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#226
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I don't know him, or his situation but I do know very well the contractual terms for workers in the NHS and the complaints processes for the HCPC along with other regulatory bodies. So I know if there's any kind of formal complaint or disciplinary process that in and of itself would prohibit him from contacting you. I don't know if his employer has started such a process or not but it's one reasonable option, out of many, that would explain why he hasn't replied to you.
And I'd expect an advocate with 30 years experience to know that death or coma aren't the only reasons for ending a course of therapy in an untimely way. |
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#227
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the only 'excusable' reasons, Merecat. a therapist could exit therapy because his cat died. But it isn't a reasonable explanation or excuse. but they can do that if they have a sore toe even.
thanks for the explanation It does help mitigate it a bit that he is not allowed to contact me in any way but it still sucks. And it only disempowers me more which makes me want to throw the book at him. What a mess. I just wish I didn't wake up in anguish every single morning at 4am. I am in my 9th week of this. It is so debilitating. I wish I had never met him. I wish I had never started work with him. I wish I had not been seduced into trusting him. I wish I had not met such a crap therapist, more crap than any of the previous ones. |
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#228
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MariaLucy, it sounds like you have a well thought out plan. I hope that it brings healing. I can't imagine how much you are suffering.
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#229
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OMG, the irony.
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#230
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I've not been following this thread much, been in the midst of my own similar stuff. I'm not feeling so vindictive any more, but it IS important to me to try to have my voice heard and to try to bring the kind of harm which happened to me to the attention of some people in the profession, at least. So I definitely understand where you're coming from, MariaLucy.
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#231
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Then I wrote a short story about it. Which I haven't quite finished. I might post it here if I feel okay with it. As my mental health advisor made clear - no matter what had happened to my T, short of a coma or death - there are a variety of ways to not have damaged me further by doing such a brutal ending. Jeez. I feel so stabbed in the back. From the man who assured me for six years that he was on my side, would never just drop me, cared about deeply and wanted me to open up and be vulnerable with him. ![]() |
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#232
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I just got a letter from his line manager, just right now.
It says I am writing to say that due to unforseen circumstances (name) [CRAP Therapist]is unable to continue offering therapy to you and this also includes offering ending sessions. Due to confidentiality I am unable to disclose the reasons for this. I understand that this is a difficult situation for you" She goes on to say she got a letter from my mental health advocate but I have to give your consent before they can share any information with him. It ends "please make no further attempts to contact him." |
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#233
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My EX T's therapy with me was not unethical but may have been unconventional He couldn’t be disciplined by employer once he has left employment - he has LEFT the employment as far as we know. - he can mutually agree with me to a private low fee therapy ending outside the NHS once he is no longer an NHS employee - if you are requesting this, it becomes legitimate and is clearly an attempt to resolve the problem you have You can do free therapy that is proper therapy – not paying doesn’t make it “informal” |
#234
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What do you think of the "free therapy"? My ex-T may be trying to arrange something like that, I'm not sure. I've had an email exchange with her the last few days. One of the issues we had during the "rupture" was that I was feeling taken advantage of by having to pay for sessions to try to "repair" things when I was fairly confident that it was her emotional problem as much or more than mine. That's a problem with the whole idea of "personal relationships as a business". A lot of rethinking about that is in order, I think.
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#235
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Yes, I think it is unfair, HereToday, to expect clients to pay for sessions in which the client has to sort out the therapists emotional messes.
I didn't actually pay for therapy as it was through the NHS but I would have been well pissed off if I had had to invest money for all those hours to only be ****ed over by the therapist at the end. |
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#236
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From the letter from the line manager, it sounds to me like crap-t has done something pretty horrible and they can't tell you what it is. I wonder if another client has filed a complaint and that is why he is no longer allowed to see you. Like maybe he has really messed up on boundaries or something.
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#237
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What a mess! |
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I'm so sorry for all you are going through. I also got the idea from that letter, that it is something to do with legal restrictions. A court case, maybe not related to therapy, or how could he still be working? It's confusing, but if it's any consolation, it sounds like he's in a mess of trouble!!!
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#239
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The annoying thing is that I don't know
I don't know whether he got mad at me and won't work at me he got sacked he is being disciplined for something I just don't know |
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#240
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At the end of yesterday my advocate got a letter from the legal department of the NHS trust, asking him to clarify his position/relationship to me, and also asking for a signed consent from me to talk to him.
Just the legal format of the letter knocked me this is getting really serious. fortunately I am being shielded somewhat by my advocate. I still find it hard that the man I loved most from my most broken places has either done this or is allowing this to be done to me. I cannot explain to you how deeply hurtful it is. It hurts so much that it takes my breath away, it is such a deep betrayal. EAch day, I try to pep talk myself into a better mind state. |
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#241
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Maria Lucy, I can see how much this is hurting, but I wonder if there is any way you can get the outcome you so desperately (understandably) want?
From what I understand, and please forgive me if I have this wrong, you are hoping for closure sessions at best, or an explanation at the least. But due to the very nature of then therapeutic relationship, and given the info they have shared here, it doesn't sound like you will realistically get either. This is a T who can't or won't engage with you further, and from the scant information provided by people around him, it sounds like that may actually be in your best interests. It sounds like this person could, for whatever reason, not be able to be effective with you or may even risk being damaging to you. As in every other realm in life, we have a right to ask the more probing questions when this happens, but we don't automatically have the right to the answers just because it's a therapeutic set up. In fact, some would argue, there is an imperative to be more boundaried. Even if it goes as far as a complaint, I wonder if you would get much more detail about the 'why' than a carefully worded, vague statement about it being something to do with his personal life. In the therapeutic model, this would be seen (rightly or wrongly) in your best interests. I hear people say that it's the right to stand up and be heard and empowerment that matters...but is that, in and of itself, what you really want, if you come up empty handed on either further therapeutic engagement or an explanation? |
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#242
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https://www.law.upenn.edu/live/files/4602-moralinjuryshayexcerptpdf
I feel what I am going through is moral injury as well as re trauma. Moral injury is: • A betrayal of what’s right. • by someone who holds legitimate authority (e.g., in the military—a leader. a psychologist). • in a high stakes situation. All three. \I may not get answers but I have to kick up a fuss and explain how damaging their attitude to me has been. there is deep lack of compassion and respect in this local NHS Trust. I am trying to enable them to see their short comings. |
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#243
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#244
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At the moment we are now engaged in the formal complaints procedure. Apparently we only 40 days from beginning of complaint to end ?!?!?!?!?
We have been contacted by the Trust's legal department - so they are aware that we will take this further if they try to fudge this. |
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#245
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What does fudge it mean? Just dismiss the complaint? Not give you the outcome you want? At which point, what do you do? Sue?
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#246
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I am struggling emotionally with the confusion and bewilderment and pain and loss. It is still, two months on, really raw and painful. I have gone from 3 to 4 hrs a week therapy as an at risk client to zero therapy. And the centre has just left me alone after I refused the woman 55 miles away. I don't want to even be near another therapist but some days I wish I had some way of processing all of this instead of writing it out or thinking about it endlessly in my head.
Last edited by MariaLucy; Nov 18, 2016 at 06:28 PM. Reason: got the numbers wrong |
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#247
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Oh god, I had the most awful dream of him last night. I woke at 3am missing him so badly I couldn't get back to sleep. This is like some cruel hell realm. I wish it would stop hurting.
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#248
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'Somewhere up above the great divide Where the sky is wide, and the clouds are few A man can see his way clear to the light 'You have all the grace you need for today, and today is all that matters.' - Steve Austin |
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#249
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I cannot believe they are treating me this way either.
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MariaLucy, I know you were referred to a therapist 55 miles away. Is there something about the NHS (is that the UK?) that means you can only see that therapist? Can't you somehow find one closer, and then this piece of the issue won't cause you so much upset?
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