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Old May 28, 2017, 10:26 PM
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My real point, as a sufferer of serious health anxiety myself, is that a person whose illness is "all in their head" still deserves to be treated with kindness rather than dismissal. Their suffering is completely real to them.
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Oh, I agree. I have a bit of hypochondria too, and have real terror over hospitals...but I was partly responding to art's post with knowledge of her H through past posts...
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If that was me, and my H ran out because he was feeling sick (and didn't give me instructions on how to finish his picks), I doubt I would even touch the computer. But also, I can be quite an un-emotional beehotch sometimes
I too am more unemotional. I mean I might eventually go check on him but I doubt I would've tried to take care of his other stuff.[/QUOTE]
I probably would go outside to check on them, depending on the situation I guess.
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I know -I thought you and I were in agreement
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Art -I don't think you did anything to anybody.

It seems to me right now a good number of people are trying to take on responsibility for other people ithat just really isn't theirs -not just Art. People are apologizing all the time for stuff they couldn't possibly be responsible for.

Art- I find hypochondriacs to be very difficult for me to deal with. I'm not that sympathetic to them. I try not to be mean to them but We both (me and any hypochondriac) do better if I don't try and fix them or take care of them. For me, I sort of go about it as "it's your problem and you are choosing to live with it or are working on it ( depending on the situation) and I'm going to accept you're doing what you want to do and go on with my life. I wish you well with it." I can't fix them. I am friends with some hypochondriacs -but we've gotten to the point where we both just accept that I don't hang around and listen or get involved with the hypochondria
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Old May 28, 2017, 10:27 PM
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I'm sorry everyone. It's just been a very long time dealing with this. I don't mean to make anyoen feel bad who deasl with health anxiety. I am going to take a break from PC for awhile. Maybe i should follow the others who deleted their accounts.
WHat? Nooooo! Don't leeavveeee meeeeeeee
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Old May 28, 2017, 11:35 PM
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so he's actually a manipulative narcissist...
I can well believe it.
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Old May 28, 2017, 11:40 PM
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Basically, Art, if he's making s**t up because he's too lazy to do stuff that is really terrible, manipulative behaviour. (Also extremely childish... Like, four year old level?)

If he's really suffering, whether it's 'all in his head' or not, then he deserves your sympathy and your help, even if it's hard sometimes. He does need to do his best to help himself, though, and if doctors can't do anything for him, perhaps he needs anxiety meds or therapy?

I guess only you can surmise which of those things it is.
I sometimes think...

If someone is pretending to be crazy, they're not pretending.
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Old May 29, 2017, 01:10 AM
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So, I was struck by something today. It started with just a comment made in a tv show- the character said "I am happy with my life, and my kids, and there is nothing I would change."

Then I wondered: are there people out there who are truly, genuinely happy with their lives?


at the beginning of therapy I once said to T: " No one is happy. Everyone is secretly miserable". T paused for a moment and then answered: "Hm. I think I'm pretty content with my life and yeah, happy. Am I not human then?"
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Old May 29, 2017, 01:47 AM
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its almost 2 am and I'm awake. my old dog was stumbling around again, and i gave him a pain med but now i am freaked out, so wide awake. no sleep for me
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Old May 29, 2017, 02:42 AM
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at the beginning of therapy I once said to T: " No one is happy. Everyone is secretly miserable". T paused for a moment and then answered: "Hm. I think I'm pretty content with my life and yeah, happy. Am I not human then?"
My T says the goal is to be content. Happiness comes and goes, but you can still be content during difficult times.
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Old May 29, 2017, 03:26 AM
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at the beginning of therapy I once said to T: " No one is happy. Everyone is secretly miserable". T paused for a moment and then answered: "Hm. I think I'm pretty content with my life and yeah, happy. Am I not human then?"
Hm, i've never asked T is he happy...
He said once: "I'm fine. Not without problems, of course"
But "having problems" doesn't mean "not being happy". I think he's happy. His life is perfect.
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Old May 29, 2017, 04:50 AM
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Some thoughts. It used to be important to me to say, "i'm a good person, i always turn the other cheek." But we only have two cheeks - you dont have to stay standing there. If walking away makes me a terrible person in some people's eyes, fine, I'll take it. But i think its okay to walk away from evil, from something that's not righteous, thats not honest. THAT is honoring - accepting - who they really are.

But hey - no judgment - you do you!
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Old May 29, 2017, 05:11 AM
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Art, I wasn't offended by what you said... I understand it must be very difficult to live with an H who behaves like that, regardless of his reasons.

I was just expressing something that is very important to me. It wasn't intended as an attack on you.
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Old May 29, 2017, 05:38 AM
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What a miserable morning.
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Old May 29, 2017, 05:51 AM
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I woke up in a nasty mood. Not sure why. It's rainy this AM though it's supposed to clear later. I have a Barbecue to go to later so hopefully my mood improves by then but at the moment-I don't want to see a person or a burger to be honest. I have laundry in the wash and I have to go clean the bathroom and mop the floors in the house. My head hurts. Maybe I'll go douse the bathroom in bleach, let it sit while drinking a cup coffee and reading ludicrous threads on here, then go clean it. That seems like a plan.
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Old May 29, 2017, 06:12 AM
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What a miserable morning.


Mornig? Isn't it 12 o'clock where you live?

Good morning though *brings lucozi coffee* (just don't ask me how. I had to bribe my classmates all morning to bring me coffee)
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Old May 29, 2017, 06:16 AM
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Mornig? Isn't it 12 o'clock where you live?

Good morning though *brings lucozi coffee* (just don't ask me how. I had to bribe my classmates all morning to bring me coffee)
thank you Munie. I really do need coffee!

It was technically still morning when I posted that... But yeah, I woke up late. Didn't sleep till about 4.30am.
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Old May 29, 2017, 06:19 AM
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thank you Munie. I really do need coffee!


It was technically still morning when I posted that... But yeah, I woke up late. Didn't sleep till about 4.30am.


Hugs... I read about the storm. I'm glad we only get very very few of those... And that it didn't hit your city!
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Old May 29, 2017, 06:27 AM
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Hugs... I read about the storm. I'm glad we only get very very few of those... And that it didn't hit your city!
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I'm rather snotty still but mostly alright!

Did you sleep okay? No nasty dreams I hope?
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I'm rather snotty still but mostly alright!


Did you sleep okay? No nasty dreams I hope?


Hihi. Maybe I should have brought you tea instead of coffee then

You know, just normal stuff... someone threw a nuclear bomb on "my country" and killed "multiple me's". Better than people screaming for hours or being locked in a room full of blood, I guess ^^
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I; desperately trying to stay positive and optimistic
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Old May 29, 2017, 06:43 AM
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Morning couch.

I am up and trying to relax a little before work. I still have to do my individual assignment for my masters course. Geeze...I have been bad at getting stuff done in this course. I am off at 6 though, so I shall get it done tonight.

I need to shower eventually before heading to work. I have not in a couple of days because I just have not had the energy to. Bad Squirrel. Pdoc would not be pleased..but what he doesn't know won't hurt him.

I still need to clean my room as well...I am procrastinating on a lot of stuff lately. I just don't care sometimes. Hopefully, I can get my room clean before the lady I live with sees my room. It is pretty bad right now

Still worried about my brother. I just don't know how he got on the path he is on. I care about him, but don't understand his situation or mindset. I have my own personal garbage to deal with and now this only adds to it. I'm not mad, I just wish he'd change and get out of the vicious cycle he is in.

I need to go take my meds while I am thinking about it, so I don't forget and fail to take them.
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Old May 29, 2017, 06:47 AM
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That just sounded like a panic attack to me. How is he at the poker tables, does he freak out like that then too?
That's exactly what I was thinking--that it sounded like a panic attack. With the getting hot/flushed, upset stomach. I can have those and then a half hour later be fine and laughing. They can be really awful and scary while they're happening, then when they stop I tend to be OK. So it's possible he really was feeling awful for a bit. But I get the sense your H wouldn't be the type to admit it might be anxiety, so he tries to find a physical explanation for it.
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Old May 29, 2017, 06:54 AM
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Art, I hope you don't leave. I like reading your posts. But I understand if you want to step back for a bit.
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Old May 29, 2017, 06:58 AM
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(((Munie))) that doesn't sound like an okay sleep

I'm writing my email to T in my head and I just keep thinking of really stupid things to say, like "hope you had a good bank holiday and didn't miss me too much!"
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Old May 29, 2017, 07:00 AM
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Not better, not worse. I'm sorry you had bad dreams.

I'm off work today, and yet I've been awake since 4. I wish my mind would take a break sometimes.
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Old May 29, 2017, 07:31 AM
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Argh! I wish I could get into T this week (my next appt is not until next week). She is really busy and has too many people she sees, so it her schedule books up a month in advance, sometimes more. I want someone to talk to about all of this. I am not doing well. Due to not making appointments soon enough, it has been 5 weeks since I last saw her (it will be 6 by the time I see her next week). I hate going this long without T. Pdoc can only offer so much as he does not offer T. I don't see him until next week either. Sucks to be me.
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