Orthorexia-ednos-other ed's????

Hi there Girls & Boys n 'others'! So...............whats this new(?) type of eating disorder? Before you quickly bail out thinking that it's yet another plug on teenage anorexia/bulimia - serious as they are of course, but they've had a great deal of press coverage. Orthorexia is basically under the umbrella of EDNOS (eating disorders not otherwise specified). It's been adopted by an older more 'health conscios' body of people, interestingly more often than not males. It starts of as wanting to eat more 'healthily', or 'clean' as some say. Keeping down fats, carbs, processed and unpure food groups. Often it's combined with heavy exercise regimes, hence of interest to males. This can lead to gradually cutting down, and eventually cutting OUT, anything that's considered by the person (called a sufferer by now) bad and unpure. There becomes a huge nutritional deficit which can lead to various depletions and even illnesses, of which the sufferer is unaware, mainly because they have a fixation on their 'righteous' eating. The first person to have experienced this was actually an MD - a Dr. This is not yet included in the DSM 5 (the guide that consultants use to define and diagnose categories & criteria of mental disoders/illnesses). However, because a 'sufferer' doesn't often become emaciated or apparently 'ill', it can easily go on for years. The sad part is that this regime cuts out all social events, severs friendships and devides families. Has anybody any comments?

I have heard of this....not by name but by the symptoms many years ago when I was dealing with treatment issues for anorexia.......

It was something that I could now relate to because when we look at the contents of the food we buy & refuse to purchase anything with "high fructose", MSG, anything related to GMO......& then I read this article on face book how the US is passing meat through inspection that has cancerous tumors after cutting out the tumor....like the cancer hadn't spread through the body/blood & they definitely aren't processing the meat in a kosher manor.......

There are many times I go into the grocery store & just want to throw up or run out instead of buying anything......I can seriously understand this as unless you close off your mind to these things happening & understanding that our food is poisening us.......one would definitely STOP EATING......as it's very difficult to find what is good quality food to eat.

Always loved to exercise....it made me feel healthy.....even though I was mostly doing it in place of eating lunch....racquettball with the guys was so much more challeging (expecially when I beat them).....always have enjoyed being competitive with guys....but also always felt much healthier.......I can definitely understand this thinking & mentality. In some ways anyone who is seriously conscious about eating healthy food might fall a small bit under this umbrella.....

Just some of my thoughts on this since these food issues regarding GMO & meat inspection has been top on my list of reading lately & a concern of my other friends who have never had an ED of any kind.

So would that mean vegans/vegetarians have an eating disorder? Or is it only when they exercise heavily on top of that. Meat and dairy are gross and I refuse to eat them. Plus, I get a lot more calcium and protein avoiding meat and dairy than I ever did eating meat and dairy.

Are they cutting fruits and vegetables too? Otherwise, I find it difficult to see how they're not getting enough nutrients (unless they're lacking protein while body-building…but that would happen with any diet. That's why there are protein shakes).

Thanks Eskie, for your comments. Yes, I def agree that there's a lot of folk who honestly DON'T have ed's, but who do share most of these views. It's almost impossible to eat the way we would really like to, unless we actually grow/raise all of our own food source. I'm even horrified about whats in my doggies food, but I'm working on that. Boiled chicken breast once a day (free range maize fed), fresh veg (it says organic). Dried food is an excellent range here in the UK called ''raw nature''. It's totally additive free, no nothing except free range animals/arable from their own farm (which you can visit) with a short shelf life (good thing). I do suffer (if that's the right word, Orthorexia, though the official DX is ''atypical anorexia'' BUT I severely restrict these days due to IBS and diverticulitis. I agree with your comments on everything really Eskie. We have to find our own way, which suites our lifestyle and keeps us healthy. I don't mind my ''lable'', I have a few!!!!!!!!!! HUGZZ and LOVES. XXXXXXX

Hi. Thanks for your comments. No, def not normally - vegans/vegies I mean. I don't eat any meat or any loosely animal related 'stuff', well, as far as I know! It's very hard to trust what's written on packets etc. Guess we can only do our best by ourselves really. My friend has vegan doggies and cats and their health is incredible, you can actually SEE how well they are!! So, as animals can't be effected by the whole 'hard sell healthy', it's obvious it's genuinely good!! HUGZZ and LOVES. xxxxxxxxxxx

I have little money, therefore meat is'nt much of an option It is black beans with brown rice which we get from the food charity pantry, plus some fresh onions and squash, canned vegatables, and even some bread if it's a good day

I think I know a few that has this, one is a recovered anorexic. What might make them different from other sufferers is that they make food their mission and everyone that doesn't eat exactly like them "wants to be ill" and if I'm not well it's blamed on food at once and on my "gross" eating habits.

I have to say, it does affect me and I have become to believe my eating habits are completely horrifying. I try to eat well for the little money I have and I don't get a lot of processed food at all and a lot of veg. But that is not the way, I'm bombarded with.

I'm told about all the unhealthy things I need to cut out of my diet, like all gluten food, all dairy, all beans and lentils, all nightshade, all non free roaming meat, most starches, some fruit and of course all processed and non organic stuff.

I do feel bad now for eating those horrible starchy veggies and having milk. Maybe I deserve to be ill? Maybe it is true every illness WOULD go away if I was stricter?

Also I eat too much. They eat one eco egg and that is dinner. Their eating seems healthy to me so it's so close assuming it's actually me and not them. But then I see the aggression they show when questioned the slightest, they go completely mad at me, then I realize maybe their ways are not the best?

I really have no idea..... I'm so torn here.

I have heard of it. For me, when I was sick, that's how my eating disorder started. First I cut out red meat, then I started to exercise more and eat "clean" foods. Then I started restricting more and more. And then it became a real problem. It's hard for me to balance now between eating healthy and am I getting sick again. It's a bit triggering sometimes.

As far as I know it's not technically classified as an eating disorder in terms of the DSM or ICD codes, but it can lead to trouble if someone starts with maladaptive behaviors such as restricting, purging, or over-excerising.

3 years ago when I turned paleo and started CrossFit I was told I was Orthorexic. If they only knew I was actually Bulimic.

Well, I'm very glad I started this thread!! Lots of comments and mostly constructive and informative!! Thankyou!! I myself have atypical anorexia, EDNOS and Orthorexia. I guess they are disorders of wealthy countries, but I have no hard and fast evidence. I was just interested what others would say or what they thought in general. I send you HUGZZ.

Just a thought...after hearing & reading some things lately...wonder what our mentality might be towards the ED's we deal with when survival becomes the state we live in (thinking financial collapse). Thinking it just might be so focused on survival that WHAT we eat/don't eat becomes irrelevant.....

Waggie, your comment about it being the wealthy countries illness makes a lot of sense. People in countries that are starving are thankful for any food they can get while we choose to starve ourselves or pick out only certain foods we are WILLING to eat

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