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Old Feb 09, 2005, 04:50 PM
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No serious researcher would do something like that. It's unethical, unprofessional, and wrong (as anyone involved in research would tell you).

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Old Feb 09, 2005, 04:54 PM
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Reporters don't typically consider themselves to be 'serious researchers' and they have ethical standards all of their own...

They are told to be persistent
Because persistence pays off
Like persistant salesmen
At least he had the courtesy to be upfront about his intentions
Rather than pretending just so he could stay.

You have to be a bit careful with reporters...
Piss them off and who knows what they might say...
Ignore them and eventually they will get bored and go away...
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Old Feb 09, 2005, 05:51 PM
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Exactly, alexandra. I was in that chat, and didn't get involved because DocJohn was there, so I let him handle it. He did ask the journalist to pm or email him to talk about it, and I think we all thought that the journalist would leave after that. In fact, the journalist did leave (or get booted) at one point, and many of us were relieved, but he came back in again. Eventually DocJohn did ask him to go. I thought the guy was pretty pesky, and was irritated too, and wished that he would have left earlier, but I also understand the need to be polite to people and not use a bigger hammer than necessary. Know what I mean?

But it was troublesome, not only that the journalist was there to collect data on us, and people were uncomfortable about that, but also that that guy took up so much of our support chat time with his business, and was so slow to take a hint.

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Old Feb 09, 2005, 06:06 PM
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Oh right ... so they don't want to get a correct and factural story?

Wish there was an eyeroll icon here ...

Even reporters generally have some ethics in terms of whether they are upsetting people ... and he clearly wasn't getting the info he needed, no one gave him anyything remotely of value to his topic ...

i can't be bothered arguing alexandra_k, i think this was pretty much finished YESTERDAY?

thanks kimmy I'm disappointed ... it's sweet, i'm sure he will work it out.
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Old Feb 09, 2005, 06:56 PM
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Well, that was a part of the story... The whole story is...

Once I found out johnm was a journalist (not researcher), I asked him to leave and he did. He was looking to chat with me specifically and wasn't aware that wasn't the appropriate forum to do so. Once he was made aware of that, he left the chat room.

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Old Feb 09, 2005, 08:07 PM
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((((((((((((((( docjohn )))))))))))))))))

thank you...for everything...all of the time.

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Old Feb 09, 2005, 08:42 PM
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I just felt it took up quite a bit of valuable chat time, and he was straight up about his intentions pretty early on - I am pretty sure I suggested he post something in another forum, but he wasn't replying.

I'm sorry, I think "the whole story" was given in the above posts already? Someone did document that you removed him from the chatroom some time into the conversation I'm disappointed ...

It wasn't appropriate for him to remain as long as he did IMO ... what you must surely realise is that some people also use these websites from a voyeuristic perspective, and whether he was a journalist or merely wanting a snoop at people with mental disorders, he probably isn't the sort you want sitting in a chatroom ...

It is more of a big deal as it's your weekly hour in chat, and people often give away quite a bit of information in that time.
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Old Feb 10, 2005, 11:47 AM
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Doc John,
Thanks for the clarification.

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Old Feb 16, 2005, 11:55 PM
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He may have been pretending to be someone he was not but I wasn't there....Perhaps he wanted help and didn't know how to ask for it. Just a thought - once again I wasn't there.
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Old Feb 17, 2005, 12:02 AM
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I have been reading your posts with some question marks. This post does not seem to be the language of a psychologist or the attitude. I was not there but this response seems to be a little over the top in terms of what Alex has said. Interesting.
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Old Feb 17, 2005, 12:05 AM
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DSF---I think a lot of you for standing up and taking charge of what you believe in. I'm glad you've decided to stay. And yes, I do think the issue was resolved in previous posts, but you still haven't gotten the security you need and deserve. Thanks for standing up and saying so. You're one kick butt chic.

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