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Old May 03, 2006, 07:35 PM
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I never thought other members were also involved in this... oh my.......now i am wondering who the other folks were that were involved in this dirty deed.. they are as guilty as sleeps is... in my opinion........... grrrrrrrrrrr at people and their hatefulness
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Old May 03, 2006, 07:43 PM
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I don't know. I don't think anyone else was involved, maybe knew about it. I don't know.

I'd like to hope things are safe again, or as safe as they used to be.
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Old May 03, 2006, 07:51 PM
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In my opinion, if other folks knew what sleeps was planning, they should have alerted the admins or Doc John.. It would have been the "decent" thing to do.....
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Old May 03, 2006, 07:54 PM
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To my knowledge, there was NO other member involved in this act. Sleeps was pretty up front, again to my knowledge, about this.

I think we have enough to deal with already. I think speculating about who may or may not have known, acted, etc would cause much more harm than good right now.

Let's deal with what we know. Whew, that's a big one in itself.

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Old May 03, 2006, 10:04 PM
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Wow, I just spent the last 45 or so minutes getting caught up on what's been happening. I'm shocked....very frightening. A good reminder that just because this community is confined to the box on my desk, doesn't mean it can't effect my life. Scary, very scary.
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Old May 03, 2006, 10:48 PM
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I sure hope KD is correct and that sleeps was the lone perp. I am so disappointed already, I would just puke if it was a conspiracy, or that someone else knew what was planned and didn't squeel.... and over junk food??????? Puhleeze, this whole thing leaves me speechless. I may just go ahead and puke and get it out of my system.
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Old May 03, 2006, 11:18 PM
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I'm still confused. What exactly happened? If I'm understanding right, one member (or more? And it was Sleeps?) attacked another (wi_fighter?) by revealing personal information from these boards to people the other knew, and somehow this prevented wi_fighter from getting a dog? Sorry, but there's so many posts, and I've got a lot to do, so it would be easier if someone would post the details in one post, or point me to such a post.

There's no guarantee of privacy. As I pointed out in another thread, it doesn't take much effort on Google and The Wayback Machine (and I'm sure other search engines) to find old posts.
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Old May 03, 2006, 11:27 PM
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ok here it is.....sleeps told a friend about some post wi-fighter had made and had said friend call the pet adoption agency to come here and see the post. that is what cause wi not to be able to adopt her dog.
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Old May 03, 2006, 11:30 PM
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that's the Reader's Digest condensed version.
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I'd greatly prefer we not continue to point fingers and implicate others through pure innuendo when Sleeps has already taken full responsibility for her actions. I see no good coming from continuing this thread if its going to start veering down the conspiracy path...

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Old May 03, 2006, 11:47 PM
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Gotcha. It's a shame that happened. Well, I do wish you well, wi_fighter, with your new dog. I forgot to post in the other thread that she's a real beauty.
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Old May 04, 2006, 01:49 AM
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I can't believe Sleeps did this! Didn't PC just give her a large donation due to a need she had? I don't understand this at all. I hate losing a friend and at the same time I'm feeling betrayed and confused. If anyone would care to help me understand this please email me at ....susan@ozzieblackcat.com

I'd like to wish all of us a quick recovery from these recent events. I know how it feels to have hurt the community, so I also hope Sleeps is doing okay right now.
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Old May 04, 2006, 04:26 AM
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Wow, I am surprised at what went on in the time I have been away from here. WI, I am glad that you went on from this & have plans for adoption the beautiful black Lab in the photo. Looks like a wonderful family companion.......a friend for life......with all the unconditional love that I have found all dogs to have. A new member of the family like that is a great way to focus your attention on.

This situation is definitely a trigger for what I just went through about 1 year ago when my mother was dying of cancer. I know how horrible it is to give out too much personal information & have it turned on you, causing grief beyond anything that could be imagined.

In real life, I had this happen when my Mothe's boyfriend was from her church, & his daughter was invited into our family's relationship. She invited me to stay with her when my Mother was in the hospital....chatting, I let out information about my life after I ended up in my deep depression. I have no idea how much my Mother had told her father, but the daughter invited a RN friend of hers that lived across the street from her father (my mothers boyfriend) to talk to me & provide my mother with home care nursing so she wouldn't have to be put into a nursing home. When I caught the RN pulling ID theft using my mothers ID & then she had the police called to have me accused of abusing my Mother, I ended up filling a report with Adult Protective Services, they suggested that I tell the boyfriend & his daughter about what happened. They denied it & wouldn't listen, then the daughter proceeded on telling my Mother's pastor about the information that I had opened up with. Soon after that, I got a threat from the pastor to back off on the filling against the RN or "my past will come back to haunt me". I didn't let that stop me, but those words are stuck in my mind. Since then, I do not share much of my past with anyone, isolating myself pretty much & making sure that nothing about my past comes out anymore.

It is scarry not knowing what information people can take & use against us when we are least expecting anything, & especially in a situation that doesn't seem like it would even matter to anyone else. It is hard to realize that we can't be open & that we have to guard every word that we say or write in order to protect ourselves.

I am so sorry this happened to you, & in this community which is supposed to be very supportive. I am very glad that you and your kids are able to get past this & on with your family life, making the best that you can from the situation you were put into. I wish you the best with your new puppy dog, & your love is just what this new doggy is in need of too.

My best thoughts are with you & your family, Hugz,
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Old May 04, 2006, 08:30 AM
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I don't understand it either. She just gets a huge outpouring of support, and this is how she repays it. On privacy and membership here

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Thank you for sharing. I know it must hurt to bring up old wrongs.
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Old May 04, 2006, 09:22 AM
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I'm having a really hard time grasping people supporting Sleeps through this. I can't distinguish support for her from support for the action. So if you voice your sadness for her, it feels, to me, like you're voicing approval of what she did, blaming me for being attacked, like I asked for it.

It makes me very fearful that those people are going to pick up with me where she left off.
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Old May 04, 2006, 01:46 PM
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I feel that if people are going to this to other members they should be banned and never to return,If they can't use the site right Thy shouldn't be here in the frist place, Just maybe they is why that some members have left. On privacy and membership here
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W1, i hope you know how truly sorry that i am that you're still so scared. i'm surprised that there is sympathy for sleeps. mixed messages are terribly unfair to you. i don't understand it either.

i've always said "i have your back"....i'm not so sure of it now as it doesn't seem as if i can help protect others. i've said things that were misconstrued here and i'm heartbroken about it. all i hope for PC is this: safety, comfort, truth, trust and loyalty..along with support. "i'm going to try to keep having your back"...and i am, hopefully, going to be a tough enough ole broad to come through when it's needed. love, pat
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Old May 04, 2006, 03:28 PM
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i am very disapointed that this ever happened , but when i found who it was i was even more disapointed , i am having a hard time digesting this at the moment because i oppened up and told her about some of mine and my hubbys problems ,
why do ppl go out of there way to hurt other ppl in real and even here i just understand anymore
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AOL and other ISPs have it so that you can have a number of different email names and you can keep changing them. So, having somebody register is not going to make it any safer.
I'm sure a lot of people have registered under numerous of names for all kinds of reasons and unfortuneately some of those reasons will be to play mean games with people.
I'm sorry what happened to you happened, WI_Fighter, it was mean and malicious.
Trust is already hard enough for most of us to give because of issues we've already had to deal with.
Things like that don't help and it only makes the rest of the members paranoid. (Like I need the encouragement?)
Anyway, I just wanted to point out that requiring people to become members is not going to make it any safer. It would be a false sense of security if it were to go into effect, at best.
It's a risk we take whenever we sign in online.
I'm glad you got a new puppy!!!! On privacy and membership here Good luck with him!
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Old May 04, 2006, 04:39 PM
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now this is unnerving isn't it?
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Old May 04, 2006, 04:43 PM
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one can always get a new email account. I didn't know aol could not be banned. well I will just keep my mouth shut about serious issues from now on
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Old May 04, 2006, 04:47 PM
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I am shocked to hear so many people thinking that this was a secure site in the first place.
If you allow people to know where you are, who you are etc it doesn't serve as protection.
Also, even if you had to become a member to log on and read posts, we already have seen the damage.
And, you can copy and paste posts, print posts , there is even an icon to email posts directly from the site.
So, really, membership isn't going to stop a potential terrorist from this site and sabotage what they want to sabotage.

It is one thing to post how you are dealing with your day, your illness etc. But, when you start totally personalizing your posts, your BIO, your pix then that is where the threat of security breach comes into play.
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Old May 04, 2006, 04:51 PM
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I completely agree. I have seen this on other sites and was the victim of a couple of them, but those sites could also ban the IP address.
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