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She has been a huge support this week when things were very rough for me, I am glad I have her. I am glad I have an ethical T who is helping me get past the trauma of having an unethical one. Plus the trauma of child abuse, she is the one to help me. She accepts me for who I am and never gives up. She appreciates "my voice of change" because I am bring good change everywhere I go to help those who have suffered like myself. I guess it is hard for those who have never been there to understand me.
Don't give up when things are hard in therapy, things do get better! I also wanted to thank all of those who have truly supported me through the years here,(you know who you are) you helped me through the tough times when my T couldn't be there. I really appreciate all of you and it was a blast getting to know you all. Thanks for the laughs, tears and support. I couldn't have done this without your help. ![]() |
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exotic, I'm so glad your T has really been there for you this week. You deserve that and I'm so glad you have gotten that support from her that you need!
Your post sounds kind of like a goodbye, I hope that's not the case. ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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EF I'm so glad things are going so well. But I get the same feeling as zoo... you're not saying goodbye, right? (((EF)))
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Thanks. We are not allowed to have goodbye posts here. YOu two have been awesome, I just want you to know that.
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ok, as much as I love PC for the support and info I get here, I find it bizarre and unlike any other internet forum I have ever been part of in the way that we are not allowed to discuss or even approach the meta.
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I know, I know. Please don't let it get you down though. ![]() |
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I canceled my T appointments next week, I am tired of everything and all the work. I just need some peace.
I wrote this a couple days ago on how I am feeling. Exoticflower had been pulled out by the roots and left to wither away, like an unwanted weed. Just crumble her up and let her fly in the wind like confetti floating around during a parade. It was neat to see but will soon be forgotten. The weed killers can now rejoice in their perfect lawns as the weeds are all gone. But the dead worm's tunnels below will cause their foundations to crumble away like an earthquake because their house was built on fear I just want the pain to stop and stop people being so mean to me. I am a person after all, not just an avatar here. I hope people can remember that. All I wanted was some support for the horrible things that has happened to me, but my issues are not welcomed here. Just butterflies and hearts are allowed. So I will deal with my issues alone. It is interesting on how my history keeps repeating itself. The truth is NOBODY gives a **** and would prefer that I just shut up. I guess it makes things easier for everyone. Hide abuse so it keeps happening over and over to more and more people. Well I tried but I am just too tired to keep trying. |
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I would never hurt myself, beside I have plenty of those who like to do to me already.
All I am saying is that don't anyone get caught up with feeling safe here, it is NOT safe. It is just like real life. (whatever that might mean to you) I really can't elaborate more about it here. All I know is that I don't feel very welcomed here, I got that message LOUD AND CLEAR. Take care, Tay. |
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EF: You are not accepting PMs, so I am posting this here, although I wanted to PM it to you.
I read your post about not feeling welcomed here, and I'm sad that you feel like that ![]() I think you also know that my therapist/minister in high school sexually abused me (as in had intercourse with me) and it affected my healing for years and years and years and was very hard to recover from, so I know first hand how damaging therapist abuse can be. I've apologized publicly a few times, but I wanted to PM you to be SURE that you understand my point of view. I'm not sorry that I asked the question about the placement of the post, because my question wasn't intended even the TINIEST bit to say anything to or about you. I AM sorry that it felt personal to you. I hope you can come to know soon that you ARE welcome here. ![]() ![]() ![]() Last edited by Anonymous29412; Mar 12, 2010 at 02:50 PM. |
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Zooropa - if you don't mind me asking, what do you mean by 'the meta'?
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((((((((((exotic))))))))))
i'm sorry you're having such a hard time lately. it sounds like you got really triggered by the responses to that one thread you posted and not getting the pm as to why it was deleted. i have to admit i did find even just reading the title a bit triggering. exotic, i really don't think anyone is trying to silence your voice. we care about you very much and you are bringing up an important issue. ![]() take a break if you need to but not the other thing we're not supposed to discuss here. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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EF,
I mostly lurk on this board and I normally steer clear of 'charged' threads like this one but after several of these kinds of threads I feel a need to say something. I see you are in a lot of pain and this is a recurring theme - you write very positive threads, then something happens and someone hurts you (either here or in the real world) and you feel like a helpless victim, then you stand up and defend yourself (filing a complaint, speaking with your therapist etc.), then you seem to have some relief/peace, and then the cycle starts up all over again. This time you feel hurt because your threads were deleted. You assume the status of a victim and have the fantasy that people here want you to 'shut up' etc. The problem is, this is completely untrue. Yes, people were triggered by what was rightly a very triggering post with a disturbing title. People have a right to come to the forums here and not be triggered. That's the whole purpose of the trigger symbol - to make this a safe place for everyone. People have the right to notify the moderator if posts are upsetting them - and without having to feel a guilty conscience. How do you think people like Tree feel to read these kinds of words from you - don't you think you are making people feel responsible for something that really has little to do with this forum? It seems like you are bringing up hurts from your past and projecting them onto a situation that really shouldn't be so emotionally loaded. I personally find that behaviour quite manipulative - I'd even go as far to say emotionally abusive or emotionally blackmailing to let others feel so responsible for your moods for simply taking actions that were completely within their rights. Don't you see that the message you are sending is: "I can post what I want, and if anyone dares interfere I'll act out - I'll cancel my therapy, I'll leave, I'll wither away." - I'm not saying "don't stand up for yourself" - everyone should feel empowered to protect themselves - but don't load your emotional baggage onto other vulnerable people and let them feel responsible when they don't deserve to. You see a pattern of people hurting you and of your being the helpless victim. I think you are probably reliving something from your past and projecting it onto current situations and hence mis-reading peoples' intentions and getting very upset and hurt. Yes, there are some horrid, bad people in this world, but there are just as many (well, quite probably a lot more) very kind, loving individuals. If you keep only seeing enemies, your life will be so hard and painful and unnecessarily so. Try to take a deep breath in these situations, stand back, express how you feel in a matter of fact way without immediately accusing or judging. Sit with it and talk to your T about it. If you take these steps, life will feel so much better/safer. People love you here and want to support you. So does your T, by the sounds of it - don't walk away from your sources of support - why punish yourself like that? If you've canceled your appointments with T next week, there's still time to reschedule. It sounds like you need her support right now. Have you ever considered combining therapy with some DBT grouptherapy? It might help with reality testing and getting direct feedback from others when you feel accused or threatened - its hard when you only have your own immediate defense mechanisms (which I'm sure have been developed to the extent that they are because you've been through a hell of a lot). I'm writing this because I respect you and think you deserve an honest and frank response. Please don't judge this negatively - my intentions are good. A lot of people battle with these same problems - if you grow up with volatile parents (for example), you're used to being hypervigilent - ready to flee for cover - that's a natural response. Holding onto that defense-mechanism is maladaptive in the big world where most people mean no harm. Onzi Quote:
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This is one of the reasons it is not necessarily safe to post our issues in therapy on here, because people will assume they know everything about you and say the stuff you are telling me right now. Plus this time especially, you don't know the whole story, stuff that was not on the boards in plain site. If anything I think the one who projected the most crap onto anyone is probably YOU. But that doesn't bother me because I can't control how you or others will perceive me and I don't know your personal issues that effect your personal thinking of me. If you respect me like you say, than you must also consider that your feelings of me may be tainted by your own issues because you are assuming A LOT about me in your above post and seem to have a need to tell me about it. But what is really scary for me is that you have a lot of assumption based on very little fact and based on not the whole story. Last edited by Anonymous273; Mar 13, 2010 at 01:59 PM. |
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Thanks Bloom,
I do think there needs a forum for those of us who have more triggering issues. But there isn't so that is why I can't really get the support I need here anymore. Because if I triggered so many people by that one post, than my other stuff would certainly be too triggering to post and will get deleted. So what would the point be in me being here? I am very disappointed in that. That is why my issues will be dealt with just myself and my T. She is trained to deal with what I tell her and I don't have sensor what I say no matter how bad it is. As far as that one post, it seems to me that the title could have been altered or changed as an alternative. So I can still get support for my needs and the title won't trigger anyone and with a trigger warning people can avoid it if they need to. But instead I got no support because my needs disappeared into thin air. That feels very rejecting and I am feeling hurt but yet I am not suppose to talk about it so I feel silenced too. I fee like there is no where for me to go anymore without upsetting so many people. It sucks. |
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Tree,
This post has nothing to do with you so I am confused as to why you are apologizing. I am not upset with you. |
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Hi Exotic Flower,
![]() I'm glad to see you are still sticking around for a while. I really hope this can get worked out. ![]() You said: Quote:
I don't understand this, because the post that started all of this wasn't even about your issues but about something you read in the newspaper. I remember seeing threads started by you in which you talked about specific things that happened with your old T .....it seemed like you were able to find people who could relate and support you. I guess what I am trying to say is that maybe there could be some middle ground. if, as you say, this place felt like a home to you - then wouldn't you want to help take care of others by not posting threads with triggering titles? Wouldn't it be ok to title a thread 'Extreme abuse by a therapist' or something that doesn't get into specific details? That way it helps people who are trying to use self-care. Now that I know what some of your specific triggers are (which you mentioned in your post) - I would never post a thread with that in the title. From my perspective, your views and issues have been respected and appreciated here. In fact - some of your posts and ideas were put in a sticky in the sub-forum here!!! That is pretty significant, if you ask me, and shows a lot of support for what you've been through and how you are trying to make a difference going forward. ![]() |
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Thanks Darkrunner, I know you are only trying to help. I wish I could talk freely but I can't, so that in itself makes this whole thing even more confusing for everyone. I truly feel my issues are not welcomed here because they are too triggering for people, even with trigger warnings. |
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Something I do appreciate about PC is that although so many of us have been through some really horrific experiences, we are almost always able to find ways to ask for support and to provide support in a gentle and respectful way. To me, it doesn't feel like being censored...it feels like being respectful of a community of really diverse people who each are bringing their own experiences with them when they come to read. Can we be perfect about not triggering people? Of course not. Movie theaters are really triggering to me, but I wouldn't expect anyone to know that. I'm sure EVERYTHING might be a trigger to someone. But some triggers are more obvious than others, and it feels right to be careful about that when we can. So....it seems like what you were looking for was support around the story in the article. I wonder if there is a way we can talk about what kind of support you need without even including the article? I guess, as an example, I might need support because I hear people in the hall outside of T's office sometimes and that reminds me of things that would lead up to CSA incidents for me as a child. I could bring that to PC and talk about how scary it is for me and what it feels like and people could give me suggestions about how to work through it, or just let me know that they heard me...and we could talk about all of that without me posting a really detailed news story about a child (who isn't me) being abused. I don't know if that makes any sense, but that's my .02! ![]() ![]() ![]() ETA: It seems like we were posting at the same time, so you may have answered some of this in your thread to darkrunner.... |
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I guess an internet forum can only help so much. Ones therapist is where the real help is. We've all had posts removed and not all of us hold the forum to ransom afterwards.
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[quote=treehouse;1317324]But EF....the thread in question was a news story, right? It was not about something that happened to you. Have any posts where you have told your story been deleted?
I have explained why this link was related to my issue in the original thread and in my above post. It was very relevant Something I do appreciate about PC is that although so many of us have been through some really horrific experiences, we are almost always able to find ways to ask for support and to provide support in a gentle and respectful way. I wasn't trying to be disrespectful or ungentle or trying to trigger anyone. I honestly didn't see what was wrong with my title when I posted it, I do now. To me, it doesn't feel like being censored...it feels like being respectful of a community of really diverse people who each are bringing their own experiences with them when they come to read. Can we be perfect about not triggering people? Of course not. Movie theaters are really triggering to me, but I wouldn't expect anyone to know that. I'm sure EVERYTHING might be a trigger to someone. But some triggers are more obvious than others, and it feels right to be careful about that when we can. I have posted hundreds of times, and I feel I am careful. What I find is sad is that because of this one time people are assuming I am trying to hurt others or be insensitive. If someone would have just told me that it was the title that had everyone upset, than I would have changed it to something else. ( I am not a mean person) As far as the link, well I put a trigger on it so those who are triggered wouldn't click on it. But those who aren't triggered by the story could still talk about this with me as it would help me decide what to do with my T. To me I thought I was being respectful. For those who still clicked on the link when being triggered by the title, well I can't be responsible for that, I did put a warning. |
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So now I am holding the forum for ransom???? How can I not take that negative, some one please let me know? If that is truly what people think of me, than it is best I am not here. right? It is sad that I am being judged just on one or two threads and not as a whole over the last 3 years and thousands of posts. ![]() I guess this thread should be locked down too, this is not very productive at all, in fact I will notify them. I don't want to be a part of this. I never tried to hurt ANYONE, but I won't let others put me on the whipping post either. I will not be responding any more about this on the forum. Those who want to beat me, that's fine as I have learned not to feel it. Thank you. it will all be over soon enough. This post to me is an example of why I don't feel wanted here.... Last edited by Anonymous273; Mar 13, 2010 at 04:21 PM. |
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its u thats been doing the judging. I think people here have rwached out to you. You seem blind to anyone else but yourself. Thats not how a community works.
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As the OP has suggested this thread be locked, I will do so.
Just a couple of gentle thoughts before I lock it. There is absolutely no doubt that many members have been through some very difficult and triggering times in their lives. PC is a wonderful place to get support and ideas from. We cannot possibly be everything to everybody. Nor should PC be used as a place where we talk about every little detail of our issues. There are many things that are much better dealt with in therapy than discussed in detail here. One doesn't need to know every detail in order to provide support to another. Please remember in moving forward that the public discussion of any admin actions is against guidelines. And I would like you all to know as well, we (the team) do not go "looking" to see what we should close or remove from the forums. This is never done without discussion and concern for the OP and subsequent members replying. We are always willing to discuss privately, any actions taken, so please don't hesitate to pm us. exoticflower, I understand the dilemma you are having with deciding whether or not to bring charges against your ex T. It must be very anxiety filled and heart wrenching to have to consider what is best for you. I'm sorry that you are in a position to even have to consider something like this. I'm not so sure that comparing with other situations will give you a definitive answer. Listen to your gut instinct.....it won't steer you wrong! Be well all...... ![]() sabby |
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