[nothemama8]

Don't know what happened last noght but someone came out and scared Papa, someone new , is this possible?
Okay we know there are several who is this new one why would new alter threaten Papa?
We feel safe with Papa, he said we had a nasty evil look in our eyes, what can we do until we talk to Pdoc which won't be til Thursday ***** HELP US SOMEONE

[Mahali]

Yes it is obviously possible.

Did something happen to trigger this one? Have you been having anything new or different going on?

There could be lots of reasons why this one would feel threatened or angry at Papa. Perhaps this one was hurt and is not aware Papa is no threat to you all.

Is there any way you can see T before thursday or at least talk to T?

Please take peasures to keep everybody safe.

thanking of you all.

[nothemama8]

Have been abit tired lately regular ammount of stress, whoever this is they appeared to want to harm us when Papa interviend this (creature) don't want to call it a part of us, got phisically nasty
I'm to old for a new one to surface
Thanks place your tops

[kimmydawn]

((((((((((girls)))))))))))))

i'm sorry it's been confusing and scary tonite. we're here.

KD

[Rhapsody]

I too had an evil one in me and IT did not come out until about a year after all the others had presented themselves.... I guess I always new she was in there (I felt her) I just had not meet her until then..... she liked to come out and scare people - to see the fear and shock in their face, but no physical harm was ever done.

She left after I took control and after I started to heal, from the inside out.

((((((( HUGS )))))))

LoVe,
Rhapsody -

DID begins in childhood -

Child and adult in a room together. The child is being beaten and raped. Child sees no way out so imagines she is safe by dreaming up her mental safe place. to deny the rape is happening to her she imagines it is happening to someone else. That someone else that she is imagining.

The child believes she is safe in her mental safe place. Child that she imagines is being abused.

Child daydreaming is the victim not the attacker.
any memories that is stored separated as the child she is imagining being raped is the memory of the rape. The memory of a victim not an attacker.

Child grows up and has a loved one (boyfriend, girlfriend, husband, wife, life partner)

Adult with loved one is in a room. Their discussion turns into a fight. The loved one makes a move that reminds the adult survivor of the past rape either consciously or unconsciously. The survivor gets afraid and mentally escapes the situation by going into her mental safe place. The brain matches the movement with a separated memory. The woman automatically acts out that piece of memory from the past rape that the brain has matched the loved ones movement to. Since in the past the separated memory stored was an abuse memory the woman is physically unable to attack.

A person dissociated and acting automatically from the past pieces of separated memories can fight back only if they are first being attacked and only if that piece of memory contains the memory of fighting back during that past rape.

Attacker memory pieces is one of the myths of DID, and is widely dramatized in the media for science fiction movies and fictionalized television shows and murder mystery books,

The fact that DIDs are unable to just attack other people is one of those things that is not normally disclosed to the public because it is one way that professionals are able to tell when the person does not have DID.

So in order for a fight back memory piece to attack your husband he had to have been hurting you.

Tell him to back off and it won't happen again.

(((((notthemama)))))

[kimmydawn]

(((((((((myself))))))))))

I appreciate alot of what you say. It's apparent that you've done alot of research and have a great understanding of self. That is so awesome.

I, however, disagree that an insider can act out only if "reacting" in a memory. I do believe that it's usually triggered, but then can quickly take on a life of its own...blending past with present and creating a new set of circumstance, and memory...which that insider will hold and react to. As this insider deals with more, it separates more and becomes much more unique and evolved. I feel that happens from the time that the first dissociation takes place with a single "memory piece" and that's how insiders evolve, allowing for further separation and creating an internal self (with thoughts, views, understanding, and preferences) holding more than a single memory.

Basically, I think it might begin as you state. I do feel it evolves from there. I think there's more to it.

((((((((girls)))))))))

It sounds like this insider is angry and was determined to harm the body. When hubby stepped in, he was interfering with the goal, I think. I'm sorry this happened and was so confusing for everyone.

love,

kd

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[nothemama8]

Myself in all respects, we are real, not a text book example for Pdoc's
We were never sexually abused , nor beaten, ours was a bizzare mental abuse from family member, WE DO NOT DISSACOCIATE
The creature was trying to physically harm the host body , Papa stepped in to take the knife away, the creature did not attack him, PAPA DID NOT ATTACK US
Alters can and have physically harmed the host body, I never said the alters attack ppl
So you please back off since you don't know us

[nothemama8]

Thank you KD for understanding, at least we know were not freaks, and that this did really happen
Hope my last post wasn't offensive, We feel abit insulted

got your pm. Its ok no offense taken. I know sometimes I come on a bit strong and sometimes misunderstand what the post means. pmed back acha. Glad you told me you needed me to back a bit. will do. take care.