[seeker1950]

I've observed within the last year (maybe it's been longer and I was slow to notice) that showing cleavage is a fashion trend. I teach middle school and the young girls push the limits of dress code. Even some of the teachers do this. It used to be rare, but now it has become so common, it usually goes unnoticed,LOL. I say this though I realize the entire intention of a middle school girl wearing a pushup bra and a low cut camisole it to get attention! I've also noticed this trend on TV programs...like FBI females with low cut tops (don't they have dress uniforms?), or female news personalities with the same.
I'm not prudish by any stretch of the imagination, but it seems inappropriate to me...Maybe it's my age! Comments welcomed! Enlighten me if I'm wrong!
Patty

[Naturefreak]

I agree .... it's gotten way out of hand.

[Indie'sOK]

I'm 15 and I think that cleavage in school is pushing it. Bad enough high school girls do it, but middle school?

[seeker1950]

LOL, Babysteps...I love your posts here on PC!
Patty

[seeker1950]

Originally Posted by Indie

I'm 15 and I think that cleavage in school is pushing it. Bad enough high school girls do it, but middle school?

Thanks, Indie...You are a rare exception, I suspect!
Patty

[Julial]

I'm in agreement about the increase of bust exposure but maybe that's just 'cause I don't have any cleavage! lol!

[lynn P.]

I agree - I don't think girls should be showing cleavage in school at all. My daughters 12 and they're not allowed to wear spaghetti strap shirts in the summer and their shorts have to be long enough, where the bottom of the short is even with the middle finger. They state this is the newsletter, yet girls constantly wear short shorts. If I were the principle I would call the parent and say - bring your child some decent length shorts or pick your child up.

My 8 yr old was at a skipping competition recently and there were 2 girls age 7 who had on those tight spandex shorts - they were so short it showed their butt cheeks. I wouldn't want a whole gym full of mostly adults looking at my childs butt cheeks. So yes I agree cleavage has no place in schools and only used to be acceptable when going out at night.

[Sameera]

Try being in college at my age. The freshmen get away from home and lose any semblance of modesty that their parents may have held them to.

Of course trying to explain to most of the young girls I run into that showing so much really isn't helping them. Sure it might get them more "attention" but it wont be the kind that they want (I hope that isn't the kind of attention they want anyway). That it looks pretty immature and in more than a few cases does little more than make you question the character of the young woman dressed as such.

I wish it was better understood among these young ladies that it is easier to take them seriously when they aren't showing as much skin as possible. That they can look good and even be more interesting to the male folk if they find a way to look good without showing so much skin. Or the fact that most guys who have gotten to the point of really wanting longer term relationships and so on that they tend to want someone who acts and dresses like a woman, not some immature little girl.

Oh well, i'll just be happy that the woman I am with doesn't see the need to do such things and ignore the rest. Err, wow that all sounded a bit more harsh than I had planned but I guess the basic idea is there.

[Moreta]

Try being in college at my age. The freshmen get away from home and lose any semblance of modesty that their parents may have held them to.

Spring time on college campus = mating season

And waaaaaaay too many of the people wearing skimpy outfits shouldn't. -_-

But it doesn't even end at school. When you get into the workforce you deal with the same crap.

I do not understand it at all.

I was very annoyed when I developed the things--couldn't run, jump double dutch, and all the boys looked at me---so i wore my coat all through 5-high school indoors to hide my figure.

So I asked my mom: "What are they for, anyway?"
She replied matter of factly: "They are to feed babies with."
(She always stumped me with her answers--I just sighed)

If she were alive today, I'd ask her : "Okay ma, now I've breastfed two babies, and I want to know when they go away?"

She always said--"-less is more"," and leave something to the imagination".

I think it's vulgar. Probably why I enjoy old movies........blah blah
I'm old -----------interesting thread-thanks seeker--theo

[*freak*]

Well, I'm 21 and when I was in middle school lots of girls were already dressing like this. They also liked to wear pants with a purposely low rise to show off their super colorful thong...

I don't think it's distasteful, though I remember thinking it was inappropriate back then. I'd never dress like this (not even if I had something to show ) but it's so common now that it's become normal.

[Timgt5]

I find one of the strange things about America, is our strange obsession with Breasts. I think that one of the reasons that show cleavage is so titalating( parden the choice of words) is that we are taught they are "forbidden" of course that just instills in young men a greater desire to see, touch etc...

I find in other places, this kind of obsession does not seem to exist. I guess in Western Europe for example most beaches and lakeside allow for Toplessness and so going to those places there it is common to see girls and women uncovered. I guess one gets so used to seeing them in that environment that they do not hold the same level of interest as they do here in the states.

I am not suggesting by the way that young women in school or in the office run arround topless, or even in low cut outfits. In enviroments such as those all people should be expect to dress in a professional manner. The purpose of work and school is serious and should be taken as such.

[*freak*]

Timgt5, I live in Western Europe (Italy) and believe me, it's the same here.

"The Eyes are the Mirror of the Soul"--------------

Some men call themselves fans of the breasts, others call themselves fans of
legs; yet others call themselves fans of the bottoms--and all of them are seeing only the physical properties of a woman.

This is Objectification of the Female in our Society at its' worst-JMO!!!

When I look at anyone, I listen first, then, if I like what I hear; I look into their Eyes-------------------But that's just me--call me "seeker of the soul"-theo

[Sameera]

Originally Posted by theodora

"The Eyes are the Mirror of the Soul"--------------

Some men call themselves fans of the breasts, others call themselves fans of
legs; yet others call themselves fans of the bottoms--and all of them are seeing only the physical properties of a woman.

This is Objectification of the Female in our Society at its' worst-JMO!!!

When I look at anyone, I listen first, then, if I like what I hear; I look into their Eyes-------------------But that's just me--call me "seeker of the soul"-theo

Wait, you mean that there are things about a person that are important other than look? (sorry, couldn't resist the bad little joke there)

I agree with the idea in this post, I can't say that I follow those steps exactly but I agree with the ideas.

Sadly, many of the young males that I see on a regular basis don't seem to understand that you might actually want to pay attention to personality, intellect and other such aspects. The idea that they might actually want to get along with the woman doesn't seem to enter into it, they go after look alone and wonder why they can't keep a girlfriend for more than 2 weeks.

Bahhhh, I could keep going for a very long time about all of the crazy little things that the young guys at university do. I don't understand the vast majority of it, you would figure that after the 50 millionth time of going on looks and driving each other crazy they would learn. I'll stop while i'm ahead and spare you guys the whole rant.

Good day everyone.

Thanks Sameera; makes me think I'm not sooooo old.
Also, about wanting to rant more--so could I--about girls who starve themselves, bulemia etc.; all for what they should look like, instead of loving themselves for who they are. --------it's the content, not the wrapping-theo

[Alexandria04]

Originally Posted by theodora

Thanks Sameera; makes me think I'm not sooooo old.
Also, about wanting to rant more--so could I--about girls who starve themselves, bulemia etc.; all for what they should look like, instead of loving themselves for who they are. --------it's the content, not the wrapping-theo

I think that has a lot to do with the society we live in. How all the models in magazines and on t.v. are super skinny and such. Plus, in high school at least there is a lot of pressure to be skinny and look a certain way. I think if we emphasized more in the popular media that beauty is only skin deep and beauty is a relative conception anyway that some of this issue might resolve itself.

[Rhapsody]

Originally Posted by Indie

I'm 15 and I think that cleavage in school is pushing it.

I agree.... leave it for Friday Nights or Saturday Beach, but not in school (by student, teachers or principles).

[seeker1950]

Yes, Rhapsody,
It's actually impossible to enforce any kind of dress code re/excess cleavage if the teachers or staff are wearing plunging necklines, or super short skirts (we've had both!). Actually , I'm all for school uniforms, but it would never go over here in rural WV!
Patty

[IchbinkeinTeufel]

GUY HERE!!!

I agree!

It's unecessary.

I usually find that sorta thing unnatrative, TBH. Maybe it's because I'm not much of a breast guy, because I'm incredibly old school or because I believe in subtlety; either way, I think it's gotten outta control, too.

I think if we emphasized more in the popular media that beauty is only skin deep and beauty is a relative conception anyway that some of this issue might resolve itself.

I agree to that, but, let us be realistic, that won't happy any time soon, if ever. Unfortunately, most guys are... well... IMO... 'lame' and so, while there are guys like that, and girls that want guys like that, there'll, IMO, always be advert's and other shallow commercial bullcrap. (sorry if I'm being offensive, it's 3am and I'm nackered)

[50guy]

I know that it is more prevalent than when I was a young man. Men are visual beings. We are mostly motivated by what we see and by imagination. The problem is there is no mystery when a woman reveals herself so seductivly. Men like to persue but, when it is offered up so freely, they will take the opportunity to view what they can and imagine the rest.

[IchbinkeinTeufel]

Hmm! Interesting take, 50guy... and I'm inclined to agree with a lot of it...

[englishteacher]

It's sad that girls now find that it "cool" to show so much skin. Of course, in Europe and other countries do not have the same "prudish" ideas as Americans, but still, I think it's gone too far. The girls look like they don't value anything but their bodies. Of course, when I was a kid in the 70s, girls who ran around in short shorts and tube or tank tops were considered slutty. Now almost all of them do it. It's just the style....like the bright colored bras and thongs that they wear so that they show. It may be the style, but it's tacky. I'm still in favor of leaving a little mystery...

[englishteacher]

Oh - and does anyone else wonder if the hormones they are giving cows to increase their milk are making girls who drink grow bigger boobs? Growing up I was one of the only girls with DD boobs, but now it seems like the norm. Strange....

[Sameera]

Originally Posted by englishteacher

Oh - and does anyone else wonder if the hormones they are giving cows to increase their milk are making girls who drink grow bigger boobs? Growing up I was one of the only girls with DD boobs, but now it seems like the norm. Strange....

Actually that is attributed to diets that are higher in fat than what was being consumed years ago.

A womans body is dependent on fat content in order to enter puberty. When the correct level is reached the body starts the changes. (This is why some gymnasts do not enter puberty until after they stop being gymnasts, there are 20+ year old women who have not gone through puberty yet due to things like this. It also happens with eating disorders quite a bit.)

Due to the diets that are higher in fat content today young girls are entering puberty at a younger age than seen previously, also because one of the major contributors to breast size is caloric intake young women are developing larger breasts more quickly.

In general entering puberty sooner is not a bad thing, the worry is that the diet is doing more than that though. A concern is of course the effects of a diet that contains over 40% caloric content at such a young age. The gene that controls the bodies ability to store fat is triggered at this level of caloric content and leads the body to be more efficient at storing fat. This has the effect of making a person more likely to be over weight and also makes it more difficult for them to lose or maintain a more "normal" body weight based on size and body type. Epigenetics trigger DNA changes most easily during childhood and through puberty, this is why this is such a crucial time to maintain a healthy diet and lifestyle so that you do not end up paying for poor choices for the rest of your life. However more and more we are seeing young people go with quick foods that do not make for healthy choices.

Wow, I did not intend to write so much on that, it just sort of happened. The sad fact is this is sort of cutting the explanation short and leaving a bit out.

Good day.