When pain goes beyond tears...

((( Tomi )))

I don't know what happened, but I do know how much you've been hurt in the past. I'm sorry that it has come back to hurt you again now

Hang in there - you are a survivor!

((( Tomi )))

Ewe have lots of sheep in your flock who love you.

Here are some fluffy hugs for ewe.

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{{{{{{{{{{{{Julia}}}}}}}}}}}}}}

When they read this thread, they'll point at all of you and say "They just HAVE TO ENABLE her, don't they?" Oh, well... I know better.

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how are we enabling you???? I guess i dont understand

{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{LMO}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}

Same ole, same ole, Hon. I think it's time I just cut my losses.

Love you!

{{{{{{{{{{Petunia}}}}}}}}}}}}}}

I know about my "flock". What I need to learn to do is cut my losses and ACCEPT what I do have, stop fighting was isn't and open my eyes to was IS.

Love you, "Tuni"!

*I* don't enable you.... and I still think you're the bee's knees. So THERE

{{{{{{{{{{Mel}}}}}}}}}}}}}

My interpretation of what was said is that the membership doesn't give me hell and crawl down my throat like she does. You "allow" me to feel and think as I do, you tell me I'm right. MY OPINION? She doesn't know the true meaning of "enable". I think the shoe is on HER foot, but then... that's my "twisted" opinion.

I know this is going to come around and bite me in the ***, but I can't do anything right as far as she's concerned so... what the heck! Jerry told John that for her to become a member here or to even read what I post, her KNOWING that I'm here, is like tapping my phone line. In her book, I'm sure she thinks that's perfectly fine!

Whatever... I have to learn to not care. It's useless. It's just "the getting from here to there" that's damn near impossible.

When I lost my daughter, it was the grandkids that I grieved. This time, it's "my baby," the man that I grieve. I don't know...

(((((((((((tomi)))))))))))))))))))

I would be horrified if someone I know very well joined this site!!!!!!!!! It's worse than tapping phone lines, it's like tapping into your heart, into your soul!!!!!!

i agree with you Tanya.. by someone coming here just to see what you are writting about is like stealing your most inner thoughts

Those are/were my feelings, but apparently she NEEDED to become a member to know my true feelings because she didn't believe I like her and am fully capable of being friendly to her. She thinks I'm nice to her face and then talk about her to family to turn them against her. I don't NEED to talk about her, to gossip! They already know what she's like! The only reason I post here about her and my son is because THERE IS A PROBLEM I would like to solve. Obviously, she won't allow it. She would rather make John choose between her and her family and his parents. He's married to her and they have three kids! How does she think he's going to choose, for pity's sake?? Truth of the matter is, he shouldn't have to choose!

I've even told John that I respect the fact that she's his wife. It's HIS choice. It's not good enough.

AAAAHHHHH! Whatever!

LOL That's for damn sure! You certainly have never enabled me... at the risk of getting your eyebrows singed! LOL

{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{LMo}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}

Like I said in my original post. Blame abounds and never comes to rest in any one place, it just hovers like a dark cloud making everything dark.

I'm sorry this even touched on her. I suppose I need to say that even now, I could get along with her, be kind and polite. I've never said anything to her directly. It's her insecurities and her own way of dealing with things that started all this. It just goes totally against my grain.

My daughter told Jerry that there are worse things than growing up in a dirty house and we all know that to be true. The kids could be taken away and placed in an abusive foster home.

In short, I wanted better for my son, but he made his choice and has made up his mind to stick by it. I can respect that. The only thing that hurts me is how he has been made to believe that I'm a different person than I am. He can't see the forest for the trees. He should know me better than to believe I twist everything. He grew up with me, after all!

As difficult as it is, I'm going to reject most of the blame that's been thrown in my direction. My worst mistake was to voice my opinion to my son. I did it before he was ever seriously involved with her. She lived with me, you see.

So now... I pay the price and lose my son and grandchildren.