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Old Jul 12, 2019, 02:55 AM
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I'll definitely try to bring it up next time we discuss it. I wish I had a support person I could bring with me but I don't.


When do you see T next?
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Old Jul 12, 2019, 03:00 AM
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When do you see T next?
Monday evening. Not horribly long but didn't get to see him today since he went out of town again this weekend.
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Old Jul 12, 2019, 03:02 AM
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I technically have the money now to fly out to see my grandmother, but it feels wrong and weird. I haven't seen her since I was 14. And flights to the other side of the country last minute aren't cheap. Especially if I went with H. Flight+hotel+Uber/Lyft or renting a car. I hate spending money. But would I regret not going if she dies soon? She's supposedly doing better...a few more days in ICU and then going to a rehab place. I wish i had a way to get discounted flights and hotels...how the heck do people manage that?


Would you be able to go without H?
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Old Jul 12, 2019, 03:06 AM
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It really rather pisses me off that it took me almost 8 years of therapy to be ready to even HEAR that. I have just been beating myself up for years upon years upon years. It's all I ever knew how to do. Maybe I am still a child in some ways.

She also said today when I told her it pissed me off that it took us this long to get here, that maybe, that's because it's not something that is broken that can be fixed but that it's something I just had to be in, or whatever, until I got to the point of saying "I'm sick of this ****!" and finally do something about it. I don't know. But I am tired of it.
The thing is it takes as long as it takes to get there. Someone else may be done with just two sessions- but it's YOUR therapy.
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Old Jul 12, 2019, 03:42 AM
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I so wanted to paint today but I was in too much pain and my ponytail got in the paint and I have paint down the back of shirt and on my neck and I had stand in the shower on one foot crying because I was stupid enough to get paint in my hair and I was driving in my car and this song
was on the cd and I started crying and had to pull over. So a large part of my day was spent in tears which is unusual as I hardly ever cry but since being discharged by exT I seem to be able to cry easier
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Old Jul 12, 2019, 04:24 AM
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I so wanted to paint today but I was in too much pain and my ponytail got in the paint and I have paint down the back of shirt and on my neck and I had stand in the shower on one foot crying because I was stupid enough to get paint in my hair and I was driving in my car and this song
was on the cd and I started crying and had to pull over. So a large part of my day was spent in tears which is unusual as I hardly ever cry but since being discharged by exT I seem to be able to cry easier


There's no harm done with the paint and it doesn't mean your stupid. You washed it off and it's something I would probably do.

It's okay to cry.
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Old Jul 12, 2019, 04:37 AM
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There's no harm done with the paint and it doesn't mean your stupid. You washed it off and it's something I would probably do.

It's okay to cry.
I was just thinking back to earlier with my exT I used to make myself bleed by digging my nails into my arm rather than cry in front of him towards the end I used to let a few tears trickle down. I hear you saying it ok but I don't believe it
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Old Jul 12, 2019, 04:39 AM
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Blame is a dead end street. People don’t want to be blamed so they avoid taking responsibility. Or they just sit around and blame themselves and then learn nothing, just beat up on themselves.


2ex had me going there for a while with the idea of blame and fault. It’s a way to keep others or yourself down. It’s a child’s way of viewing the world. Screw that.
I needed to hear that. I've been blaming myself for someone else's actions and beating myself up for the last 7 or 8 years. Instead of taking responsibility for my part and letting the guilty party take responsibility for their part, I've been vilifying myself and my health has suffered for it.

The couch is better than therapy.
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Old Jul 12, 2019, 04:52 AM
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Ugh, woke up at 3am and can't get back to sleep.
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Old Jul 12, 2019, 05:40 AM
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I was just thinking back to earlier with my exT I used to make myself bleed by digging my nails into my arm rather than cry in front of him towards the end I used to let a few tears trickle down. I hear you saying it ok but I don't believe it
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It's okay not to believe it now, but I hope one day you will see it for yourself.

Can you still contact GP to help support you?
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Old Jul 12, 2019, 05:41 AM
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Ugh, woke up at 3am and can't get back to sleep.
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Old Jul 12, 2019, 05:59 AM
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Just got home from seeing L. Hoo boy what a super emotional session THAT was! I was totally bawling, tears streaming down my face the whole 9 yards. I was a mess. She was drumming for me at the time and I just lost it. While she was drumming I heard this message come through clearly from deep inside me that said "Stop holding on so damn tight. Let go!! Just ****ing LET GO!!" and that terrified me because I don't want to be the destruction. I am afraid that if I just let go and be myself, I would be like a tornado, like a massive storm, and wreak havoc on my life as I know it now. If I just let go and be myself, I wouldn't worry about H, or what my Mother and the rest of my family thinks, I would end my marriage and I would BE the destruction that I so fear. I haven't cried that hard in a looooong time. I think I have earned a glass of wine....
If you do your letting go WITHIN therapy, you should be OK. The tornado will blow itself out if you give it a chance.

To switch metaphors: let T be your lightning rod. Even if you burn her, there will be no harm done in the real world.
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Old Jul 12, 2019, 06:09 AM
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It really rather pisses me off that it took me almost 8 years of therapy to be ready to even HEAR that.
Therapy really does take that long. You needn't beat youself up about THAT.
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Old Jul 12, 2019, 06:21 AM
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Old Jul 12, 2019, 06:31 AM
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Would you guys see your T if he offered you a session during his holiday?

(He did the same thing last year too. )
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Old Jul 12, 2019, 06:34 AM
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Would you guys see your T if he offered you a session during his holiday?

(He did the same thing last year too. )

Yes, I would. Mine allows email when he's away, and I've used that, so I imagine I'd use a session as well. The way I see it is, they could always choose not to offer. If they offer, it's OK to use it.
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Old Jul 12, 2019, 08:00 AM
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If you do your letting go WITHIN therapy, you should be OK. The tornado will blow itself out if you give it a chance.

To switch metaphors: let T be your lightning rod. Even if you burn her, there will be no harm done in the real world.

I hadn't thought about it like that. I said the 'f' word in there yesterday and quickly apologized for it and she said this is my space and basically i can say whatever i want or need to in there. Will it? Blow itself out if I let it? It's pretty damn big. Can she handle it? Will there really be no harm done in the real world? Good things to ponder in the next 2 weeks (I already had a little vacation planned next week before I went back for the summer, so no session again til 7/25)
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Old Jul 12, 2019, 08:28 AM
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I ran out of time to respond to y'all earlier but I will throughout the day. Just wanted to say a quick thank you overall. I so appreciate couchies!
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Old Jul 12, 2019, 08:47 AM
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The thing is it takes as long as it takes to get there. Someone else may be done with just two sessions- but it's YOUR therapy.
Thanks. I guess I know that in my head but have trouble feeling it....
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Old Jul 12, 2019, 08:58 AM
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Artie, I'm drinking so take this with a grain of salt. Just from what I see here, you love your husband and he loves you. It's not perfect, but is anything? You have a son that you love so much. He's becoming an adult and you're a proud Mom. You have love in your life. You don't have to change anything or you can change everything. Whatever you do, you have love. If you feel like you need to leave your marriage and go explore what your sexuality means to you, that's okay. You can leave your husband and still love him. The two aren't mutually exclusive. You have a child together and a history together. That doesn't vanish if you leave. If you stay, that's okay too. You can take as long as you need to decide what's best for you.
Thank you so much for all of this. L and I actually touched on the whole "it's not perfect, but is anything?" stuff yesterday a little bit. And thank you for the reminder that I don't have to put a time limit on myself.
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Old Jul 12, 2019, 09:32 AM
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Would you guys see your T if he offered you a session during his holiday?

(He did the same thing last year too. )
Difficult question.

From a standpoint of 'is it okay to take the session' I'd say yes. If he offers it, it's okay. He has to know how much he can take on and is willing to give, and if he want to then that's okay.

However, even though I intellectually know that, I could never agree to such an offer myself. I'd feel it'd create so many issues down the line for me that I'd not want to deal with that.
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Old Jul 12, 2019, 09:36 AM
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If the woman offered and I was willing to pay then I would take the appointment. I let therapists take care of themselves and believe if they offer then I will take them at their word that they are willing to do it.
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Old Jul 12, 2019, 09:45 AM
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Can't wait to be done with this damn presentation. It'll be over in two hours!
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Old Jul 12, 2019, 09:52 AM
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The therapist wouldn't offer a session during her holiday. If I had one who would, I don't think I'd take them up on it. However, I think I recall you saying that the one you see is going away for a month or something. That is a long time. I don't really know for sure what I would do in that situation. To be honest, I probably wouldn't want a therapist who went away for so long - especially when it wasn't the only vacation they took every year. It just wouldn't work for me.
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Old Jul 12, 2019, 10:02 AM
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SheHulk, there isn't a set way that voluntary admissions are done in my experience. I have always been voluntary - but as a minor, maybe it's different. Anyway, the first time, there was no ER. C went to the hospital and talked to someone. It was agreed we needed a rest. Had to sit in a wheelchair and went right up - luckily they had a bed. A couple days before that, we had also almost been admitted somewhere else - a private mental hospital. However, I hated the intake person because she was rude and my dad took pity on me and didn't make me stay. There was no ER there. Two other admissions were through the ER. Actually, one of them may have been involuntary because we overdosed (so obviously ER), but I'm not sure. After I was released from the pediatric ward, the cops handcuffed me and transported me to a private mental hospital. Then one other was straight to a private mental hospital, and those don't have ERs.

I think maybe the first one changed to involuntary because C stayed suicidal and kept SI'ing while we were there. And I think sometimes they do it for insurance purposes.
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