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![]() atisketatasket, CantExplain, LonesomeTonight, ruh roh
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#52
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It might have been different if MC had really taken ownership of what he'd done, how he'd hurt me. If he'd apologized. Like, "I can see now that I messed up, and why you were hurt by it. I'm sorry." But it still feels like he's putting things back on me. That they're things I have to work through and grow from. Stuff about how "trust" isn't a black-or-white thing. Kind of...hm, in a paternal way, I guess... |
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This is really stupid and random, but I think it helped that he was wearing a really ugly sweater today...
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![]() atisketatasket, CantExplain, ElectricManatee
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Just printed out Piaf's paperwork.
First of all, it is 24 pages long. Second, large parts of it are not boilerplate but appear to have been drawn up by a lawyer. Third, she details her plan in the event of death or incapacitation and lists her executor. And she wants me to rate on a scale of 1 to 10 my trust level in therapists. Gee, what should I put down? ![]() ETA: Can't even find any typos. |
![]() unaluna
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![]() awkwardlyyours, ElectricManatee, LonesomeTonight, ruh roh, SalingerEsme, WarmFuzzySocks
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I think a lot of them believe that working through a conflict is a benefit and that offering to do so is something that is a good thing. I think it is crap, but reading stuff by them where they flat out say it is what leads me to believe they profess such a thing on a regular basis. I don't think mc was trying to pressure but was leaving the door open sort of thing.
There is this guy (who I think is an asshole but many seem to like him) https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog...n-quit-therapy https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog...i-what-why-how who touts such an idea. There are others but I don't have time to list them now. From my perspective, mc had not been doing marriage counseling in a long time and everyone was willing to go along with it. The whole situation kept getting very triangulated with other therapists.
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Please NO @ Selfishness is not living as one wishes to live, it is asking others to live as one wishes to live. Oscar Wilde Well Behaved Women Seldom Make History - Laurel Thatcher Ulrich Pain is inevitable. Suffering is optional. |
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Something to do with Oreos....?
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He did say that, even after we formally terminate, we're always welcome to come back. This month thing is sort of a trial run, I think, see how H and I manage on our own--and I guess how I manage on my own. |
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A quote from the Howes guy (again - I think he an asshole)
Grudge: Given the emotional nature of many therapy issues, it's not surprising that conflicts between therapist and client sometimes occur. If not adequately addressed and resolved in the therapy, some clients bail. Since therapy is where many people go to figure out relationships, this premature ending is both tragic and ironic. and this: https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog...i-introduction
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He is of the evangelistic sort of therapy school - he advocates seeing a therapist even if you don't think anything is wrong. That he gets paid - well he glosses over that part of it.
He is a jerk.
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Please NO @ Selfishness is not living as one wishes to live, it is asking others to live as one wishes to live. Oscar Wilde Well Behaved Women Seldom Make History - Laurel Thatcher Ulrich Pain is inevitable. Suffering is optional. |
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From one of the Howes articles--seems applicable to me:
"Beyond specialty, there are also times when interpersonal issues become a barrier to the therapy. In therapy, as in all close relationships, problems with trust, communication, and empathy could render therapy an obstacle rather than a conduit to healing." and "One point to consider is whether the obstacle is central to your issues or not...But if you have a fear of heights and your interpersonal issues with the therapist are getting in the way, leaving therapy could be a good option." |
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The scale is 1-10? I would write down 0.
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Please NO @ Selfishness is not living as one wishes to live, it is asking others to live as one wishes to live. Oscar Wilde Well Behaved Women Seldom Make History - Laurel Thatcher Ulrich Pain is inevitable. Suffering is optional. |
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Please NO @ Selfishness is not living as one wishes to live, it is asking others to live as one wishes to live. Oscar Wilde Well Behaved Women Seldom Make History - Laurel Thatcher Ulrich Pain is inevitable. Suffering is optional. |
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Oh, I figured that. I didn't think you'd necessarily advocate for anyone to keep seeing any T
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Was thinking -5. Just to get the point across. |
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Tragic and ironic. Those are pretty strong words for our friend Howe. I wonder if that is a more recent post; i havent read him in a long time.
My advice to LT is: you were kinda knowingly poking the bear. I agree with Howe, it WOULD be tragic and ironic now to just run away without facing the bear youve awakened from his slumber. Mostly because the nature of the beast is to run directly into another bear. BUT - sometimes its easier - it definitely was for me - to address the same issues with bear#2, when i saw them happening all over again. But i was like - but bear#1 was a grizzly! And bear#2 is a dancing bear! They are nothing alike! Wth am i talking about... |
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Now, I'm partly seeing current T to help with transference stuff with MC. If transference were to develop with T*, that would be different and could be useful in the therapy. If...say...seeing him caused me to develop a fear of men with beards (he has a beard), which caused issues in my marriage because H also has a beard...then that could be reason to leave. (I'm aware that example makes little sense!) *I honestly don't think it has so far, maybe a little bit of attachment, but not so much transference--like I'm looking at him and thinking of him as my T. Not random male authority figure or romantic figure. |
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I agree! That's what I wanted from mnqye-t, respect for my autonomy and self determination!! I need to have what I want matter!! And if/when I go back I will say that!
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Hope I didn't kill the couch...I'm doing strangely OK right now. Worried it's only temporary...hence the scheduling of T tomorrow.
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I think you rock, LT. Well done.
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Oh, and sign me up for the annual fleeing from therapy extravaganza. I gave notice of taking a break, may be permanent. |
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