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Old Mar 17, 2013, 06:37 AM
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Dose anyone else have bad alters, alters that aren't all that nice, one that may hurt your others or other people? I have on, his names Paul, and he's tyring to get out i can feel it, and it's giving me a head ache, he's really nasty and he's angry and violent a lot. He wears the rest of us out wear my other half out. I dont like people getting hurt and i dont like him being out... Does anyone else have this? What do you do?
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Old Mar 17, 2013, 07:03 AM
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What has your therapist said about working with this alter and protecting the others?
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Old Mar 17, 2013, 07:52 AM
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What has your therapist said about working with this alter and protecting the others?
I don't have a T, i did, but he was making things worse so i stopped seeing him now i don't have one..
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Old Mar 17, 2013, 10:15 AM
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Dose anyone else have bad alters, alters that aren't all that nice, one that may hurt your others or other people? I have on, his names Paul, and he's tyring to get out i can feel it, and it's giving me a head ache, he's really nasty and he's angry and violent a lot. He wears the rest of us out wear my other half out. I dont like people getting hurt and i dont like him being out... Does anyone else have this? What do you do?
one thing about alters associated with DID....they all have their own jobs, purpose, reason for being...that means they are all just doing what ever they were created to do....to do what ever the host could not handle doing..

their job, purpose reason for being may be things like to be mean, hateful and harmful to others because the host was unable to do what ever was needed to be done.

I had alters who's job, purpose, reason for being was to harm me, prevent me from bonding with anyone, prevent me from telling what was happening to me,and to harm others if need be.

how did I handle it..when ever those alters were active my treatment providers hospitalized me due to the New York state law that being a danger to one self and others is illegal and grounds for arrest or commitment to a mental facility until the mental facility treatment providers felt I and all with in could be out in the community safely again. my treatment providers chose commitment over arrest/jail time so that I could learn ways that would prevent these alters from doing their job, purpose, reason for being...those ways were medication for anxiety (since the trigger for switching into these alters was the host..me being anxious), grounding, and other therapeutic techniques that enabled me to stay focused aware and take care of what ever the situation was that triggers the switching into those alters. I discovered what was triggering those switches into the alters who's job, purpose, reason for being was to be rude, and harmful to myself and others through therapy.

my suggestion when you feel like you or your alters are being unsafe with you and others, go to your emergency room/hospital. they will be able to help you and your alters to remain safe with yourself and others.

my other suggestion is maybe its time for you to go back to therapy at least until this phase of being harmful with your self and others passes.
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Old Mar 17, 2013, 12:37 PM
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I think it is important to keep in mind that not all therapists are the same and because you have difficulty with one it doesn't mean you can't find one that you can work with. Especially if you are concerned with your well being and the well being of the others. It took me a while to find a t that I was comfortable with. We don't always agree and some of my alters will be rude to her but on the whole we know we are better from working with her.
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Old Mar 17, 2013, 01:33 PM
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I think it is important to keep in mind that not all therapists are the same and because you have difficulty with one it doesn't mean you can't find one that you can work with. Especially if you are concerned with your well being and the well being of the others. It took me a while to find a t that I was comfortable with. We don't always agree and some of my alters will be rude to her but on the whole we know we are better from working with her.
Thanks fo letting me know, i mean we've persoanally had back luck with T's the few we've seen haven't been all that helpful or good.. Unfotonatally
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Old Mar 17, 2013, 03:08 PM
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There are good ones out there. I googled my t before I started seeing her. Her practice focus is DID and related mental health issues. I found this out by researching her online. Maybe that will help.
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We have a handful of alters who do bad things, like punish the inside kids, try to hurt us. Theyre just plain mean. Our t is working with them.

Look up DID introjects
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Old Mar 17, 2013, 10:05 PM
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I have one alter who feels like doing mean things. She is about 13 most of the time. She was not allowed to be angry or express herself a lot of times so her feelings got very confusing for her. She feels rage at the world - the world being her dad for not allowing her to be herself. He would hurt her physically till she was crying and mad, then he would tell her she shouldn't be mad, that she asked for it, that she liked it. But she shouldn't go by her feelings. If she would get mad she would be punished.

Now this insider met the T I used to have and he allowed her to be angry and talk about what happened. When the insider is around she still feels anger and sometimes she still feels rage. Sometimes I just have to let her say how she feels and validate her feelings. I used to feel like she was a monster and I and the insiders were scared of her. But really, she is hurt just like the others, probably she was hurt most from all us. She protected herself by scaring everyone else so she wouldn't get hurt again, but it also made her very lonely. She needs to know that she is heard and understood. so the T told the insider he would be her friend and it took a long time for her to trust him. the t was a daddy for some of the insiders but the angry one could only allow the T to be a friend. It is still hard for her to trust. I think it always will be hard for that insider to trust. But now she knows its ok to be angry, that its better to talk about the anger and have someone validate her feelings than keep it all to herself if she thinks she's going to do something she knows is hurtful. she also knows that I and the other insiders love her. She isn't able to love as much as some of the others but she respects the rest for it because she knows I and the rest won't do anything that would hurt her. We all understand that we have all been hurt enough.

Sometimes it takes a while to find the right T. Like friends - people usually don't have a good working relationship unless they kinda click, right. so if your T and you don't work well together, try someone else. Also ask if they have experience working with DID and what their perspective is on it. See if you can find a way to work together. One T might only talk to the outside person about their insiders while another T is willing to talk with the insiders.
Figure out what you’re comfortable with.

Sorry this is so long. It kinda fell out of my fingers. I hope things work out for you.
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I don't have a T, i did, but he was making things worse so i stopped seeing him now i don't have one..
There should be a site where you can enter your zip code and find therapists in your area. Look for someone who has experience with Dissociative Disorders. You need a therapist to help you process what you are going through.

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Old Mar 18, 2013, 05:38 PM
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The first alter I ever had come out was/is nasty. First time out she sexually hate added my friends, and every time after that she either cuts the body with her name or takes drugs or hurts those around me and closest to me. She's also gotten me into some benificial for me but that was in a round about way.

It's scary when she's out and it never goes well, but she's the only one so I'm lucky.
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Old Mar 19, 2013, 04:36 AM
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The first alter I ever had come out was/is nasty. First time out she sexually hate added my friends, and every time after that she either cuts the body with her name or takes drugs or hurts those around me and closest to me. She's also gotten me into some benificial for me but that was in a round about way.

It's scary when she's out and it never goes well, but she's the only one so I'm lucky.
I can completely relate im sorry you have suffer, mine does the same, but only to one of us in particular, which luckily isn't me.
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Old Mar 19, 2013, 04:41 AM
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There should be a site where you can enter your zip code and find therapists in your area. Look for someone who has experience with Dissociative Disorders. You need a therapist to help you process what you are going through.

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That sounds like a good option thanks,
and to the rest of the people on here im sorry i didn't rely sooner thanks for your helpful responses!
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Old Apr 13, 2013, 05:40 PM
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I have 2 parts who can be mean. One is a teenage girl i hear her in my head. She can be verry nice but also nasty. In the beginning she talked nasty About me to my T but when i tried to understand her and listen to what she sayd she became nicer.
The other part is very extreem. It is a man/boy and it wants to hurt me and also the other parts. It does realy bad things but my T tried to work with him and thats hard. He sayd horribel things to her in her face and made even sexual coments.i know my t a few years and i woud never say something so mean. I felt really bad about it but she is not taking it personal and knows how i think of her. Sometimes i feel really scared thinking that this is a part of me...but my T explained once he was there to protect me. He only need to learn different things now.

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Old Apr 14, 2013, 06:55 AM
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Unhingedhick, I took a look in the therapist finder on the website for the International Society for the Study of Trauma and Dissociation Dissociation and Trauma: Join ISSTD!, for Vancouver, and came up with this person. Perhaps he might be able to help you in some way. The therapists who are part of this organization have a special interest in the treatment of dissociative disorders.

Dr. James C. Thomas
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NW Trauma Therapy, PLLC
10000 NE 7th Avenue, Suite 100-J
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I have one bad alter. Oh and i've seen some Ts that made things worse. Do't go back to those ones. I read a book that told me how to put bad alters in lockdown. Mine is usualky able to stay in lookdown it's kinda like time out.
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I have one bad alter. Oh and i've seen some Ts that made things worse. Do't go back to those ones. I read a book that told me how to put bad alters in lockdown. Mine is usualky able to stay in lookdown it's kinda like time out.
What's the book? Or at least what's the technique, because that sounds hella useful. My bad alter always seems to come out at the worst possible times.
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Old Apr 19, 2013, 03:30 AM
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What's the book? Or at least what's the technique, because that sounds hella useful. My bad alter always seems to come out at the worst possible times.
Mine too, he come out A LOT...
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What's the book? Or at least what's the technique, because that sounds hella useful. My bad alter always seems to come out at the worst possible times.
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I guess it makes sense for a bad alter to do that.
Alters are created by trauma, right? The worst possible time. So that's where they live and that's when they'll come out.
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