Am I a "mirror" narcissist?

somat
We demonstrate that narcissism in children is cultivated by parental overvaluation:
No we don't. One minute narcissism is about 'over valuation' next minute its about parental neglect!

Narcissism is genetic. The child might be neglected, it might be over valued, it might be treated well.
Why is my middle sister a narcissist and other siblings not? Why? when we were all emotionally neglected?
Its not about nurture, tho nurture is hugely important it does not cause narcissism or psychopathy. They are born that way.

just because freud said something that does not make it untrue. we still believe many things to be true that go back 100 years. einstein, anyone?
Eiensteins theories are constantly tested, if they are still believed it is because science has proven them.

He’s been dead for nearly 70 years, but Sigmund Freud’s provocative theories are still a huge part of psychology, neuroscience, and culture — this despite the fact that many of his ideas were mindboggingly, catastrophically wrong.

Freud just won’t go away because he is credited for kindling a revolution. He began a different way of looking at the human condition.
Why Freud Still Matters, When He Was Wrong About Almost Everything

somat.
note that these are all academic journal articles published relatively recently...
Interesting.
BUT. My observations of narcissists/psychopaths are from personal experience over many years.
I have not read much in the way of 'academic journals'. I find much of it psychobabble and not relating to real life.

i did not write it, it was a quote from an academic paper by people who have devoted their lives to studying this... so, argue with them, though i would learn more about a study and the topic before dismissing a leader in the field.

how do you know the roots of narcissism using anecdotes when there are people out there doing research.... this is getting far too absurd.

Dunno about all that somat.
I do know that I have worked with young teens with attachment issues. Foster children that have been pushed from pillar to post.
I know that if a child is to be adopted that need to happens A.S.A.P the younger the baby/child the more likely the adoption is to be successful.

In severe cases of neglect, like with Romanian orphans R.A.D causes an total inability to attach.
My guess is that maybe the amydala (shown to play a key role in the processsing of emotions) because of lack of stimulation, has atrophied.

Attachment disorder is not the same as narcissism, but similar in that there is a lack of empathy in both disorders.

I appreciate you taking the time to share your thoughts with me. The covert kinds of evil... Those are often more dangerous in a way. In your face kinds of evil, those kinds are easier to stay clear of. Covert, well of course that means it's secretive... Hiding in little nooks and crannies you don't find out about until the damage has been done...

Somat.
"how do you know the roots of narcissism using anecdotes when there are people out there doing research.... this is getting far too absurd."

Somat, I think I find myself offended. These are not 'anecdotes' This is my life!
My life is absurd to you?

People out there 'doing research' f##k 'research' I'VE LIVED IT (unfortunately)

so something is only an anecdote if it is about somebody else? seems a bit... i wont say it.

using my experiences it appears that the sun goes around the earth and not the other way around. however, i know that my experience is limited in its ability to act as scientific truth so i trust those who study these matters. i can do so without dismissing my own experience.

research follows other people who have lived it... i have also lived it... but you dont seem to want to use any of that as evidence. if your way is truth and no one else has anything that can change it, why post? i never questioned your experience, i questioned using your experience as the truth of all narcissism.

i did not say your life is absurd, this thread is getting absurd.

What is it about October and fighting in the NPD forum? This is the second year in a row.

so something is only an anecdote if it is about somebody else? seems a bit... i wont say it.
Um.

I have dealt with R.A.D in real life not just through books. But don't let little things like that bother you.

Go back to reading your books.

Oh dear. I think I'll leave this thread now. Still enjoyed the fight tho

Always knew my threads were legendary, and cause quite the stir.

I even got "The Underground" himself to post several times in my thread, without much effort other than an initial post.

[QUOTE=StbGuy;4747185]Always knew my threads were legendary, and cause quite the stir.

I even got "The Underground" himself to post several times in my thread, without much effort other than an initial post

I have blessed your post be grateful, don't be so arrogant it's not very nice!!!! Ha ha ha "The Underground" has posted again. I know this makes you feel extra special. When I comment to someone it always makes then feel warm and gushy inside. I have this effect on people all too often. Your welcome stbguy!! Just be careful or else war will begin and you won't want that..... Just look back and see what happened to the last one, he has diagnosed himself twelve times with thirteen different outcomes since them. Weakness is always beneath me!!! Big shout out to my bffer Atypical thought. She gets me like Jerry McGuire.... If I wasn't married I would run her shi@!!!! Ha ha ha ha aha and you know this man!!!!!

Arrogant? Me? Never! Awwh, what do you mean? I'm an extremely nice guy! (And extra special already! )

Hey, don't blame me, blame mother nature and the laws of attraction. Greatness attracts greatness. Admit it, you're drawn to my posts and threads, because they are the only ones that act as the channel that allows The Underground to express himself in his true full flamboyance and to his true potential. I bring out the best in you. The pleasure's all mine.

Awwh buddy, no need for a war. Your place has already been prepared for you in my kingdom of greatness. Only a select few have the honor.

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Aw I feel so loved! HA HA HA!

And my my... People never learn now do they? Lol.

Cheers my dark friend! I'll keep being the "chill" for you, remember? Heheheheh.

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That's a really good point. I've noticed people use "mother/father" instead of "mom/dad" or "mummy/daddy". It's highly respectful, but indicates no warmth or love really, and a lot of coldness from the parent which the child is clearly picking up.

I can't ever recall calling my father "daddy" when I was a boy, when I addressed him, or going to him to ask him "Daddy, can you help me with X...?" And then of course from about 10 I vowed never to ask him anything again after yet another temper tantrum because I asked him to do something for me.

Hmm yes, now that I think about it I always use the words "mother", "father", and heck I say "my mother's husband" instead of "father" even! It's not that I'm even holding a grudge or anything, I just see my parentals the same way I see others; in that cold, clinical, creepy psycho way... Heh.

Why don't we all go see out families and call them mommy and daddy, sing kumbia while we constantly hug!!! Stop with all the boringness your making me sleepy!!!

Are you crazy? I don't wanna go hug my dad. Damn.

Actually I am a lil but crazy.... Stop denying it you love daddy!!!

If I don't, who else will? LOL

Oooooohhhh burn!

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Now if I was referring to myself as daddy maybe we could say "burn" (big maybe) but I was actually talking about the man that did his thing to create you. Your real daddy, kinda weird that you want me to be the daddy here. The two of you should be ashamed. Now come on kids daddies here.... Ha ha ah ha

LOL!

Yes, I understand what you meant. Please try to keep up Atypical!

You're making me smile. Glad you both are entertaining yourselves!

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I pretty much make everyone smile. I'm magical like that!!