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Old Jul 19, 2015, 12:56 PM
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Not to point out the obvious but have you tried simply thinking before you decide to do something someone tells you. I only say this because you seem to realize that calling someone a fag is bad so perhaps if someone told you to call someone else a fag wether that person was a mental health worker or not you could just try to stop and think if that sounded like a good thing to do and then choose not to call the person a fag. Also I am super confused about the dolls part what kind of dolls? And why would anyone ask you to send someone dolls?
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Old Jul 19, 2015, 01:21 PM
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This thread was turning into how to fight hate crime discussion rather than how to help op.

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The OP is getting advice/opinions. The OP chooses not to respond to any of the questions concerning her meds. Meds and Pdoc are the two most important things for her right now. I agree with the poster who said she can't see this clearly right now while she's in the middle of it. Joshuas Mommy, if you want to get better, please try to talk to your doctor, document all of these things you post here, and take your meds as prescribed. Unfortunately this illness can cause a person to lose everything, and you've already started experiencing that. Take your life back! But in order to do so, you need to give the meds a chance to work, or try something else. The meds can help you get your life back if you let them. It's nothing to be ashamed of. Pdoc and meds. You can do this!
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Old Jul 19, 2015, 01:28 PM
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I would require the health care workers to write down ALL instructions in the future.

This will allow at least two advantages for you:

1) you will have in writing what they say and mean

2) it will give you time --away from their influence-- to read it and decide what to do



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Old Jul 19, 2015, 01:49 PM
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The mental health workers told me to mail my son's dad dolls. They also told me to send him an email calling him a fag. Now he was upset about it and I don't have a good reason for doing it. What should I tell him?
I would tell him you will never use that word again, which is also something I would recommend to all the posters here who feel comfortable repeating it.
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Old Jul 19, 2015, 02:57 PM
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There are enough people that need emergency assistance and I wouldn't want to take away from them.

You won't take away from anybody by requesting help for yourself. That's what emergency or any medical service us for. To help you and everyone else

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Old Jul 19, 2015, 03:00 PM
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Not to point out the obvious but have you tried simply thinking before you decide to do something someone tells you. I only say this because you seem to realize that calling someone a fag is bad so perhaps if someone told you to call someone else a fag wether that person was a mental health worker or not you could just try to stop and think if that sounded like a good thing to do and then choose not to call the person a fag. Also I am super confused about the dolls part what kind of dolls? And why would anyone ask you to send someone dolls?

I actually know someone who sends broken dolls to relatives. One time dolls had no heads. It's a sad story

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Old Jul 19, 2015, 06:02 PM
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Not to point out the obvious but have you tried simply thinking before you decide to do something someone tells you. I only say this because you seem to realize that calling someone a fag is bad so perhaps if someone told you to call someone else a fag wether that person was a mental health worker or not you could just try to stop and think if that sounded like a good thing to do and then choose not to call the person a fag. Also I am super confused about the dolls part what kind of dolls? And why would anyone ask you to send someone dolls?
They told me to send him Monster High Dolls. They told me that if I mailed him these dolls and did this stuff then he would be less greedy.

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Abby Bominable - http://www.monsterhigh.com/en-us/cha...bbey-bominable

Robecca Steam - http://www.monsterhigh.com/en-us/cha.../robecca-steam
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Old Jul 19, 2015, 06:03 PM
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You won't take away from anybody by requesting help for yourself. That's what emergency or any medical service us for. To help you and everyone else

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Yeah, but some people are bleeding to death and need to wait on hold for 911. Someone might have an intruder in their home and need to wait to have someone to talk to.
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Old Jul 19, 2015, 06:33 PM
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Yeah, but some people are bleeding to death and need to wait on hold for 911. Someone might have an intruder in their home and need to wait to have someone to talk to.

No one has to wait for 911 if they are bleeding to death or have intruders. Every time I called 911 they arrived immidiately. Are you in the US?

Also if you don't want to call 911 just go see your doc

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Old Jul 19, 2015, 06:36 PM
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They told me to send him Monster High Dolls. They told me that if I mailed him these dolls and did this stuff then he would be less greedy.

Please click for the following doll info:

Abby Bominable - http://www.monsterhigh.com/en-us/cha...bbey-bominable

Robecca Steam - http://www.monsterhigh.com/en-us/cha.../robecca-steam

Why is he greedy and how dolls can help him to be less greedy? He is a guy, what's the use? Is he playing with dolls?

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Old Jul 19, 2015, 06:44 PM
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They told me to send him Monster High Dolls. They told me that if I mailed him these dolls and did this stuff then he would be less greedy.

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Abby Bominable - Abbey Bominable | Monster High Characters | Monster High

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Ok well i still dont really understand but i agree with what someone else saod to get their instructions in writing next time so things will be clear.
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Old Jul 19, 2015, 06:48 PM
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I would tell him you will never use that word again, which is also something I would recommend to all the posters here who feel comfortable repeating it.
I am assumimg you mean me. I did not use the word in a derogatory way. i only uesd it because i am aware that sometimes people dont understand what i mean so i was trying to be clear and didnt have the energy to beat around the bush but apperantly people still dont anyway i am not going to check this thread anymore no offence OP.
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Old Jul 19, 2015, 07:02 PM
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Why is he greedy and how dolls can help him to be less greedy? He is a guy, what's the use? Is he playing with dolls?

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No, he sold the dolls. He told me that his older son was dating a girl that looked like a monster high doll. Maybe, he thought that one of those dolls looked like me and one like his ex-wife.
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Old Jul 19, 2015, 07:16 PM
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No one has to wait for 911 if they are bleeding to death or have intruders. Every time I called 911 they arrived immidiately. Are you in the US?

Also if you don't want to call 911 just go see your doc

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I'm in the US and I have had to wait a very long time for 911 to come (I was the victim of a violent crime by a stranger). That said, I think the OP should definitely call 911 the next time she believes she is being told to do things by her mental health workers. If these are hallucinations, then she is at risk of being a danger to herself or others. If a mental health worker is actually telling her to do these things, then that person should be arrested. I strongly encourage the OP to take her medication or see her Pdoc to get this issue sorted out. I have a relative who is also schizophrenic and I know first-hand how dangerous these kinds of hallucinations can be. She also hates taking her medication, but when she is off it, we usually do end up having to call the police for immediate intervention. It is the illness (not the person) that does these things, and the police and doctors are there to help sort these things out.
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Old Jul 19, 2015, 07:20 PM
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I'm in the US and I have had to wait a very long time for 911 to come (I was the victim of a violent crime by a stranger). That said, I think the OP should definitely call 911 the next time she believes she is being told to do things by her mental health workers. If these are hallucinations, then she is at risk of being a danger to herself or others. If a mental health worker is actually telling her to do these things, then that person should be arrested. I strongly encourage the OP to take her medication or see her Pdoc to get this issue sorted out. I have a relative who is also schizophrenic and I know first-hand how dangerous these kinds of hallucinations can be. She also hates taking her medication, but when she is off it, we usually do end up having to call the police for immediate intervention. It is the illness (not the person) that does these things, and the police and doctors are there to help sort these things out.
They are not hallucinations and the mental health workers are telling me what to do. Also, there are people in large metropolitan areas that need to wait on hold a long time before someone picks up the 911 line. Someone telling me to mail my son's dad dolls is not an emergency.
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Old Jul 19, 2015, 07:33 PM
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I'm in the US and I have had to wait a very long time for 911 to come (I was the victim of a violent crime by a stranger). That said, I think the OP should definitely call 911 the next time she believes she is being told to do things by her mental health workers. If these are hallucinations, then she is at risk of being a danger to herself or others. If a mental health worker is actually telling her to do these things, then that person should be arrested. I strongly encourage the OP to take her medication or see her Pdoc to get this issue sorted out. I have a relative who is also schizophrenic and I know first-hand how dangerous these kinds of hallucinations can be. She also hates taking her medication, but when she is off it, we usually do end up having to call the police for immediate intervention. It is the illness (not the person) that does these things, and the police and doctors are there to help sort these things out.

Omg that's awful. I never had to wait for 911 at all . It was by my door while I was still on
The phone. Either it was fire or police or medical emergency. In the US. Unfortunately I had very different horrifying experiences living elsewhere. thats why I asked if it is US.

Well it's neither here nor there. But Seeing a doctor and take Meds is very important.

I work with individuals with disabilities including mental illnesses. I know what could happen when people refuse treatment and Meds. Hope op takes care of herself


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Old Jul 19, 2015, 07:39 PM
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No, he sold the dolls. He told me that his older son was dating a girl that looked like a monster high doll. Maybe, he thought that one of those dolls looked like me and one like his ex-wife.

So what was the purpose of mailing him dolls? If he wanted to see dolls he could look up himself or if he wanted to buy them he could it or you could send money!? Do you pay child support? This is nothing to do with your child though?

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Old Jul 19, 2015, 07:42 PM
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Ok well i still dont really understand but i agree with what someone else saod to get their instructions in writing next time so things will be clear.

How can grown man satisfy his greed by Getting dolls mailed to him? If he is greedy then money would be good enough, not dolls, confused

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No, because they might not like me using the forums on psychcentral.
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Old Jul 19, 2015, 07:48 PM
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So what was the purpose of mailing him dolls? If he wanted to see dolls he could look up himself or if he wanted to buy them he could it or you could send money!? Do you pay child support? This is nothing to do with your child though?

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The mental health workers said that he was greedy to be awaiting the death of his father. Also, he was mean to his ex-wife and physically abused her. This has nothing to do with my child. They told me that if I acted tough then he wouldn't sadistically abuse me anymore so I sent him an email and called him a fag and said I was tough.
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Old Jul 19, 2015, 08:29 PM
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No one has to wait for 911 if they are bleeding to death or have intruders. Every time I called 911 they arrived immidiately. Are you in the US?

Also if you don't want to call 911 just go see your doc

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The mental health workers said that he was greedy to be awaiting the death of his father. Also, he was mean to his ex-wife and physically abused her. This has nothing to do with my child. They told me that if I acted tough then he wouldn't sadistically abuse me anymore so I sent him an email and called him a fag and said I was tough.
The dolls still don't make any sense. What do they have to do with being tough? You are also no longer with this man, so it does not seem like him abusing you is an immediate threat. Regardless, you say you apologized to him for your actions and are happy that he is no longer mad at you. You also posted about how you think he is nice sometimes and isn't all bad. The logic here doesn't make sense, which suggests something more is going on.

On other threads, you have stated that you do not want to be on medication and you smoke pot because you believe it helps schizophrenia (despite evidence to the contrary). That suggests you are not on your meds and that you are also self-medicating with illegal drugs. While no one can say for certain, that strongly suggests that you are hallucinating and that is why you believe you are supposed to be doing these things. If you really want to know for sure, you could go to a new hospital or a new doctor (not affiliated with your current mental health workers) and get them to evaluate you AND determine what is going on with your previous care team. That would give you an independent opinion so that, either way, you get the help you need.
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The mental health workers said that he was greedy to be awaiting the death of his father. Also, he was mean to his ex-wife and physically abused her. This has nothing to do with my child. They told me that if I acted tough then he wouldn't sadistically abuse me anymore so I sent him an email and called him a fag and said I was tough.

Still don't understand about the dolls. He is he still abusing you? How?

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Old Jul 19, 2015, 08:40 PM
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The dolls still don't make any sense. What do they have to do with being tough? You are also no longer with this man, so it does not seem like him abusing you is an immediate threat. Regardless, you say you apologized to him for your actions and are happy that he is no longer mad at you. You also posted about how you think he is nice sometimes and isn't all bad. The logic here doesn't make sense, which suggests something more is going on.

On other threads, you have stated that you do not want to be on medication and you smoke pot because you believe it helps schizophrenia (despite evidence to the contrary). That suggests you are not on your meds and that you are also self-medicating with illegal drugs. While no one can say for certain, that strongly suggests that you are hallucinating and that is why you believe you are supposed to be doing these things. If you really want to know for sure, you could go to a new hospital or a new doctor (not affiliated with your current mental health workers) and get them to evaluate you AND determine what is going on with your previous care team. That would give you an independent opinion so that, either way, you get the help you need.
I don't smoke marijuana and I take an anti-psychotic. They told me to mail him dolls because he treats his significant others like dolls. But, he is nicer now that I explained to him that someone else told me to do that. I don't know why they told me to do anything. I just wanted to know what to do about people telling me to do things.
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The dolls still don't make any sense. What do they have to do with being tough? You are also no longer with this man, so it does not seem like him abusing you is an immediate threat. Regardless, you say you apologized to him for your actions and are happy that he is no longer mad at you. You also posted about how you think he is nice sometimes and isn't all bad. The logic here doesn't make sense, which suggests something more is going on.


On other threads, you have stated that you do not want to be on medication and you smoke pot because you believe it helps schizophrenia (despite evidence to the contrary). That suggests you are not on your meds and that you are also self-medicating with illegal drugs. While no one can say for certain, that strongly suggests that you are hallucinating and that is why you believe you are supposed to be doing these things. If you really want to know for sure, you could go to a new hospital or a new doctor (not affiliated with your current mental health workers) and get them to evaluate you AND determine what is going on with your previous care team. That would give you an independent opinion so that, either way, you get the help you need.

I think that the guy that is sometimes nice isn't the same man. One op was told to block on facebook and the other mail dolls and call names. Not same ex

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