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Old Jul 12, 2015, 05:50 PM
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I was a barista for 13 years, up until this past year. Being friendly, flirty, motherly IS the job - what kind of tipper are you? Do you tip well? We baristas depend a great lot on our tips as income and you bet we're friendly about getting tips

Watch out - you might just wind up outing yourself from your favorite coffee spot. Don't be a creep. Old creeps frequent coffeehouses and every barista knows it.

As an aside, I've been married for 30 years to a man 16 years my senior. While we did raise two wonderful children, our marriage is messy. The age difference really wasn't that big of a deal at first, but as the years have passed the generational discrepancy is a major issue. And as I look back I wonder WHAT on EARTH was with a 34 year old man who asked an 18 year old girl out? EW. no wonder my family was alarmed! What was with him was, he never matured past the age of about 25. To this day my husband lives on his wealthy family's income.

How old are you mentally, emotionally?
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Old Jul 12, 2015, 07:17 PM
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I was a barista for 13 years, up until this past year. Being friendly, flirty, motherly IS the job - what kind of tipper are you? Do you tip well? We baristas depend a great lot on our tips as income and you bet we're friendly about getting tips

Watch out - you might just wind up outing yourself from your favorite coffee spot. Don't be a creep. Old creeps frequent coffeehouses and every barista knows it.

As an aside, I've been married for 30 years to a man 16 years my senior. While we did raise two wonderful children, our marriage is messy. The age difference really wasn't that big of a deal at first, but as the years have passed the generational discrepancy is a major issue. And as I look back I wonder WHAT on EARTH was with a 34 year old man who asked an 18 year old girl out? EW. no wonder my family was alarmed! What was with him was, he never matured past the age of about 25. To this day my husband lives on his wealthy family's income.

How old are you mentally, emotionally?
What's so ew about it if you're both attracted to each other and like each other? Maybe he was mentally immature, so what? Is it morally wrong to be immature? Does it hurt anyone else if a person just acts young for their age? When I was in middle school I still acted like an elementary school kid, watching Cartoon Network instead of MTV, and I was given hell for it. Did I deserve that for being immature?
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Watch out - you might just wind up outing yourself from your favorite coffee spot. Don't be a creep. Old creeps frequent coffeehouses and every barista knows it.
A guy would get kicked out of a coffee shop for politely showing interest in a younger woman? Really? If I ever see that happen, I will seek asylum in a more civilized society like North Korea.
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Well I'm aware of all the issues - I probably am older than her parents. However, I'm not sure if I want to wait around for another opportunity - this one seemed real. I'm disappointed because it probably ain't gonna happen - my history is one of not acting and that just makes you a bitter old man. I guess I'm partially relieved because I don't really want anybody to be my caretaker but then again there are no guarantees that I'll ever get in this situation again. I don't know what is right or wrong -I just know it would be nice to be having dinner with her right now.

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Old Jul 13, 2015, 06:34 AM
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Well I'm aware of all the issues - I probably am older than her parents. However, I'm not sure if I want to wait around for another opportunity - this one seemed real. I'm disappointed because it probably ain't gonna happen but my history is one of not acting and that just makes you a bitter old man. I guess I'm partially relieved because I don't really want anybody to be my caretaker but then again there are no guarantees that I'll ever get in this situation again. I don't know what is right or wrong -I just know it would've nice to be having dinner with her right now.

You could potentially have a dinner with someone. Just keep putting yourself out there

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Old Jul 13, 2015, 05:05 PM
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Well I'm aware of all the issues - I probably am older than her parents. However, I'm not sure if I want to wait around for another opportunity - this one seemed real. I'm disappointed because it probably ain't gonna happen - my history is one of not acting and that just makes you a bitter old man. I guess I'm partially relieved because I don't really want anybody to be my caretaker but then again there are no guarantees that I'll ever get in this situation again. I don't know what is right or wrong -I just know it would be nice to be having dinner with her right now.
Then ask her. What have you got to lose? You can always go for coffee somewhere else if she says no and you are embarrassed
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Old Jul 13, 2015, 05:11 PM
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Then ask her. What have you got to lose? You can always go for coffee somewhere else if she says no and you are embarrassed

I think he said he did and she had a boyfriend

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Old Jul 13, 2015, 05:20 PM
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I think he said he did and she had a boyfriend

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i missed that. good for him if he did. If she has a boyfriend someone must have hit on her before. Oh the shame...
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Old Jul 13, 2015, 09:30 PM
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I've talked to her since - it would be nice to be her friend but I don't know if I can do that. Sad but it looks like we're just going to be acquaintances - I have enough of those thank you very much.
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Old Jul 13, 2015, 11:00 PM
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Well I'm aware of all the issues - I probably am older than her parents. However, I'm not sure if I want to wait around for another opportunity - this one seemed real. I'm disappointed because it probably ain't gonna happen - my history is one of not acting and that just makes you a bitter old man. I guess I'm partially relieved because I don't really want anybody to be my caretaker but then again there are no guarantees that I'll ever get in this situation again. I don't know what is right or wrong -I just know it would be nice to be having dinner with her right now.
I read this study that said that drinking too much coffee made people bitter. I know that sounds weird, but somehow or other they discovered it by doing blood tests--they were originally looking for something else. If you want to pretend to be a spring chicken instead of an old goat, who in the barnyard will cry fowl?? Generally speaking two kinds of young gals like to go out with old men: the gals with daddy issues and the gals who are looking for a sugar daddy. Two different kinds of "whose your daddy" if you know what I mean.
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Old Jul 13, 2015, 11:37 PM
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I've talked to her since - it would be nice to be her friend but I don't know if I can do that. Sad but it looks like we're just going to be acquaintances - I have enough of those thank you very much.
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I read this study that said that drinking too much coffee made people bitter. I know that sounds weird, but somehow or other they discovered it by doing blood tests--they were originally looking for something else. If you want to pretend to be a spring chicken instead of an old goat, who in the barnyard will cry fowl?? Generally speaking two kinds of young gals like to go out with old men: the gals with daddy issues and the gals who are looking for a sugar daddy. Two different kinds of "whose your daddy" if you know what I mean.
friend of mine says he likes his coffee black and bitter like his women
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One can dream can't one.......
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Old Jul 14, 2015, 12:34 AM
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One can dream can't one.......
If some people had their way, there would be thought police, so that even your dreams would need to conform to society's rules.
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Old Jul 14, 2015, 05:00 AM
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friend of mine says he likes his coffee black and bitter like his women

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Old Jul 14, 2015, 07:25 AM
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Mac, things would be a bit different except that you keep seeming to miss the main point:

She's a barista. Her job is to be very friendly. That is literally what she is paid to do. The chance of her wanting a relationship or a friendship from someone that she sees regularly at work is very slim. The relationship that you feel there is... it isn't genuine. Is there a chance it could be? Sure, it does happen. But it's very slim.

The further the age difference the slimmer it will be, because most people (any gender, age, dating-preferences) don't tend to form relationships (friendships or dating) with people outside of a relative age-range to themselves.

Should it leave you bitter? No. You misread a situation. That happens. It's ok that it happens. Feeling disappointment is totally natural.... but bitter? She's doing her job, and hasn't done anything wrong at all. You just happen to be in a minority for dating preferences.

You'll be more likely to have positive results if you find ways to connect with women closer in your age range.
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friend of mine says he likes his coffee black and bitter like his women
Does he say this to black women or just to his racist friends?
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One can dream can't one.......
i can't find where you asked her? what happened?
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Old Jul 14, 2015, 12:51 PM
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What's so ew about it if you're both attracted to each other and like each other? Maybe he was mentally immature, so what? Is it morally wrong to be immature? Does it hurt anyone else if a person just acts young for their age? When I was in middle school I still acted like an elementary school kid, watching Cartoon Network instead of MTV, and I was given hell for it. Did I deserve that for being immature?
I'll tell you what's wrong with a man being emotionally immature. When said man becomes a husband and father and cannot properly support his family, major problems arise. When every time the rent or a bill is due and our immature man, at the age of 45, has to phone home to daddy for $$$ it's sickening. When no money is ever set aside for he and his wife's senior years, it's frightening.

When said man is so childish that he eventually leaves his wife and kids to move back to the home in which he grew up, in the town he grew up in, you tell me where there's a problem
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Old Jul 14, 2015, 12:55 PM
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A guy would get kicked out of a coffee shop for politely showing interest in a younger woman? Really? If I ever see that happen, I will seek asylum in a more civilized society like North Korea.
If the guy harasses or starts stalking the barista, even just hanging out during her shift - you bet he can get kicked out. There are loads of creeps in the world, my friend.

If the guy just asks the girl out and she refuses the situation could be so awkward that the guy no longer feels comfortable frequenting that coffee spot. Thus, he might lose his favorite hang-out.

Think about the possibilities. None of them are likely to end up good for the older man.
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I'll tell you what's wrong with a man being emotionally immature. When said man becomes a husband and father and cannot properly support his family, major problems arise. When every time the rent or a bill is due and our immature man, at the age of 45, has to phone home to daddy for $$$ it's sickening. When no money is ever set aside for he and his wife's senior years, it's frightening.

When said man is so childish that he eventually leaves his wife and kids to move back to the home in which he grew up, in the town he grew up in, you tell me where there's a problem
But who says every man has to become a husband and father? Maybe if society did not prescribe that lifestyle for everyone and shame people who want to keep living the single life, immature people wouldn't feel pressured to settle down. That way these men could continue casually dating younger women and immature women their own age until they mature a bit. Doesn't that sound like a better idea than playing the shame game?
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I didn't say I was poor - in fact I'm fairly affluent. I have a fat pension and a substantial investment portfolio so I'm not irresponsible. And I did talk about going out with her - that's when I found out she had a boyfriend. And this was not a spur of the moment thing - we've been exchanging life experiences for months. The boyfreind thing was a surprise because she has shared a lot of personal information with me - that's why I thought it would be okay even though it's her workplace.
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If the guy harasses or starts stalking the barista, even just hanging out during her shift - you bet he can get kicked out. There are loads of creeps in the world, my friend.

If the guy just asks the girl out and she refuses the situation could be so awkward that the guy no longer feels comfortable frequenting that coffee spot. Thus, he might lose his favorite hang-out.

Think about the possibilities. None of them are likely to end up good for the older man.
But what makes you think the OP is a creep? He sounds like a shy, respectful gentleman, and has certainly not said anything to indicate he is harassing or stalking anyone.

I wonder, if the genders were reversed, and it was an older woman showing interest in a younger male barista, would anyone be calling her a creep and suggesting she should be kicked out of the coffee shop?
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Also, what does being attracted to 25 year olds have to do with being careless and irresponsible? I fail to see the association. It's not like 25 year olds are teens, 25 year olds are often married with careers. So being "mentally 25" doesn't really equate to being irresponsible or careless.

What's funny is that if this was about a 25 year old male trying to hook up with a 19 year old female, people would be portraying the 25 year old as a "mature adult man who is not on the same level as the naive teen girl." But when it's an older male trying to get with a 25 year old female, the 25 year old is a young immature girl and the older man is immature for being interested in her.
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Wait..did I miss something?? She's been sharing "personal information" and it didn't include the boyfriend? That sounds odd to me.
I guess if you don't mind being a sugar daddy, you can find someone way younger than you, but why? You mentioned something about a caregiver? I'm so confused. Well, anyway, hang in there, you will meet someone.
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