[ziggy1]

Anyone ever been to therapists/doctors that have said..."You want

to have to get better". This sounds condescending to me..and

when therapists/doctors say that it tends to make me feel even

lower. Sometimes it actually seems like they really don't

understand???

Anyone know how I feel or this statement makes you feel???

Has anyone ever been to a therapist/doctor who has said this?

Maybe made you feel like this????

Ziggy (Dave)

[Brian37]

if your going to climb a mountain, at some point your going to have to put your foot forward and into a rock or crevice that may not look or feel just right....if not you cannot climb to the top

the same can be said for depression......my therapist has made it clear that until I get more exercise, eat better, and make better decisions im not going to beat depression or climb the mountain

they do understand....they understand medicine and therapy alone can only go so far

[SweetSunshine]

(((((((((((((( Ziggy)))))))))))) Good to see you again!! Been wondering where you've been!! Hope your doing ok.

Well to answer your question, yes I've been asked/ told this many times. And as hurtful as it can be, they are right in asking I believe. Why? Well for me, It made me think harder of what I wanted for myself and my future. What has worked for me and what hasnt. And how do I want to move forward in life. I've had to make some very difficult choices, but they've proven to be the right ones thus far.

I think your T/ Doc are trying to get you to do the same thing hon. I dont think they are trying to make you feel worse. And I remember all to well how easy it was to blame them for that rather than to take matters into my own hands( Gain Control) and fight for myself. It can be done. Its harder than heck, but I have all the faith in the world in you and others here that you can do this. Your therapist can help you . And its not going to happen in one day, a week or a month. Its going to take bits and pieces of this and that and learning to incorporate them into your life. Which can take a couple months to longer. I took advantage of what happened to me this past fall with my family. And as much as I believe in family, I had to let them go. Just to see if that helped me out. And it did. They were fueling my depression, and low sense of confidence and self worth. I miss a couple of them. But I am not going to let all my hard work I've done these past few months be hindered by trying to rekindle things with them. I just feel they havent changed. So it won't do anyone any good.

Give yourself a try Ziggy, your worth the time and effort. You've got a wonderful soul that deserves to let the sun shine into it more so it can grow. And I'm always here if you need anything.

Hugz
Bethy

[ziggy1]

((((((Beth)))))) & ((((((Brian)))))

Thankyou for the Support.....!!!

Yes, my current T asked me if I was committed to working hard to make changes in my lifestyle (as mentioned above--regular exercise, improved diet, etc.) as well as doing "assignments"--applying what I am learning in my sessions in my life.

I did have a T "flunk" me because I was making no progress after an overdose--I was stuck & couldn't move past the intense emotions that caused me to do that so she basically said she couldn't help me. So I guess if you aren't committed & willing to work, the T feels you are wasting his/her time.--Suzy

[MissCharlotte]

((Ziggy))

I think I know what you mean. For the longest time I kept thinking (and still do sometimes) that staying alive was good enough--that "getting better" wasn't necessary. But I did come to the realization that if I don't want to get better I won't. Period. But that's just me and I change my mind frequently.

You know, if you really, really want something it is easier to achieve than if you don't really want it. You kind of have to buy into the goal. Anyway, I think that's what they mean.

I'm not sure if I believe its a universal truth because sometimes we heal through the power of our unconscious when those things that are in the conscious are too difficult to bear.

Feel better.

Peace

[Defective]

For me when im told this(and i have been a couple of times) i feel like what i am doing is not being counted. I feel like im doing as much as i can and they think its not enough. They think i can just do a 180 degree turn and change habits ive had of doing/thinking things. It feels like they expect me to jump off of mountains with no safety net. Then the next session when im angry they talk about baby steps. Thats how it makes me feel and for me it usually makes me want to fire that t. But to others it seems to work good. So maybe i am not handling it correctly either.

I think for me, part of wanting to change is understanding what's wrong with me in the first place. Like, I've had this anxiety my entire life, and I thought that's how everyone felt. I'm just coming to the realization that it's not normal, at ALL, and that I'm going to have to work to change it. But without that realization, I wouldn't work to change it, because I wouldn't even know I needed to (if that makes any sense!).

It's really hard to change patterns that we've had for so long that they feel really natural. As bad as it feels, it feels comfortable in a way, and then there's the fear of the unknown....what will life be like if I DO change??

Sorry you're feeling bad ((((((((((( Dave )))))))))))

[MyBestKids2]

Thats usually my que---- exit stage right!