Home Menu

Menu


Reply
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old Dec 18, 2013, 05:20 PM
purplemystery's Avatar
purplemystery purplemystery is offline
Veteran Member
 
Member Since: Mar 2010
Posts: 729
Today I brought a typed letter to my session, as it helps me open up more. My T tried to convince me to leave it with her, which is the third time she has asked and I have turned it down. When I expressed worry, she said "I just don't think we had time to get to everything today" (it was a long letter). I explained the letter wasn't written with the intent for her to see- it was vague and wasn't what I would consider coherent enough for her eyes because they're more like notes. I feel like I'd want to edit/perfect my letter before giving it to her.

Anyway, I feel bad that I've refused her three times now. Should I edit my letter and e-mail it to her as an attachment?
Here are my particular circumstances:
-She has strong boundaries.
-She e-mailed me for the first time last week to send me a research article, and didn't put anything else in the e-mail except for the link.
-My T and I have never really talked about e-mailing. She mentioned once months ago that perhaps we could start, but we didn't talk about the "rules" about that, and what that would mean.
-I won't see my T for a month, so if it crosses her boundaries, I can't rectify it for a long time.

Do you think I should, or does it sound like I'd better wait until I'm clear on what her boundaries are in terms of e-mailing? Has anyone ever e-mailed and had it backfire?

advertisement
  #2  
Old Dec 18, 2013, 05:25 PM
Yogix's Avatar
Yogix Yogix is offline
Member
 
Member Since: Oct 2013
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 424
I think you should. You never know, it may make her so happy to know that you trust her enough to let her read it. Could be a milestone for you.

I would go ahead and do it. Can't hurt :-)

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Thanks for this!
purplemystery, tealBumblebee
  #3  
Old Dec 18, 2013, 05:29 PM
Daeva Daeva is offline
Poohbah
 
Member Since: Oct 2013
Location: Underworld
Posts: 1,343
I think you should as well!
Thanks for this!
purplemystery
  #4  
Old Dec 18, 2013, 05:35 PM
purplemystery's Avatar
purplemystery purplemystery is offline
Veteran Member
 
Member Since: Mar 2010
Posts: 729
Thanks guys! Yeah, I was worried that she thought it shows that I don't trust her. I guess my trust issues were getting in the way, but less about the information that I'd be telling her and more about needing to word it "just right."
  #5  
Old Dec 18, 2013, 05:55 PM
gayleggg's Avatar
gayleggg gayleggg is offline
Legendary Wise Elder
Community Liaison
 
Member Since: Apr 2013
Location: Texas
Posts: 26,619
I think next time you should also leave the unedited version. Even if it's not perfect it might be more honest than an edited version. I would email her, but don't edit too much. Let her see your raw feelings.
__________________
Bipolar I, Depression, GAD Meds: Zoloft, Zyprexa, Ritalin

"Each morning we are born again. What we do today is what matters most." -Buddha
Thanks for this!
purplemystery, tealBumblebee
  #6  
Old Dec 18, 2013, 05:56 PM
someone321's Avatar
someone321 someone321 is offline
Poohbah
 
Member Since: Dec 2013
Location: Europe
Posts: 1,142
I would send as well, it might help a lot but I don't see how it ciuld make things worse... She could be happy that you trust her so much. I guess, in the worst case, she won't read it till the end of this year but in the best case, it may change a lot so why not to try?
Thanks for this!
purplemystery
  #7  
Old Dec 18, 2013, 06:11 PM
purplemystery's Avatar
purplemystery purplemystery is offline
Veteran Member
 
Member Since: Mar 2010
Posts: 729
Okay, thanks for your opinions! I guess I will! It's not like this e-mail will be out of the blue- she did ask for the letter, and technically she brought up e-mail months ago. And okay, I'll try to be as open as possible. It kind of stinks that I won't get her reaction to what I say until January, but at least I'll know I opened up as much as I could. And who knows? Maybe she'll surprise me with a response. But I won't be expecting that.
  #8  
Old Dec 18, 2013, 06:24 PM
wotchermuggle's Avatar
wotchermuggle wotchermuggle is offline
Grand Poohbah
 
Member Since: Jul 2012
Posts: 1,612
I guess I'm in the minority, but if it were me, I'd want to discuss boundaries and rules before sending that first email.
Thanks for this!
Karrebear, purplejell, purplemystery
  #9  
Old Dec 18, 2013, 06:29 PM
ShrinkPatient's Avatar
ShrinkPatient ShrinkPatient is offline
Member
 
Member Since: Aug 2013
Location: USA
Posts: 377
I think you should email it.
Maybe I feel that way because I've only ever given my T one thing I've written down. I always email!!
__________________
***********************************************************

I wish I was a better elephant.
Thanks for this!
purplemystery
  #10  
Old Dec 18, 2013, 06:35 PM
reesecups reesecups is offline
Grand Member
 
Member Since: Mar 2013
Location: California
Posts: 763
I think emailing it to her is a great idea! If it is a boundary, I'm sure she'll tell you.
Thanks for this!
purplemystery
  #11  
Old Dec 18, 2013, 06:54 PM
Asiablue's Avatar
Asiablue Asiablue is offline
Grand Magnate
 
Member Since: Apr 2011
Location: in her own dark fairytale
Posts: 3,086
I think you should send the unedited version but i think you should wait until a few days before you're due to see her, because what if you don't get a reply because her boundary is no work during vacation time? Will you see it as a rejection? Will you spend the entire holidays worried sick about her reaction or if she's read it etc, don't put yourself thru that.
__________________
INFP Introvert(67%) iNtuitive(50%) iNtuitive Feeling(75%) Perceiving(44)%
Thanks for this!
purplemystery, SoupDragon
  #12  
Old Dec 18, 2013, 06:58 PM
Yogix's Avatar
Yogix Yogix is offline
Member
 
Member Since: Oct 2013
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 424
Quote:
Originally Posted by Asiablu e View Post
I think you should send the unedited version but i think you should wait until a few days before you're due to see her, because what if you don't get a reply because her boundary is no work during vacation time? Will you see it as a rejection? Will you spend the entire holidays worried sick about her reaction or if she's read it etc, don't put yourself thru that.

Maybe you could email and at the end just say "could you just let me know you received it? This is anxiety provoking for me, and would just like to know you've received it at least."


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Thanks for this!
purplemystery
  #13  
Old Dec 18, 2013, 07:06 PM
ShrinkPatient's Avatar
ShrinkPatient ShrinkPatient is offline
Member
 
Member Since: Aug 2013
Location: USA
Posts: 377
Quote:
Originally Posted by Asiablue View Post
I think you should send the unedited version but i think you should wait until a few days before you're due to see her, because what if you don't get a reply because her boundary is no work during vacation time? Will you see it as a rejection? Will you spend the entire holidays worried sick about her reaction or if she's read it etc, don't put yourself thru that.

I agree with Asia about waiting a bit. I have sent things to my T during vacation and she does return my emails but she forgot to pack a charger and had to get hold of one. I DID panic a bit and was worried sick feeling like I was rejected.
Please wait!!
__________________
***********************************************************

I wish I was a better elephant.
Hugs from:
purplemystery
Thanks for this!
SoupDragon
  #14  
Old Dec 18, 2013, 07:20 PM
SoupDragon's Avatar
SoupDragon SoupDragon is offline
Elder
 
Member Since: Oct 2010
Location: in a cave
Posts: 6,977
Yes l agree with Asiablue too. I used to email my T a lot, but would get so anxious if l didn't receive an immediate reply.
__________________
Soup
Thanks for this!
purplemystery
  #15  
Old Dec 18, 2013, 08:56 PM
purplemystery's Avatar
purplemystery purplemystery is offline
Veteran Member
 
Member Since: Mar 2010
Posts: 729
Quote:
Originally Posted by wotchermuggle View Post
I guess I'm in the minority, but if it were me, I'd want to discuss boundaries and rules before sending that first email.
Hmm, yeah I never actually got permission to e-mail her. She is from a college counseling center, so I feel like there are different rules. I *think* it would be fine, but it's not certain. And like I said, she is strict on boundaries, and has told me that herself. She e-mailed me once, and asked my permission in session before she did that. So is it a reciprocal courtesy thing for me to ask her permission first?
  #16  
Old Dec 18, 2013, 09:05 PM
purplemystery's Avatar
purplemystery purplemystery is offline
Veteran Member
 
Member Since: Mar 2010
Posts: 729
Thanks for weighing in, everyone! I appreciate all of your ideas and I think it's a good suggestion to wait. But in my particular circumstance, if I were to wait it would have to be a whole month, and at that point I would feel no need to e-mail her since I'd be seeing her soon anyway. I could just give the letter to her in person. But I would feel like the "moment" had passed, whether that's valid or not. Do your views on the situation change since she has one more work day left tomorrow? She isn't technically on vacation yet. But yeah, I don't want to be panicking about this for so long...

I suppose I could call to ask if I could e-mail her, haha. But that would be a boundary thing too...
  #17  
Old Dec 18, 2013, 10:57 PM
purplemystery's Avatar
purplemystery purplemystery is offline
Veteran Member
 
Member Since: Mar 2010
Posts: 729
I feel kind of guilty for not letting her keep the letter. She deserves to be trusted, and she is going out of her way to show she cares by asking to keep it. And I just rejected it. She has gotten frustrated with me before over my inability to open up. I'm worried she will see this negatively for our relationship. :/
  #18  
Old Dec 18, 2013, 11:36 PM
wotchermuggle's Avatar
wotchermuggle wotchermuggle is offline
Grand Poohbah
 
Member Since: Jul 2012
Posts: 1,612
Could you call and leave a message on her machine? Or, even if you call tomorrow, you could ask if you could drop the letter off or email it to her as you've had a change of heart and would like to share it with her before you lose your nerve....?
  #19  
Old Dec 19, 2013, 04:08 AM
someone321's Avatar
someone321 someone321 is offline
Poohbah
 
Member Since: Dec 2013
Location: Europe
Posts: 1,142
I don't know, I think I would not manage to wait the whole month because as you said, in a month you could feel totally different and have no need to show her the letter anymore... I think, I would send it now but with the assumption that now she is on holidays and she won't read it, and that maybe she does not like the idea of sending her e-mails but then I guess she will tell "me" when we see each other in January... I always assume the worst case scenario so then I can be nicely surprised

But you know the best how you will feel, if she does not reply to your e-mail... Can you handle it? Would you feel better if you don't send anything or if you send but won't get any response till January?
  #20  
Old Dec 19, 2013, 10:19 PM
DelusionsDaily's Avatar
DelusionsDaily DelusionsDaily is offline
Conflicted...
 
Member Since: Jul 2010
Location: The darkness
Posts: 3,356
Since you have decided to wait or so it kinda sounded to me. Take the unedited letter in when you see her in a month and ask if she still wants it. If she does still then you know the opportunity hasn't passed, if she doesn't well...you tried.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  #21  
Old Dec 19, 2013, 10:56 PM
Karrebear's Avatar
Karrebear Karrebear is offline
Member
 
Member Since: Sep 2013
Location: USA
Posts: 184
Maybe Im playing devils advocate here but I would wait on the email. I wonder why she keeps asking for you to leave it with her in the first place. Does she say why? I don't think there is anything wrong with taking it to and from the appt.

If you are going to give it to her I would give the original copy
  #22  
Old Dec 20, 2013, 04:49 PM
Hope-Full's Avatar
Hope-Full Hope-Full is offline
Veteran Member
 
Member Since: Jun 2011
Location: USA
Posts: 673
What if......

What if you emailed her the letter - unedited - and at the end said, as someone else suggested: "I am sorry if I am crossing any boundaries with this email, I didn't want to wait for a month for you to have the letter. I would like to discuss email boundaries when we meet. If you could please let me know you got this, a simple 'got it' will work, I'd appreciate it, and will look forward to seeing you in a month."

That way your T doesn't knows you don't expect to engage her in conversation via email, and you are acknowledging any potential boundary violation, and setting up for a boundary discussion upon your return.
__________________
Knowledge is power. Power corrupts. Study hard. Be evil.
Go ahead. Read my blog. Really. It's pretty good.
  #23  
Old Dec 20, 2013, 06:35 PM
archipelago's Avatar
archipelago archipelago is offline
Grand Poohbah
 
Member Since: Jan 2013
Posts: 1,773
My shrink accepts emails and does read them but doesn't do emails himself. So I tend to not use email as a means of communication very often. It is not necessarily a boundary thing. I think it is the amount of time he has. With so many patients if he had to respond to everyone he would be working double time nearly.

That is just my situation. But I mention it because there is a slight chance that even if your therapist accepts emails she might not respond in email form and wait till she sees you instead. Just so you are prepared in case you don't get a response right away. That to me would be frustrating.
__________________
“Our knowledge is a little island in a great ocean of nonknowledge.” – Isaac Bashevis Singer
  #24  
Old Dec 20, 2013, 07:11 PM
purplemystery's Avatar
purplemystery purplemystery is offline
Veteran Member
 
Member Since: Mar 2010
Posts: 729
I am so grateful for everyone here at PC for helping me through moments like this! I appreciated all of your comments and suggestions. I went back and forth many times over what I should do. In the end, I left her a voicemail asking if I could e-mail her; after thinking about it for awhile I got very worried that she would be frustrated over my lack of trust for her. I have frustrated her at least once in the past and I have only a few months left with her, so I felt guilty and regretful for not just taking a chance. But at the same time, I didn't want to e-mail without asking her permission. So I left the voicemail, and she e-mailed me in response very quickly, and said "You're welcome to email me, if you'd find it helpful. See you in a few weeks. Have a safe and peaceful break." I guess it went well, though I'm a tiny bit embarrassed for making such a production out of it. Now I feel like I could have waited. Oh well, I'm sure we'll have a conversation about all of this when I get back. It was strange to e-mail her for the first time. It was like I saw a test of what our relationship really is. Anyway, at least I don't have to feel guilty over the break.
  #25  
Old Dec 20, 2013, 07:16 PM
purplemystery's Avatar
purplemystery purplemystery is offline
Veteran Member
 
Member Since: Mar 2010
Posts: 729
Quote:
Originally Posted by Karrebear View Post
Maybe Im playing devils advocate here but I would wait on the email. I wonder why she keeps asking for you to leave it with her in the first place. Does she say why? I don't think there is anything wrong with taking it to and from the appt.

If you are going to give it to her I would give the original copy
She doesn't say why. She asked "would you like to leave the letter here with me?" once. I told her there were things I hadn't gotten to yet, so I should wait. My guess is that she knows from experience that I say more in my letters than I do out loud. I try to find the perfect way to phrase things all the time in therapy. Sometimes this makes me speak with a lot of pauses. So perhaps she wanted to see my unedited thoughts. At the same time, sometimes I would still rather have the experience of getting it out verbally than having her read it, depending on what I wrote.

Why did you ask? Did you find it strange that she wanted it?
Reply
Views: 1856

attentionThis is an old thread. You probably should not post your reply to it, as the original poster is unlikely to see it.




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:19 AM.
Powered by vBulletin® — Copyright © 2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.




 

My Support Forums

My Support Forums is the online community that was originally begun as the Psych Central Forums in 2001. It now runs as an independent self-help support group community for mental health, personality, and psychological issues and is overseen by a group of dedicated, caring volunteers from around the world.

 

Helplines and Lifelines

The material on this site is for informational purposes only, and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis or treatment provided by a qualified health care provider.

Always consult your doctor or mental health professional before trying anything you read here.