[Sanada]

What is you're mental health problem if not defined by a Pdoc or T.

Mine is still to be defined by expert's. I am my own best PDoc, and doc for meds.

I can praticaly prescribe my own meds, i'm not a doc or anything.

My mental health problem is about control to me, i am a control freak.

What are you.................a question is posed, what do you say.

Tell me i'm a mess, tell me i need help.

Please respond only with truth, i am a mess, so ignore this as a mental person (me) writing this, remember i'm almost in hosp. So anybody whom thinks they are above this, dont ans this.

I need bettter help, i dont get it.

Except here @ PC.

PC is my help.

Thanks.
Take Care.
Sanada.

[my3sns]

Sanada are you asking what our mental health issue is (either defined or not defined by a doc)? Or are you asking what we think your mental health issue is ? And just to add i have been hospitalized several times ...that doesnt make anyone less than ......it simply means they needed help and were able to get it. I just wish i knew what you needed from this post... sorry im slow sometimes

[SoupDragon]

Hi Sanada - sorry that things are difficult for you right now, but good that you are posting on here if you feel PC helps you. I have had discussions with my T about the diagnosis / label thing and we decided against it and instead just to focus on my difficulties. My T believes that we are all a little bit of this and that at different times. I have a whole heap of problems that I am working through, but just a really small step at a time. Sounds like you too know about your difficulities when you mention about control. Sending positive vibes to you Sanada, keep posting if it helps. SD

[yellowted]

hi sanda, sorry things are tough for you, i can totally connect with this as although i have a dx of dissociative motor disorder, my care team are questioning it , they all agree my symptoms are not typical or reacting to treatment as they thought i should, but do not know what else to call my symptoms, and so have virtually given up on treating me yet are unwilling to help me get my home adapted to my needs as a wheelchair bound person caused by my symptoms! like you i am the expert on me and although they admit they do not know what to do they are unwilling to listen to what i say needs doing!

[Sanada]

Thanks for the reply's. I never had been in mental health hosp (almost), but not yet.
I am able bodied and I thank the Lord for that; (my sister was in a wheelchair, and i remember thinking that it was not fair for her, she died when i was young).
My mental health problems come from not being able to deal with the world I live in, I feel surrounded by monsters and devils who do not care about what is happening to their own enviroment. This seems wrong (to not care for the future or ones fellow humans).

I self medicate but I dont think that helps.

I guess my question was, 'just what is mental health problems'. Where does the line begin and the line end when looking at mental health problems. Will the world keep coming up with more undefined ones or will there be a line where it stops.

If any whom reads this have a look @ my post in Grief and Loss (Titled; Trigger R.I.P), did my problems start there or is my problems just a part of life or 'Totaly Unatural'.

[protector1973]

when i had a mental melt down, i was thrown in prison, no such luck as being taken to hospital. in prison theres no help just underlying subconscious predatory behaviour, designed to world outside mode of operating, treat me bad i treat you bad.

[Secretum]

((Sanada))

I'm glad that you feel supported here on PC, but you need help "in real life" too. Otherwise can be really hard and lonely. : ( Is there anyway that you could see a therapist? I know that there is a lot of information on this site about finding low-cost therapy.

The line between mental health and illness is quite blurred. The definitions of individual diagnoses were decided upon by the committees of psychiatrists who write the DSM. Many people question these boundaries, and ultimately they are just human arbitration.

I think the concept of mental illness is very real, however. A mental illness, to me, is any set of thoughts, emotions, or behaviors that cause distress that is either a). very intense b). prolonged or c). bad enough to interfere with the individuals daily functioning. These criteria are still subjective...the line between mental health a sickness really is hard to define!

[Open Eyes]

Oh ((((((((Sanada))))))) sorry you are having a difficult day or that you feel confused.

The truth is that the only one you can control is yourself. You can voice your opinion and you can try to help others. But the only real control you are going to have is your own sense of well being. There are always going to be things about the world and the people in it that are going to be upsetting. And those situations are going to remind you how little control you have. But you are not alone in that feeling. Everyone struggles with that in their own way. And your right, PC are full of people who have one issue or another that has something related to control.

So I have to say that some of what you feel is probably normal. And there is no real normal, everyone has an issue, it is called being human.

You have to start by being kind to yourself and learn how to love and accept yourself. And many of the people here at PC are trying to do just that. That is where you begin. And for some people, that is a life time effort. And the truth is that we are all unique and yes there are people who have certain labels that have similar issues and it is nice to know that we are not alone with whatever is not perfect in us.

And you have to know your limitations too Sanada. No one person can solve the worlds problems. The best way to work at that is to focus in a small area that you can find a way to reach out. If everyone did that we would be much better off.
Even if all one can do is come to PC and reach out to help others, it still makes a difference. If something I say to you makes you feel better in anyway, than I have made a small difference in someone today. Just as if others that are posting today make a difference to another in their path, than that is good too.

I actually was having a bad day today myself. I was struggling and then I got some PMs that really, really helped. But had I never made any effort to begin with, than no one including me would have been helped.

Just keep trying Sanada. Your not going to have everything you want, no one does.
But you have a good heart and you deserve to take time to find more comfort in yourself. If that means that you need to go to the hospital than do what you need for yourself. We are here when you need someone to listen.

And Secretum is right. If you have problems that really interfere with your everyday life as she describes than there is nothing wrong with seeking guidance from a therapist.

Open Eyes

[Sanada]

Originally Posted by Secretum

((Sanada))

I'm glad that you feel supported here on PC, but you need help "in real life" too. Otherwise can be really hard and lonely. : ( Is there anyway that you could see a therapist? I know that there is a lot of information on this site about finding low-cost therapy.

The line between mental health and illness is quite blurred. The definitions of individual diagnoses were decided upon by the committees of psychiatrists who write the DSM. Many people question these boundaries, and ultimately they are just human arbitration.

I think the concept of mental illness is very real, however. A mental illness, to me, is any set of thoughts, emotions, or behaviors that cause distress that is either a). very intense b). prolonged or c). bad enough to interfere with the individuals daily functioning. These criteria are still subjective...the line between mental health a sickness really is hard to define!

thank you very much. I need definitions sometimes. A very good reply. Boundaries are blurred sometimes, untill some one (you're self normaly), get hurt, you are right on that deff. Thats when its the jobs of others to intervine.
Thank You.

[Sanada]

Originally Posted by Open Eyes

Oh ((((((((Sanada))))))) sorry you are having a difficult day or that you feel confused.

The truth is that the only one you can control is yourself. You can voice your opinion and you can try to help others. But the only real control you are going to have is your own sense of well being. There are always going to be things about the world and the people in it that are going to be upsetting. And those situations are going to remind you how little control you have. But you are not alone in that feeling. Everyone struggles with that in their own way. And your right, PC are full of people who have one issue or another that has something related to control.

So I have to say that some of what you feel is probably normal. And there is no real normal, everyone has an issue, it is called being human.

You have to start by being kind to yourself and learn how to love and accept yourself. And many of the people here at PC are trying to do just that. That is where you begin. And for some people, that is a life time effort. And the truth is that we are all unique and yes there are people who have certain labels that have similar issues and it is nice to know that we are not alone with whatever is not perfect in us.

And you have to know your limitations too Sanada. No one person can solve the worlds problems. The best way to work at that is to focus in a small area that you can find a way to reach out. If everyone did that we would be much better off.
Even if all one can do is come to PC and reach out to help others, it still makes a difference. If something I say to you makes you feel better in anyway, than I have made a small difference in someone today. Just as if others that are posting today make a difference to another in their path, than that is good too.

I actually was having a bad day today myself. I was struggling and then I got some PMs that really, really helped. But had I never made any effort to begin with, than no one including me would have been helped.

Just keep trying Sanada. Your not going to have everything you want, no one does.
But you have a good heart and you deserve to take time to find more comfort in yourself. If that means that you need to go to the hospital than do what you need for yourself. We are here when you need someone to listen.

And Secretum is right. If you have problems that really interfere with your everyday life as she describes than there is nothing wrong with seeking guidance from a therapist.

Open Eyes

thank you open eyes.
wow, thanks alot. Fantastic advise and i'll be taking it on board. That means i'll be reading this reply more than a few times.
Thank You.
Take Care.

[shikantaza]

Hi Sanada,


Maybe this might help you, maybe not. Try to keep and open mind about things.. I am a ACOA (Adult Child of Alcoholics) and get great relief from those meetings. A lot of folks who come to the meeting didn't have parents that were alcoholics but came from dysfunctional homes and had (mentally ill parents, or relatives). Read the 20 questions below. If some might apply to you, and sound to me like they might. Try a ACOA meeting, we welcome everybody and you find friends get to talk and find a lot of healing. It has done worlds of good for me.


Best of luck!



1. Do you constantly seek approval and affirmation?
2. Do you fail to recognize your accomplishments?
3. Do you fear criticism?
4. Do you overextend yourself?
5. Have you had problems with your own compulsive behavior?
6. Do you have a need for perfection?
7. Are you uneasy when your life is going smoothly, continually anticipating problems?
8. Do you feel more alive in the midst of a crisis?
9. Do you still feel responsible for others, as you did for the problem drinker in your life?
10. Do you care for others easily, yet find it difficult to care for yourself?
11. Do you isolate yourself from other people?
12. Do you respond with fear to authority figures and angry people?
13. Do you feel that individuals and society in general are taking advantage of you?
14. Do you have trouble with intimate relationships?
15. Do you confuse pity with love, as you did with the problem drinker?
16. Do you attract and/or seek people who tend to be compulsive and abusive?
17. Do you cling to relationships because you are afraid of being alone?
18. Do you mistrust your own feelings and the feelings expressed by others?
19. Do you find it difficult to identify and express your emotions?
20. Do you think parental drinking may have affected you?