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Old May 01, 2010, 07:51 AM
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I am so far behind the times I guess. I don't even know what some of the comments mean. I posted some information on a board a few days ago and got a response from someone. I don't know if they agreed or disagreed. No idea. They just posted "WORD!". I have no idea what they were trying to convey. Maybe they were insulting me, I don't know.
If I'm even remotely close to my assumptions...lol...I believe "WORD" is a statement of agreement. So, that persons was telling you that he/she was in agreement to what you were saying.

What I find interestingly amusing is when I hear some of the youth actually use the text slang in verbal conversation.
There they are, face to face, interacting with each other....and someone says...."lol", "lmao", "omg" or (this is the best one), "i'm afk"......
I can't help but to find that funny.
Not really sure why I find humor in that. Maybe it's because I understand it's the age and chances are it will pass...just as all cycles of "coolness" does.

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Old May 01, 2010, 08:00 AM
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I know what some of those mean, but AFK? What's that?

Also, I did just think you were being sarcastic ADoseofReality, I wasn't trying to be mean or anything.

Yoda, I remember when your keyboard was messed up. Something like that wouldn't bother me, its intentionally not even trying to spell words correctly, or use grammar properly, or use punctuation...
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Old May 01, 2010, 08:05 AM
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Thank you Shangrala. Even my son was not sure what the poster meant with that statement. And he speaks Wookiee. So I guess I am not too dumb. Just too old.
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Old May 01, 2010, 08:49 AM
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I know what some of those mean, but AFK? What's that?

Also, I did just think you were being sarcastic ADoseofReality, I wasn't trying to be mean or anything.

Yoda, I remember when your keyboard was messed up. Something like that wouldn't bother me, its intentionally not even trying to spell words correctly, or use grammar properly, or use punctuation...
AFK = Away From Keys
Which is why I thought when actually hearing someone verbally say that is sooooo "in left field"....Funny.

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Old May 01, 2010, 08:56 AM
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Chat/internet/text speak drives me absolutely bonkers. Now, I'll admit, If I'm trying to shoot off a quick text message or statement via instant messaging, I'll use the occasional abbreviation or shorthand. But I don't understand how some users on the internet can literally cut down every single word they use.

I've seen some of my former college students have enough gall to use "txt" shorthand in a PAPER they submit for a GRADE. Then they'll be surprised they didn't get a good grade...

I don't know, it just irks me. Guess it's a bigger pet peeve of mine than I'd thought.
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Old May 01, 2010, 08:57 AM
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Thank you Shangrala. Even my son was not sure what the poster meant with that statement. And he speaks Wookiee. So I guess I am not too dumb. Just too old.
I don't think age has much to do with it, really. In fact, not at all? It's a matter of how much exposure you have to all of it.
I'm 51...lol..that's an age a bit well beyond what the youth find as being cool....(or whatever). But, it's been my close bond & involvement with my daughter (14), which has kept me in tune to the youth's newly adapted definitions.
If it weren't for dot, I'd be in the dark, as well......

Ummm....What's Wookiee?.
(See? You're not alone)....roflmao.

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Old May 01, 2010, 10:16 AM
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Old May 01, 2010, 12:10 PM
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I agree with you. I get annoyed by that. Why can't they just speak normally?
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Old May 01, 2010, 01:00 PM
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A wookie is an alien from Star Wars.
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Old May 01, 2010, 01:38 PM
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This bothers me too. I know my grammar isn't perfect but at least people can recognize what I am trying to say.

When I read posts or questions that make no sense due to spelling/grammar issues I ignore them. If you want me to take the time to respond to you please take the time to post legibly. Text speak is so individual to the person using it that it is usually completely illegible to anyone outside that person's circle. If you are posting from a cell phone maybe I will excuse you
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Old May 01, 2010, 02:04 PM
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users on the internet can literally cut down every single word they use.

This is what gets me..... sometimes, the word isn't even shortened. It is just plain spelled incorrectly but still the same amount of characters. I have noticed this with 'the'. The fashion is to spell it 'teh'. Why? How is that functional?
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Old May 01, 2010, 02:13 PM
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I am a confident person but I must admit after reading this thread I am starting to have second thoughts about posting in case I get something wrong....

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Old May 01, 2010, 02:15 PM
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It doesn't bother me. I don't judge or look down on others for the way they spell or use grammar or punctuation.
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Old May 01, 2010, 07:54 PM
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This is what gets me..... sometimes, the word isn't even shortened. It is just plain spelled incorrectly but still the same amount of characters. I have noticed this with 'the'. The fashion is to spell it 'teh'. Why? How is that functional?
For those who practice this usage, (mostly the youth), I don't think that it's a matter of functionality, but rather, what is considered cool amongst them.

As with the "teh", it's spelled as they would pronounce its misspelling, (the emphasis on the "t" (let's say it'd sound much like to the word "ten", if there was a silent "n" in it).
IMO, is perfectly fine. It's a fad and as with all things in the fashion cycles, it, too, will pass.

I really don't bother paying attention with the misspellings or mispronunciation of other's. I take it with a grain of salt..to each their own....

What I have noticed more of lately, though, that I think is uncalled for amongst the youth interaction is how (or why) they address each other with extremely foul language and names..yet it's perfectly acceptable between them.
Again, to each their own..but in this case, if anyone were to approach me and address me as "hey, beotch...blah blah", I wouldn't stand for it, (even in jest).
That's where the line is crossed.

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Old May 01, 2010, 08:02 PM
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I would like to start out by saying that yes, this bothers me too. It is fine in texts but when people start using it in normal writing or even worse, spoken language, it drives me a bit batty.

Oddly enough though, if you were to present what is considered completely correct written text to someone who lived a couple hundred years ago, they would probably have a stroke. Language is a fluid thing, it lives and changes as time goes on. What we see as horrible butchery will be accepted as correct in a generation or two. Kind of crazy but that is just how it goes.
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I try not to look down on people for using txt speak but in certain situations it just seems silly to use it.

Sameera makes a good point though, language always has and always will be fluid, so I'm sure this will evolve language down the road in some form or another.
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Old May 02, 2010, 06:24 AM
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I do think it's funny when people who complain about grammar, spelling and punctuation make several grammar, spelling and punctuation mistakes in their own posts.

I also think it's sad that on a mental health website where most people are hoping to find acceptance and understanding that other people are so judging. Most people who have a mental illness have experienced some type of stigma or prejudice in their life as a result and I think it's sad that someone might come here, especially a teen, looking for help and acceptance and be discouraged from even posting because they're worried about making mistakes.



Life is way too short to stress out about something like this.
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Old May 02, 2010, 07:23 AM
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I do think it's funny when people who complain about grammar, spelling and punctuation make several grammar, spelling and punctuation mistakes in their own posts.

I also think it's sad that on a mental health website where most people are hoping to find acceptance and understanding that other people are so judging. Most people who have a mental illness have experienced some type of stigma or prejudice in their life as a result and I think it's sad that someone might come here, especially a teen, looking for help and acceptance and be discouraged from even posting because they're worried about making mistakes.



Life is way too short to stress out about something like this.
I agree. This is a site where other's are safe to post without judgement passed.

I think maybe though, those who are stating their disapproval of improper language use is merely stating an opinion.
I don't think anyone is intending to pass judgement, or mean any harm to anyone. And I can only hope that those who are reading these replies can understand that no harm is meant, nor should it discourage them from posting...(I hope it doesn't, anyway).

All I can say to those who may be sensitive to these replies (which may seem judgmental) is that you are no lesser than anyone else ESPECIALLY because you have your own preferred style of communications.

POST AWAY knowing you are safe to do so (without anyone slandering you for your personal style).

Iz a11 gud!!....

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Old May 02, 2010, 08:03 AM
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Does passing judgment have anything to do with the vapors?
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Old May 02, 2010, 08:19 AM
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Does passing judgment have anything to do with the vapors?
LOOOOOOOOOOL...Byz.
If it does...it's a good thing that it's all virtual, then....

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Old May 02, 2010, 09:20 AM
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Actually, I am disturbed by the fact that written language is in decline and most everything is going to digital media and all of the trappings associated with it. This is what I believe has led to most of the things pointed out in this thread. If you would like to think I'm a snob for pointing out this, so be it. As for the fluidity of language and its spellings, I completely understand this, but I have a very hard time thinking that it will one day be acceptable to spell words with out a single vowel in them. Also, even as few as a hundred years ago, most spelling was not standardized. So, from one person to the next you may find dramatically different spelling for the same words. Nowadays we do have standardized spellings and aside from the decline in the use of irregular verb conjugation (sleep: slept, dream: dreampt) most other words have stayed spelled the same.

I posted this in the general chat section because no one is required to read it for any reason what-so-ever. I listed in my title what it was about, so if anyone has a problem with it, do as I do when I don't like a title: don't read the thread.

Roseleigh7: Yes, this is a trigger for me, because the decline in education in general seems to be something that's perfectly acceptable. I don't think it's acceptable to not write coherently. If you are going to have the nerve to post something that says you are better than everyone here (because you do not judge others), I find it ironic that in your next post, you do in fact judge by pointing out the humor of grammatical, spelling and punctuation mistakes in a thread complaining about those exact mistakes. As for this being a mental health site and you finding this thread to be a put down, I think that sometimes we all are a little too sensitive to EVERYTHING. I, personally, don't like to have to try to read something that is splld lk ths. As far as I know, this isn't against any rule here.
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All I'm saying is I hate to see people be discouraged by worrying about things like this. That's all. I am sorry for offending you.
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Old May 02, 2010, 09:29 AM
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I wasn't in any way trying to discourage people. I was pointing out how sad and upsetting it is that people care nothing for the written language anymore. I apologize for singling you out to rant at. I am not trying to put anyone down. I am trying understand this decline.
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Old May 02, 2010, 09:46 AM
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I also did not mean to imply that I'm better than anyone else here. I am sorry if I came across that way. I was actually just teasing a little about the grammar, spelling and punctuation mistakes. I should have put a smilie or something. I am definitely NOT better than anyone or above anyone and I don't think of myself that way at all.

I click on "new posts" and read what looks interesting. I don't generally pay attention to what section it is posted in. I will be careful about that from now on. I was just posting my opinion. I don't go around with the intention of hurting people or being superior. I make as many mistakes as anyone. I am trying to develop the ability to laugh at myself about this so that my life is not so serious.

I very rarely post anyway and I wasn't really feeling sensitive about this. I guess I really screwed up though. Sigh.
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Old May 02, 2010, 10:14 AM
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I don't really see a problem with texting shorthand- I try to use correct grammar if I'm typing a post or speaking, but when I'm on the go and quickly texting a friend I'm not going to use perfect grammar. They're not going to use perfect grammar either. It's just easier to abbreviate when a text only has 140 characters worth of space or something like that. I can see not using it in a post that you've taken the time to write out, but if face-paced chat or texts it makes sense to me.

When I'm really nervous I don't like to type with any capital letters, they freak me out. Sometimes I won't use commas and it'll have odd spacing... maybe that made sense to me when I wrote it, even if it is incorrect. I don't see why that's such a crime. Maybe I'm misreading the tone of the thread. I didn't think grammar and spelling were so important on a support site. To each and their own, I guess.

I speak two languages and I get my languages mixed up sometimes. There's certain words I can never spell in English, and there are some expressions that don't translate properly. English really isn't an easy language... which makes it difficult for me to get annoyed at people who don't/can't use it properly. If I had someone jump down my throat or refuse to communicate with me every time I made a mistake in English or French, I probably wouldn't be able to speak any languages.
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