely not good thanks to this economy) to retire.
and once retired, we're too old to properly enjoy life anymore.
not to mention i'm deathly afraid of aging.
i don't want to look like that.
i don't want to be alone and see no one else around me anymore.
and have no one to count on.
and no one to love.
and no one to Hold.

there'll always be pain. and there'll always be hurt. and there'll always be people who are too wrapped up in their own lives to spare a thought.
And no mood booster of any kind can change that.
solitude. silence. pain. lonely. will continue.
words can play a minor part in affecting this, but touch is crucial.
without touch it's psychologically proven that we degrade mentally.

I just wish i were dead.
because the only reasons i've been living for these last 6 years.
drain me more than anything else.

If this world weren't so f-cked up maybe it wouldn't be so bad.
but it is.
and i'm so far beyond tired that i can't begin to express it right now.
i just wish that it would end.
and that i when i went to sleep, someday soon, I wouldn't wake up.
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Silent, you just said almost word for word the same things that go through my head everyday!
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...
you would think something like this would have a little more feedback from the community.

Just because I said I won't yet... of the 90-something people who have viewed thus-far only 2 had it in their heart to comment..

I thank you two..

and I apologize for my mild outlash.

I don't feel particularly well.
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(((TheSilentEmpath))) - so sorry you're feeling tired, discouraged and depressed. I understand that tired of life feeling and for me the monotony of life is dragging me down. When you're feeling stronger - can you think about finding a hobby you love or something that would stir some passion? I pray you feel relief soon.
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I feel the same way. So over it and with no end in sight, I don't know how much longer I can go on like this. Sorry, that wasn't very encouraging but I don't know what else to say.
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You may want to end. But some people dream about living a life like yours.
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I'm so sorry for your feelings. That sounds very familiar to me. I dunno what i should say to help you, I only hope that you're doing better soon.
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TheSilentEmpath, please don't feel ignored because people haven't commented on your post. Most people that visit the depression threads are so beaten down by their own depression that to respond to someone else in pain would be a major effort on their part.

I'm so sorry to hear that life is so difficult, so painful for you that you would think about ending your life. I'm bipolar, and when I am in depression, just getting through the next minute is an effort, never mind trying to find a reason to stay alive. I know what it's like to live in the pits of h*e*l*l, to making an effort simply to raise your head off the pillow. I've been hospitalized eight times over the last six years for SU, the last time 2 years ago. That's when I finally started getting better.

I won't give you a Pollyanna story about how my life is so wonderful now and that everything is great. It still sucks on occasion - I'm still bipolar - going through a bad depression right now. Difference is I know how to fight it, how to cope with it, and I know that I won't always be depressed, that it will get better. It took six years of therapy and a s**tload of different meds until we finally found what worked.

Guess what I'm trying to say is don't ever give up. I'm 58 and I suffered with moods and depression all my life - wasn't diagnosed until I was 53. Hopefully it won't take you that long . Do you see a T or a pdoc? Ever considered a change in meds, or am I just asking stupid questions that have been asked a zillion times already?

You're in my thoughts and prayers - please be gentle with yourself
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I understand how you feel. I've been depressed nearly my whole life, right now I'm going through a bad episode and it's been hard to find a reason to keep going. I wish I knew what to say to take away your suffering, everyone's suffering, but all I can say is that you're not alone. I wish you the best

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TheSilentEmpath,

I registered and became a member, just so I could post a reply. So firstly, in a way I can see some of your perspective. The pain others feel is a personal experience, so I won't sit here at my computer and pretend I know exactly how you feel, but I'll tell you this - I have similar thoughts.

Lately I have become so destitute that I had to sell my only car to be able to pay off some debts. It's the last few inches before rock bottom, let me tell you. I'm currently living with my parents (AGAIN) and I'm writing to you from a 12x12' room, with no windows, and is constantly cold. I feel like I'm in a grave.

But I've felt that way most of my life.

At one point, I was a happy kid. I used to try and befriend other kids at school, I sang along to the Bluegrass music that poured out of the front room of my parents' house. I remember days that were bright, exciting... I felt like every single day was this great adventure. That was about to change.

I traced how my trajectory was altered to a single event in 2nd grade. Yep, I feel like a bit of a baby / dipsh*t when I say that, but it's true. This kid (a boy, let's call him X), who was incredibly jealous of me for whatever reason, got some other friends of his together and formed a circle around me. They started throwing rocks. I was so traumatized, that I ran directly into the classroom from the playground and told the teacher immediately what happened. She was dismissive.

This dumbfounded me. In a way, it sent me the message that "It doesn't matter to anyone if bad things happen to you". I was crushed. And from that point forward, it got harder and harder to be happy.

I started gaining weight - and as we all know, being the fat kid in school was, well, really fun to be (ahem). My parents had screaming matches daily, so I hid in cabinets and closets of my house, staring into the darkness... or letting my eyes focus on the light that came from the gap between the door and the floor. My days soon became a "Goundhog Day" of sorts. By day, I would endure constant teasing at school, and by night, I would be screamed at by one if not both of my parents.

I spent a lot of time singing songs to myself. I thought that if I came up with a catchy tune, that maybe, just maybe, I'd be happy for a while and I could maybe find a friend again. I spent a lot of time sitting alone on the playground, watching the other kids play. No one really wanted to play with me, as I was toxic to the rep of other kids. When new kids moved to town, I would befriend them quickly, in hopes that I could build a resistance. They learned quickly - make friends with me, and you're as big of an outcast as I was.

My only real solace came in music. My father worked at a manufacturing plant that made records, so from time to time, as a perk of his job, my Dad was allowed to take home a copy of an album from a small list of albums that were slated for meltdown otherwise. For me, it was magical. My friends became the Stray Cats, Michael Stanley Band, George Thorogood, The Cars, J. Geils Band - you name it, I was listening to it - and way before any of the kids at school even knew who these artists were. These albums became my friends.

My solitude didn't subside. It grew. I would jump off the bus, go to my room, and stay there the remainder of the day, listening. Sometimes I would go outside, sometimes I rode my bike. But it was party of one, all the time. I had two brothers, but since they quickly distanced themselves from me at school, that gave them an immunity of sorts from my toxic reputation.

My Grandmother on my father's side was the one person in my life that was constantly positive. I never heard her complain, unless it was about one of "Those dumb Democrats". She was a constant calming force in my life, and I loved her more than I had ever loved anyone. She was diagnosed with advanced malignant colon cancer in 1988. I spent my entire Christmas break from school there at her house, talking to her, listening... stories about the Great Depression, and how life was many years before I was born. I was fascinated.

The day my Grandmother died, my father's brother and sister came to town and went to the Hospital. I was strictly forbidden from going to see her. As I sat in my room, playing my copy of "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band", I received notice from my cousin sobbing at the top of the stairs that she had died. As the needle of my turntable passed through the final minute of "She's Leaving Home", I felt the most intense pain I had ever felt in my entire life. The final work had been done. I was now shackled to an unimaginable demon. A demon I call "My other me".

MOM. No pun was intended, but ironically my demon and my mother had things in common. They both told me I would "dig ditches for th rest of my life". They both ignored any sort of sadness, and told me to "straighten up". I was, after all, not supposed to be acting this way. I had no reason to. It was simply illogical to both my Mother and MOM.

My Demon naturally persisted into High School. I started listening to Metal, and truckloads of it. My favorites were Megadeth and Slayer, because Megadeth knew my pain and knew that life had completely lost it's meaning (In My Darkest Hour) and Slayer knew how genuinely ****ed this World was to me (Raining Blood, Angel of Death, War Ensemble). By this time I spent all of my time alone. I had friends, but they were friends that liked the "loose cannon" they saw before them. The were rebelling as a rite of passage. I was brewing a monster below the surface. MOM became "The Shape" after I saw John Carpenter's Halloween.

No, I didn't become a murderer. Many times I thought about lashing out at the World that had abandoned me, something that Social Worker after Social Worker tried like hell to change, but to no avail. I had built the perfect system in my head. All that time spent alone, listening, turned me into a brilliant social engineer. I started turning kids against each other at school. I started filling the school computer system full of games and other obviously bad things (viruses, porn). I had taught myself how to use a computer after my Grandmother died as a way to escape, and I quickly became so good at it that I was programming circles around my Computer Class teacher.

The Shape followed me everywhere I went. It told me that my girlfriend was cheating, until my paranoia drove her to that end. It told me that I didn't matter, so I would sometimes binge so much that I would throw up and then go back for more. When I turned 21, it told me that alcohol was the answer, so I drank until I blacked out. Everywhere I went, The Shape was right there... ready. Willing. Able.

I guess what caused me to confront it once and for all was two years ago. I had a fiancee who had a child. I raised that boy from age two to age six, and all the while I felt his love, and it made The Shape recoil, each and every time. His brown eyes would stare into mine and ask me "Are you my Daddy?" I would answer "What do you think?".

"Yes!" he would say with that excitement that I remembered having all those years ago.

And one day, after a night of heavy partying with her "friend", my fiancee came in and told me I had 12 hours to leave and take my things with me. I was not allowed to see or say goodbye to her son, who she left with her Mother that day.

The shape came roaring back to life with a furiosity. I was soon drinking a half of a bottle of Jim Beam daily. I was in the abyss. I was lost. Gone. Anything that was in me had died.

And then something really weird happened. Something that I didn't even think was possible. As I sat alone, watching the ball drop on another New Years' Eve, I heard someone on television joke about 2012 being the "Last Year on Earth for everyone". And I don't know what about that set it in motion, but I cycled from depression, to rage, to melancholy, and then...

Quiet.

The silence in my head was deafening. I walked outside, and I stood there. The Midwest night air was a slight, gentle but cold breeze. And it was... silent. It was so quiet, inside and out, that my ears actually started ringing slightly.

Empath, I don't know what happened. I really don't know. But somehow, dome grand being - God, aliens, Jimmy Hoffa, who knows - plopped an unspeakable gift in my lap. Silence.

And I thought about it. This pain, this demon... The Shape that had followed, taunted me, tormented me all these years, was in my control.

I had it wrong the whole time! For years, I thought I was a feather being tossed about a raging river, at the mercy of what came around the bend. But that had now changed. So I vowed to do something. I vowed that night that I would spend every last drop of blood, every last gasp of air, fighting this son of a ***** tooth and nail. I would give him the fear, the paranoia, the unspeakable horror that he gave me all those years.

And today, I fight.

I can't pretend that my life is perfect. And despite therapy, calls to suicide hotlines from payphones at 3AM, medications, alcohol, drugs, self-mutilation and a slew of outbursts and drama, I knew that it had gotten to that point in the movie where the winning assault was to be launched.

To this day, I have lost 70 pounds since that New Year's eve. I'm sober. I'm making music again. And I'm actually excited again. Why? Because I remembered. I remembered what made me feel like I felt all those years ago. I remembered that it was me who was the funny one, the happy one, to one who cared about others. Suddenly The Shape was manageable.

To this day, that sick piece of crap sits in solitary confinement. I have him well contained. I watch MSNBC on Friday nights (for the Lockup shows) because I want to remind myself that The Shape now lives in despair, NOT ME.

Like just about anyone that has suffered the trauma of a life of crippling depression (which trust me, I left a lot of stuff out of this story, as I could have filled a freakin' book), I have scars. I have the memories of those rocks striking my skull, my body. I have the scars on my knuckles as I pounded my fists into bloody swollen mounds in fits of anger and despair. I have the eyes that used to look into the mirror with unbridled rage - but now look and muster something that feels incredibly foreign each and every time it happens - a smile.

I have wanted, begged, prayed for death many times, Empath. And I told this story for two reasons:

1. I want you to know that pain is manageable. You can manage it. You are it's warden. It is your prisoner, not the other way around.

and

2. I want you to know that even though everything in your World may fall away, one thing will remain unwavering. My love for people like you. People who know what demons like The Shape are all about.

I don't know you, I know. But I know that death isn't the answer. The answer is the fight. You have to fight, fight, fight like general fu--ing Patton until the demon cowers in the corner in a puddle of p-ss with a snot bubble in it's nose.

In in the silence that comes in the wake of your fight, you fill it with sweet, sweet music. And you remember...

You remember the magic.

Love,
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Old May 29, 2012, 09:28 AM
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JustAnotherDay, what an awesome story! You have an absolute gift for putting words together. When I came to the end of your post, I wanted your story to keep going I was that fascinated. You really ought to think about writing a book someday.
Thank you for a truly inspiring post, and welcome to PC! Please keep posting - we could use your optimistic look on life here in the community
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TheSilentEmpath I feel like you often. Ive felt numb and like I am just living for no real reason, but at the same time I cannot see myself killing myself, at least not yet. I still feel that maybe there is a small chance I can find some happiness in my life eventually, even though at the moment and for most of my life Ive been consistently unhappy. I dont have any real friends and don't feel as if I have ever had a real friend. Just people who used me or didnt really care about me. I think if I was truly alone, and didn't have my immediate family that cared about me, I might be able to go through with killing myself. At least for now, I wouldn't be able to kill myself, knowing how it would effect my family. But I am just sick of going on and being miserable and just having your own family to talk to doesn't feel like enough. Im so sick of being lonely, but feel like I am too messed up to not be this way.

So I dont really have any advice. I am just in a similar situation. I dont know what my life's purpose is, if I will be happy, or if I will one day decide my life isnt worth living anymore. I am just confused and plodding along aimlessly for now. For now Ive just tried getting some enjoyment out of hobbies and small things in life like eating meals and things. I just feel really overwhelmed with anger and sorrow some days and it's very hard to deal with. Ive been in therapy for seveal months but dont feel much better. Am going to just say what the hell and try an antidepressant soon. Perhaps, theres something ****ed up in my brain making me unhappy. I guess I just haven't given up totally yet. Im still trying and hoping to make myself happy. I feel like I cannot give up and make such a permanent decision like killing myself until Ive tried all my options to turn things around. I do wish I was dead most days, but dont have the courage or the selfishness (since it will affect my family) to go through with it yet.
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To Everyone in Pain and how to live in it?

I just want to say that I feel like this alot. In fact for months now (cant even remember when it got this bad), I have been very very down and feeling the way you feel Empath.

It is so very hard. I have major depression and no drugs, experimental or otherwise have worked for 30 years; neight has therapy.

I have felt better than this. Not great .. not heappy but better and "better" looks really great to me right now. I am praying for "better". And even though I say I have felt better,, it is hard to remember that.

Can anyone relate to this? Does anyone have any methods of coping when you are so bad off, you can hardly get out of bed, miss your therapy apppointments (which dont help at this point anyway), and it is a huge effort to write.

And, please someone, hit the keyboard. You never know whose life you might be saving or making just a little bit better if even for a little while.

I am waiting and hoping for someone to write. Thanks for reading.
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TheSilentEmpath,

I registered and became a member, just so I could post a reply. So firstly, in a way I can see some of your perspective. The pain others feel is a personal experience, so I won't sit here at my computer and pretend I know exactly how you feel, but I'll tell you this - I have similar thoughts.

Lately I have become so destitute that I had to sell my only car to be able to pay off some debts. It's the last few inches before rock bottom, let me tell you. I'm currently living with my parents (AGAIN) and I'm writing to you from a 12x12' room, with no windows, and is constantly cold. I feel like I'm in a grave.

But I've felt that way most of my life.

At one point, I was a happy kid. I used to try and befriend other kids at school, I sang along to the Bluegrass music that poured out of the front room of my parents' house. I remember days that were bright, exciting... I felt like every single day was this great adventure. That was about to change.

I traced how my trajectory was altered to a single event in 2nd grade. Yep, I feel like a bit of a baby / dipsh*t when I say that, but it's true. This kid (a boy, let's call him X), who was incredibly jealous of me for whatever reason, got some other friends of his together and formed a circle around me. They started throwing rocks. I was so traumatized, that I ran directly into the classroom from the playground and told the teacher immediately what happened. She was dismissive.

This dumbfounded me. In a way, it sent me the message that "It doesn't matter to anyone if bad things happen to you". I was crushed. And from that point forward, it got harder and harder to be happy.

I started gaining weight - and as we all know, being the fat kid in school was, well, really fun to be (ahem). My parents had screaming matches daily, so I hid in cabinets and closets of my house, staring into the darkness... or letting my eyes focus on the light that came from the gap between the door and the floor. My days soon became a "Goundhog Day" of sorts. By day, I would endure constant teasing at school, and by night, I would be screamed at by one if not both of my parents.

I spent a lot of time singing songs to myself. I thought that if I came up with a catchy tune, that maybe, just maybe, I'd be happy for a while and I could maybe find a friend again. I spent a lot of time sitting alone on the playground, watching the other kids play. No one really wanted to play with me, as I was toxic to the rep of other kids. When new kids moved to town, I would befriend them quickly, in hopes that I could build a resistance. They learned quickly - make friends with me, and you're as big of an outcast as I was.

My only real solace came in music. My father worked at a manufacturing plant that made records, so from time to time, as a perk of his job, my Dad was allowed to take home a copy of an album from a small list of albums that were slated for meltdown otherwise. For me, it was magical. My friends became the Stray Cats, Michael Stanley Band, George Thorogood, The Cars, J. Geils Band - you name it, I was listening to it - and way before any of the kids at school even knew who these artists were. These albums became my friends.

My solitude didn't subside. It grew. I would jump off the bus, go to my room, and stay there the remainder of the day, listening. Sometimes I would go outside, sometimes I rode my bike. But it was party of one, all the time. I had two brothers, but since they quickly distanced themselves from me at school, that gave them an immunity of sorts from my toxic reputation.

My Grandmother on my father's side was the one person in my life that was constantly positive. I never heard her complain, unless it was about one of "Those dumb Democrats". She was a constant calming force in my life, and I loved her more than I had ever loved anyone. She was diagnosed with advanced malignant colon cancer in 1988. I spent my entire Christmas break from school there at her house, talking to her, listening... stories about the Great Depression, and how life was many years before I was born. I was fascinated.

The day my Grandmother died, my father's brother and sister came to town and went to the Hospital. I was strictly forbidden from going to see her. As I sat in my room, playing my copy of "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band", I received notice from my cousin sobbing at the top of the stairs that she had died. As the needle of my turntable passed through the final minute of "She's Leaving Home", I felt the most intense pain I had ever felt in my entire life. The final work had been done. I was now shackled to an unimaginable demon. A demon I call "My other me".

MOM. No pun was intended, but ironically my demon and my mother had things in common. They both told me I would "dig ditches for th rest of my life". They both ignored any sort of sadness, and told me to "straighten up". I was, after all, not supposed to be acting this way. I had no reason to. It was simply illogical to both my Mother and MOM.

My Demon naturally persisted into High School. I started listening to Metal, and truckloads of it. My favorites were Megadeth and Slayer, because Megadeth knew my pain and knew that life had completely lost it's meaning (In My Darkest Hour) and Slayer knew how genuinely ****ed this World was to me (Raining Blood, Angel of Death, War Ensemble). By this time I spent all of my time alone. I had friends, but they were friends that liked the "loose cannon" they saw before them. The were rebelling as a rite of passage. I was brewing a monster below the surface. MOM became "The Shape" after I saw John Carpenter's Halloween.

No, I didn't become a murderer. Many times I thought about lashing out at the World that had abandoned me, something that Social Worker after Social Worker tried like hell to change, but to no avail. I had built the perfect system in my head. All that time spent alone, listening, turned me into a brilliant social engineer. I started turning kids against each other at school. I started filling the school computer system full of games and other obviously bad things (viruses, porn). I had taught myself how to use a computer after my Grandmother died as a way to escape, and I quickly became so good at it that I was programming circles around my Computer Class teacher.

The Shape followed me everywhere I went. It told me that my girlfriend was cheating, until my paranoia drove her to that end. It told me that I didn't matter, so I would sometimes binge so much that I would throw up and then go back for more. When I turned 21, it told me that alcohol was the answer, so I drank until I blacked out. Everywhere I went, The Shape was right there... ready. Willing. Able.

I guess what caused me to confront it once and for all was two years ago. I had a fiancee who had a child. I raised that boy from age two to age six, and all the while I felt his love, and it made The Shape recoil, each and every time. His brown eyes would stare into mine and ask me "Are you my Daddy?" I would answer "What do you think?".

"Yes!" he would say with that excitement that I remembered having all those years ago.

And one day, after a night of heavy partying with her "friend", my fiancee came in and told me I had 12 hours to leave and take my things with me. I was not allowed to see or say goodbye to her son, who she left with her Mother that day.

The shape came roaring back to life with a furiosity. I was soon drinking a half of a bottle of Jim Beam daily. I was in the abyss. I was lost. Gone. Anything that was in me had died.

And then something really weird happened. Something that I didn't even think was possible. As I sat alone, watching the ball drop on another New Years' Eve, I heard someone on television joke about 2012 being the "Last Year on Earth for everyone". And I don't know what about that set it in motion, but I cycled from depression, to rage, to melancholy, and then...

Quiet.

The silence in my head was deafening. I walked outside, and I stood there. The Midwest night air was a slight, gentle but cold breeze. And it was... silent. It was so quiet, inside and out, that my ears actually started ringing slightly.

Empath, I don't know what happened. I really don't know. But somehow, dome grand being - God, aliens, Jimmy Hoffa, who knows - plopped an unspeakable gift in my lap. Silence.

And I thought about it. This pain, this demon... The Shape that had followed, taunted me, tormented me all these years, was in my control.

I had it wrong the whole time! For years, I thought I was a feather being tossed about a raging river, at the mercy of what came around the bend. But that had now changed. So I vowed to do something. I vowed that night that I would spend every last drop of blood, every last gasp of air, fighting this son of a ***** tooth and nail. I would give him the fear, the paranoia, the unspeakable horror that he gave me all those years.

And today, I fight.

I can't pretend that my life is perfect. And despite therapy, calls to suicide hotlines from payphones at 3AM, medications, alcohol, drugs, self-mutilation and a slew of outbursts and drama, I knew that it had gotten to that point in the movie where the winning assault was to be launched.

To this day, I have lost 70 pounds since that New Year's eve. I'm sober. I'm making music again. And I'm actually excited again. Why? Because I remembered. I remembered what made me feel like I felt all those years ago. I remembered that it was me who was the funny one, the happy one, to one who cared about others. Suddenly The Shape was manageable.

To this day, that sick piece of crap sits in solitary confinement. I have him well contained. I watch MSNBC on Friday nights (for the Lockup shows) because I want to remind myself that The Shape now lives in despair, NOT ME.

Like just about anyone that has suffered the trauma of a life of crippling depression (which trust me, I left a lot of stuff out of this story, as I could have filled a freakin' book), I have scars. I have the memories of those rocks striking my skull, my body. I have the scars on my knuckles as I pounded my fists into bloody swollen mounds in fits of anger and despair. I have the eyes that used to look into the mirror with unbridled rage - but now look and muster something that feels incredibly foreign each and every time it happens - a smile.

I have wanted, begged, prayed for death many times, Empath. And I told this story for two reasons:

1. I want you to know that pain is manageable. You can manage it. You are it's warden. It is your prisoner, not the other way around.

and

2. I want you to know that even though everything in your World may fall away, one thing will remain unwavering. My love for people like you. People who know what demons like The Shape are all about.

I don't know you, I know. But I know that death isn't the answer. The answer is the fight. You have to fight, fight, fight like general fu--ing Patton until the demon cowers in the corner in a puddle of p-ss with a snot bubble in it's nose.

In in the silence that comes in the wake of your fight, you fill it with sweet, sweet music. And you remember...

You remember the magic.

Love,
Justanotherday

Just another day:

It is people like you who would sign on to a board just to reach out and help another soul. God Bless you! Thank you so much for doing this.

"If by my being here, I have helped just one life a bit easier,
then I will have mattered" (loosely quoted Mother Theres
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Im right there with you. Thinking about suicide non-stop, especially at night. Been alone for my entire adult life. I manage to distract myself sometimes with healthy options and other times, not so much. Day by day approach works the best for me. These feelings of self harm have come and gone before. But lately Ive felt a bit of inevitability about it. And caring less about other's reactions or burdens. I just have to remember that the morning will come and at least that day has a chance to be better if I try to make it better. Im with you day by day.
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I am still shy about posting, just joined today, however I want to say that every word you have written feels like it came from my own mind. I know the pain your are going though, I am just getting out of a really bad depression myself. I am here for you as we all are. Write me when every you like.
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(((((TheSilentEmpath))))) I feel like I could have written your post, although probably not as eloquently. I wish I knew what the answer is. All I can do is trudge through each day

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You may want to end. But some people dream about living a life like yours.
You don't know how many times I've wished I could trade places with someone who's dying and isn't ready. I already feel that I'm selfish and ungrateful to be sat here resenting each breath when there are those worse off than me, but I can't imagine anyone dreams of a life where they spend each day wanting to die.

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JustAnotherDay, what an awesome story! You have an absolute gift for putting words together. When I came to the end of your post, I wanted your story to keep going I was that fascinated. You really ought to think about writing a book someday.
Thank you for a truly inspiring post, and welcome to PC! Please keep posting - we could use your optimistic look on life here in the community

I am not always very optimistic. In fact, I can get overwhelmed from time to time, and that sadness comes creeping back in. But I fight it tooth and nail, every day.

And, well, things are starting to look slightly better. I have a plane ticket, I'm packing by bags, and I'm headed to the East Coast for an indefinite amount of time. I feel nervous... but I have a reason to have some hope.

Depression is a manageable disability. It's requirements are far greater than people can comprehend. It causes you to constantly monitor yourself. You become your own helicopter parent.

And I'm glad I have a chance to do something new. It's going to be an interesting time ahead of me.

Don't worry. I'll be posting from time to time. I'm glad you liked my story.
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Just another day:

It is people like you who would sign on to a board just to reach out and help another soul. God Bless you! Thank you so much for doing this.

"If by my being here, I have helped just one life a bit easier,
then I will have mattered" (loosely quoted Mother Theres

You're very welcome. It was good therapy for me too.
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TheSilentEmpath,

Not a day goes by that I do not think to myself "I don't want to live anymore". I know I don't have what it takes to kill myself. I think about all of those things you said in your first post every day. I hate the cycle of life. I hate everything about life. I wish I was never born. I wish that I would never wake up again. Sometimes, like justanotherday, I sometimes listen to the heavy metal, Megadeth, Slayer, but also Metallica, Avenged Sevenfold, Killswitch Engage, Korn and Pantera. Anything that just sort of spits in life's face to try to relieve the pain. But lately I've become so numb I don't even want to listen to anything. I just drive in my car in silence, until I get to work and then carry out my duty of sitting in front of a ******* computer for 8 hours like a zombie and then leaving, not saying a word to anyone.
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Its almost as if i wrote that!!! Feel tge exact same way. Life sucks, no point in it.
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Old Jun 14, 2012, 10:54 PM
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1. I want you to know that pain is manageable. You can manage it. You are it's warden. It is your prisoner, not the other way around.

and

2. I want you to know that even though everything in your World may fall away, one thing will remain unwavering. My love for people like you. People who know what demons like The Shape are all about.

I don't know you, I know. But I know that death isn't the answer. The answer is the fight. You have to fight, fight, fight like general fu--ing Patton until the demon cowers in the corner in a puddle of p-ss with a snot bubble in it's nose.

In in the silence that comes in the wake of your fight, you fill it with sweet, sweet music. And you remember...

You remember the magic.

Love,
Justanotherday
I'd like to start by saying, I apologize for taking so long to respond. i hope you'll pardon me. i haven't been emotionally well enough to do even that properly. Within the past few weeks I broke a 2 years and then some streak of not cutting. I've been left alone without anyone i care to speak to for so many days.. i've been crying what seems like every few hours. all the time feeling this weight on my chest like someone were pushing the air out of me. all the time my eyes about ready to spill over. even now. i feel like this. but i'm trying. so bear with me..

Thank you. for your message. knowing my post inspired you to register just so that you could respond is somewhat heartwarming.. part of the reason it's taken me so long to respond is that in general i try to respond to every section or point a person makes.. and your message, while touching, is incredibly long. Forgive, me.. but i'm only going to touch on a few points.

The way you managed to find a coping mechanism in song got my attention in particular. i used to believe drawing or poetry to be outlets for me but i feel nothing in them anymore. and it makes it all the worse.. it can be a wonderful image a brilliant poem but i have no satisfaction from it.. it doesnt make me feel better. it doesn't change anything..

Solitude. also stood out to me. for the past 3 years or so, I've come home from school, walked strait into my room. and remained there for the rest of the day. online. I have 3 siblings. It's only my brother that ever attempts to reach out to me. but even that's not often and i can't express how much it means to me except by hugging him whenever i get the chance..

"my other me" i understand to some degree. but let me break down how my mind works for a moment.
i am nearly constantly. completely void of emotion. simply existing. going through motions like some kinf of robot. it doesn't phase me. most of the time. Then, there will come weeks. or months. of horrible. horrible crippling depression.. where every ledge becomes a siren. every street. every knife and bottle of pills i see. where i'm tempted to steal alchohol just to see if it would make me forget things for a while like people are portrayed being able to do with it..
then once in a very rare while i'll have a day or two (or more often) a few hours of unexplainable happiness.
but once in a rare while. once in a long. long while. drawn out to once. rarely twice in a year. there is rage. horrifying. psychotic rage. where the strongest desire i have is to destroy everything around me. it happened most recently while in a classroom my mother used to work in..
it seems. that there are always two forces working in my mind. and one is much much stronger than the other. the stronger is a self-sacrificing urge. and the feeble is the selfish urge. always there. making the sacrifice hurt. making everything all the worse. poking at me. until a day comes. like that day in the classroom where it bursts through and I'm ready to demolish everything and couldnt care less for the consequences. when i'll suddenly feel very confident. and strong. and self-righteous. like another person. like how i was before things in middle school happened.
I call this other thing. the other me. she has no name. but she once was me. she perhaps is what i am supposed to be.. but the empath in me has a much much tighter hold on me than she does. she just tears away at the empath until i can't help but give in. and it's without warning. usually in the middle of a blankness period..

my other me sits and whispers things like 'ignore him, he's ignored you so many times' 'curse her out' other cruel things. but the empath wins. in all but the rarest circumstances.
still the empath washes my life to this unspeakable grey. this monotone that's not worth suffering through all my self-sacrifice and all i've put up with.. when she's there things are bright. and there seems to be purpose. i feel like i have power. and it's tempting to just stay that way. i've wondered at times if i could. but the empath is strong. very. very. strong. and smothers that idea before it get's past just that. the idea.

But let me come at this at a different way too. there is perhaps. another voice. more like your voice. one who is directly harmful to my being. with no happier, tempting side. one who constantly whisper 'kill yourself' 'there's nothing for you in this world' 'you will die alone' 'no one loves you, they just use you' 'no one could love you. you're too inhibited' 'no one really cares' 'they're all sick of you' 'they don't need you' 'you're just making them worse' 'why don't you leave already' etc..
a very horrid voice. a voice which can conjure graphic images in an otherwise abstract mind of self mutilation and violence. the one who prompted me to cut myself perhaps a week ago today.

I've though too, though minorly on if this world were to end. just what my life would have been like. and knowing the empath is in control i simply sigh and there the weight is again. nothing will change. nothing can change. the empath is too strong to allow me selfishness. and change would involve selfishness.

I wish that like you i could perhaps turn these things around. but all parts of me are too stuck to change on my own. and i don't know what outside source could help. it could not be optional. it would have to be forced, there's just no way i can see myself gathering the strength to push through the empath for anything or to hold back the horrid little voice..

I wish i could learn to turn round and grab hold of these things leashes. but as things stand I am the prisoner.. and until i can find the strength to so much as plan an escape... it will remain that way.
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TheSilentEmpath I feel like you often. Ive felt numb and like I am just living for no real reason, but at the same time I cannot see myself killing myself, at least not yet. I still feel that maybe there is a small chance I can find some happiness in my life eventually, even though at the moment and for most of my life Ive been consistently unhappy. I dont have any real friends and don't feel as if I have ever had a real friend. Just people who used me or didnt really care about me. I think if I was truly alone, and didn't have my immediate family that cared about me, I might be able to go through with killing myself. At least for now, I wouldn't be able to kill myself, knowing how it would effect my family. But I am just sick of going on and being miserable and just having your own family to talk to doesn't feel like enough. Im so sick of being lonely, but feel like I am too messed up to not be this way.

So I dont really have any advice. I am just in a similar situation. I dont know what my life's purpose is, if I will be happy, or if I will one day decide my life isnt worth living anymore. I am just confused and plodding along aimlessly for now. For now Ive just tried getting some enjoyment out of hobbies and small things in life like eating meals and things. I just feel really overwhelmed with anger and sorrow some days and it's very hard to deal with. Ive been in therapy for seveal months but dont feel much better. Am going to just say what the hell and try an antidepressant soon. Perhaps, theres something ****ed up in my brain making me unhappy. I guess I just haven't given up totally yet. Im still trying and hoping to make myself happy. I feel like I cannot give up and make such a permanent decision like killing myself until Ive tried all my options to turn things around. I do wish I was dead most days, but dont have the courage or the selfishness (since it will affect my family) to go through with it yet.
very similar feelings. but I see no chance for happiness.. not truly. there is only guilt. at who i might hurt..

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I just want to say that I feel like this alot. In fact for months now (cant even remember when it got this bad), I have been very very down and feeling the way you feel Empath.

It is so very hard. I have major depression and no drugs, experimental or otherwise have worked for 30 years; neight has therapy.

I have felt better than this. Not great .. not heappy but better and "better" looks really great to me right now. I am praying for "better". And even though I say I have felt better,, it is hard to remember that.

Can anyone relate to this? Does anyone have any methods of coping when you are so bad off, you can hardly get out of bed, miss your therapy apppointments (which dont help at this point anyway), and it is a huge effort to write.

And, please someone, hit the keyboard. You never know whose life you might be saving or making just a little bit better if even for a little while.

I am waiting and hoping for someone to write. Thanks for reading.

I apologize to you, but i have no way to cope with this either.. and i have no advice.. i just also wish that 'better' would come around for me..

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Im right there with you. Thinking about suicide non-stop, especially at night. Been alone for my entire adult life. I manage to distract myself sometimes with healthy options and other times, not so much. Day by day approach works the best for me. These feelings of self harm have come and gone before. But lately Ive felt a bit of inevitability about it. And caring less about other's reactions or burdens. I just have to remember that the morning will come and at least that day has a chance to be better if I try to make it better. Im with you day by day.
I'm barely half a year an adult.. but this has been on for years already.. hoping for a better tomorrow.. would be nice..

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(((((TheSilentEmpath))))) I feel like I could have written your post, although probably not as eloquently. I wish I knew what the answer is. All I can do is trudge through each day


You don't know how many times I've wished I could trade places with someone who's dying and isn't ready. I already feel that I'm selfish and ungrateful to be sat here resenting each breath when there are those worse off than me, but I can't imagine anyone dreams of a life where they spend each day wanting to die.

*Willow*
I too have wished to trade place with someone dying to have a life even like mine.. someone who could go out and make something of this existence rather than sitting back and letting it pass them by.. i've wished that I could trade place with some victim of an automoblie accident. or someone who at least doesn't have the empath to hold them back..

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TheSilentEmpath,

Not a day goes by that I do not think to myself "I don't want to live anymore". I know I don't have what it takes to kill myself. I think about all of those things you said in your first post every day. I hate the cycle of life. I hate everything about life. I wish I was never born. I wish that I would never wake up again. Sometimes, like justanotherday, I sometimes listen to the heavy metal, Megadeth, Slayer, but also Metallica, Avenged Sevenfold, Killswitch Engage, Korn and Pantera. Anything that just sort of spits in life's face to try to relieve the pain. But lately I've become so numb I don't even want to listen to anything. I just drive in my car in silence, until I get to work and then carry out my duty of sitting in front of a ******* computer for 8 hours like a zombie and then leaving, not saying a word to anyone.
sound like my routine nearly. silent. and solitary. alone infront of a computer nearly every waking hour of the day. when i wake up, the first thing i do is open my laptop, and as i go to sleep, the last thing i do is close it. i hope for conversations as i'm online. but as time passes fewer and fewer people attempt them. it's been down to a solitary person for a year now. and he's slowly leaving. ignoring me for longer and longer periods of times. and i'm losing it.
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(((((Silent Empath)))))

I am new to the board but wanted to reply to you. I often deal with these same feelings every day. I have battled with depression over half of my life and I'm just tired already. I'm glad at least that there are forums like this where you can reach out & know that other people are going through the same thing.

No advice to give you, only empathy.
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