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Jun 10, 2007, 07:28 PM
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Kelley (samoyed mix) broke out again...braving the shock collar and breaking the pickets on the gate after I removed the wire mesh which she was climbing to break out. I'm very depressed. I drove around (again for the umpteenth time) and found her down the street. I went to Rite Aid (only place open nearby) and bought two lengths of 12 ft chain and have her on one of them right now, chained to the back porch where she can go down in the grass or up on the porch for food and water. Maybe i'm imagining this because of all the trouble she's caused, but she even seems to have a different LOOK ...cunning and angry! I don't intend to keep a dog that has to be chained all the time, but don't know what to do!!! Would it be inhumane to have her put to sleep??? I know how cruel this sounds, but who else could care for her as I have?
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Jun 10, 2007, 07:50 PM
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Seeker, make sure she can't jump over something and hang herself like my Anatolian did!
 Sure sounds like she's not happy with you anymore. Maybe it's the pup? Think long and hard about which one is more important to you.
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Jun 10, 2007, 07:56 PM
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Tomi,
She was breaking out before I got the pup, and I thought maybe having a friend would make her more content, but NOT! The Golden pup stays home without the need for the shock collar, but I fear Kelley will teach her to do the running soon! I've pretty much made up my mind to get rid of Kelley...cruel, I know! I am truly depressed, but she has ruined this entire weekend and has been doing this for many months now. Patty |
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Jun 10, 2007, 08:07 PM
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Seeker, even animals have to pay the consequences of their actions. IMO, it would be more cruel to keep her tied up. Dogs get mean when they're tied up all the time. I know I would, too!
I'm glad I'm not in your position, though. It's a tough place to be. But I certainly understand! Best wishes to you in this difficult decision. 
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Jun 10, 2007, 08:13 PM
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I saw that the Tractor Supply Store had long metal aerial lines that can be strung across the yard to which one can then attach the chained dog. Maybe I should try that, giving her some freedom in the yard....I see no other solution other than taking her to the pound ( a high kill shelter) or just having her outright euthanized. I'm just disgusted and depressed right not...maybe feel better after a hot bath and good night's sleep!
Patty |
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Jun 10, 2007, 08:29 PM
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Patty,
Fayerody gave you some good info on electric fences. The fence itself will keep her in your yard. Shock collors are unfortunately often used to keep dogs from running deer and chasing rabbits. If she is shocked whenever she touches any part of the fence she'll stay inside the yard. I have yet to see it fail. I know it hurts and I know you're upset. You have a kind heart. Hugs, Jan
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Jun 10, 2007, 08:34 PM
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I don't think I can install the electric fence here in town...small children next door who play around my fence.
Just depressed right now, disgusted and may find a solution tomorrow. Patty |
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#8
Jun 10, 2007, 09:27 PM
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So sorry about all this seeker....is there a way you can put her in obediance school to learn to listen and stay put? Maybe have a trainer come out to your home for a couple of sessions and teach Kelley the benefits of staying in the yard??
Hugsssss J |
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Jun 10, 2007, 09:29 PM
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Yeah...I need the Dog Whsperer, don't I!!!
She's unhappily chained outside right now, sulking. I'm thinking the running line may be the only solution if I'm going to keep her. |
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#10
Jun 10, 2007, 09:40 PM
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Hey Patty
Just catching up with the situation.... Is there a reason that she wants to escape all the time. I.e. has she found a mate? Is she on heat....... Or is she just behaving badly......if it is the later she needs some hard discipline and I know this sound hard but you will have take away her freedom for awhile...then after a time take her on a walk with a lead and let her know what is appropriate behavior. This may need to practised over and over again until she can understand........It sounds as if she is going through the teenage years  Hope it works out for you XXXX SpringStar |
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#11
Jun 10, 2007, 09:51 PM
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Well, she's getting the "hard" discipline right now....on the chain. She's spayed, not in heat. I have another 12 ft. lenghth of chain I can add tomorrow, but right now she needs the hard discipline...."toughER love!"
Patty |
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#12
Jun 10, 2007, 09:57 PM
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call your vet and describe her actions.......dogs are given prozac for acting out.......xoxoxo pat p.s. the electric fence comes with posts and wire holders. you pound them into the ground in your yard......not usually on top of it. somewhere in height where she's going to hit it when she walks up to the fence. even if you have to have her on a chain, do it.
i don't think there would be an ordinance against the wire, when it's in your yard. and tell your neighbors to keep their kids back until you get her corrected. xoxoxo pat |
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Jun 11, 2007, 12:50 AM
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The chain is better than having her break the fence and get out, or putting her down. Maybe a dog trainer can help too. I was going to try to find another home for one of my dogs because we can't afford the tickets from our dog defending our kids against the neighbor dog. But I need to do everything I can. We're going to finish the fence (chain link), and we keep him crated when we are not home, and we will go to obedience classes. I understand the situation you are in, and I keep thinking the problem is bigger than I can deal with too, but our dogs are members of the family and I don't want to give up. Besides, think about how you will feel after you solve the problem and overcome this challenge! We need more successes, so keep trying until you can call this a success. That's what I'm going to do anyway. All my life I never really tried because someone always said I would fail. It's time to stop failing.
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Jun 11, 2007, 10:16 AM
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Best wishes, Patty. Lots of good ideas, here. I once placed a dog that was chewing the doorframes during thunderstorms in a home in a different part of the country. She was a runner and escape artist, too, and they didn't watch her like I did. So within months she had died under the wheels of a car. I would have preferred to have had her humanely euthanized in my arms than that fate. When your dog is out running, her fate can be crueler than humane euthanasia.
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Jun 11, 2007, 11:29 AM
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Hi seeker
I know how you feel....I have chased down many a dog on many a day. Could you perhaps try to find her a home somewhere that she could run...and not be tied. Perhaps I am grasping at straws...but a farm or something. I just hate to think of her being put to sleep because she runs sometimes. I can tell you love her.... Annie |
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Jun 11, 2007, 05:14 PM
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Hi, all,
I am touched by your compassionate concern for my dog Kelley. I kept her on a long chain this morning while I was in class, and she and the other dog came in and had a long nap inside this afternoon. They wanted back outside, so I added another length of chain so che has a large area of the yard to move around in. You've all given me good suggestions, and I'm still considering the best solution. I was really upset last evening, but feeling better today with her. Love, Patty |
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Jun 11, 2007, 05:26 PM
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i crate Fayeroe when i'm at work. really large crate. she can stand up and move around and have a water dish inside it........
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Jun 13, 2007, 05:25 PM
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I once had a beagle that could jump 8 feet so he was able to get out of just about any fencing I put up finally what we ended up doing was putting up a kennel. A kennel is like a cage but huge. they come in various sizes. the one I got for Springer was nine feet high, 10 feet long and 10 feet wide. I placed it right next to the porch so that any time he went out he went directly int to kennel to pla do his business ect.. Having a kennel helped so much in the sanitary part of things too because I didnt have to walk around every day carrying a shovel and bag searching for dog pies. it never failed you forget one and someone steps in it and its on the bottom of the shoes and into the house.. YUCK.. with having the kennel cleanup was a snap.
You can get kennels at any pet supply stores. |
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