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Have to wait til tomorrow .. she's still causing problems today. I'm just frustrated and stressed.
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I know people make ignorant comments and usually do just ignore but when she makes it impossible to ignore her by knocking on my door, causing my dogs to bark which in turn frustrates my husband .. which results in my stress level going through the roof ... I cannot ignore her comments.

I hope that clarifies my conundrum.
Can u politely ask her to stop bothering you? And make it clear that u wish for no further heated discussions and/or arguments with her? That you’re just looking for a peaceful environment?
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I believe it’s not against the law taking pictures of random dogs. You can’t be expected to get consent from a dog. For all you know you might not know who these dogs belong to. Could be stray. In our case we were told by management to take pics of dogs running around and they will investigate who they belong to. Which they did. Sure, don’t take pics of people

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Since you were told to do so by your landlord the law would rest on them any way - but the permission would need to be obtained from the owner (I thought I said that?) of the dogs, not the dogs themselves since they are the responsible party - same as with children, you would need to obtain permission from the parents to take pictures.
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Can u politely ask her to stop bothering you? And make it clear that u wish for no further heated discussions and/or arguments with her? That you’re just looking for a peaceful environment?
I can try that but judging from the way she blew up at me when I came out and said we are not the ones doing it when I heard her yelling about it to another neighbor.. not sure it will help, but worth a try... if she comes around again. Right now she is just creating a toxic environment by doing all she can to make my dogs bark.
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Old Jan 13, 2019, 04:29 PM
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Have to wait til tomorrow .. she's still causing problems today. I'm just frustrated and stressed.
It’s frustrating. Btw no idea why smiley face is attached to my post. Crazy.
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Old Jan 13, 2019, 04:32 PM
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It’s frustrating. Btw no idea why smiley face is attached to my post. Crazy.
Lol don't worry about smiley face - I dont see it anyway, but my chat has done stranger things even on messenger

And yes, it is frustrating both my husband and I.
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Old Jan 13, 2019, 04:34 PM
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As I have said - the landlady has said we must try to resolve it amongst ourselves. She was questioning why didn't we take our dogs with us - bc we were going somewhere dogs are not allowed and in this state it is illegal to leave them unattended in a car. Most places you can go and find ways of accommodating small dogs (we have chihuahuas) so she acted as if I was lying - so I laid it out for her. Please don't come at me as if this is my fault which you do by saying "you are opening yourself up to these discussions"- which comes across as "you bring this on yourself". I seriously doubt you would want others giving similar comments to you when you are stressed to a point of
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Oh I don’t think you are at fault. Not at all. I am just saying that you should avoid personal discussions re where you go and what you do. I had some awful neighbors in my life. I once had neighbors that I had to call police on daily. So I know about terrible dangerous neighbors. I am just saying don’t engage in any conversations and share nothing with them, for your own protection. Less they know safer you are.
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Old Jan 13, 2019, 04:41 PM
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Since you were told to do so by your landlord the law would rest on them any way - but the permission would need to be obtained from the owner (I thought I said that?) of the dogs, not the dogs themselves since they are the responsible party - same as with children, you would need to obtain permission from the parents to take pictures.
Dogs that are not on a leash and randomly run around could be photographed as it’s not your job determining who dogs belong to. If a dog is ona leash and being held by an owner then it’s a different story.

Also the only time you really cannot photograph a pet is if you intend to make money out of it. Such as sell pictures on the Internet. Laws about photographing someone else’s children and freely roaming dogs aren’t the same laws.

If you went to someone else’s private property and photographed their pets then it could be questionable. But dogs are running in a public place such as parking lot or what not. It’s public place. Permission to take pics of dogs running on a public parking lot is not required
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Old Jan 13, 2019, 04:55 PM
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Dogs that are not on a leash and randomly run around could be photographed as it’s not your job determining who dogs belong to. If a dog is ona leash and being held by an owner then it’s a different story.

Also the only time you really cannot photograph a pet is if you intend to make money out of it. Such as sell pictures on the Internet. Laws about photographing someone else’s children and freely roaming dogs aren’t the same laws.

If you went to someone else’s private property and photographed their pets then it could be questionable. But dogs are running in a public place such as parking lot or what not. It’s public place. Permission to take pics of dogs running on a public parking lot is not required
An apartment parking lot is private property, not public.
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Old Jan 13, 2019, 05:21 PM
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An apartment parking lot is private property, not public.
Yeah makes sense you are right but it’s private property of rental company. it is not private property of whose dogs are running there. You aren’t trespassing. If it was somebody’s private yard and her dogs were there and you trespassed taking pics of them, then it could be questionable.
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Oh I don’t think you are at fault. Not at all. I am just saying that you should avoid personal discussions re where you go and what you do. I had some awful neighbors in my life. I once had neighbors that I had to call police on daily. So I know about terrible dangerous neighbors. I am just saying don’t engage in any conversations and share nothing with them, for your own protection. Less they know safer you are.
What I am "trying" to say though is that since we are supposed to resolve our problems amongst one another (or make a true attempt at doing so) and she did not seem to believe I could not take the dogs with me, the only way to provide a satisfactory explanation was to tell the truth of where we were going and why. I honestly feel no shame that I receive disability but it frustrates me when people come off as if my life is a life of luxury because "I don't have to WORK for a living". Or when I am blamed for things I do not do and then told to make sure whoever is doing it stops doing it. That's all. ❤
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Old Jan 13, 2019, 06:07 PM
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Yeah makes sense you are right but it’s private property of rental company. it is not private property of whose dogs are running there. You aren’t trespassing. If it was somebody’s private yard and her dogs were there and you trespassed taking pics of them, then it could be questionable.
Yes but the person who owns the dogs lives here too - so technically has the same rights to the property as me. Therefore, unless the landlady tells me to go over the other tenant's head and take pictures with or without the tenant's permission (and I have documentation of such statement), it is not legal for me to do so without the tenant's permission.

Does that make sense?
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Yes but the person who owns the dogs lives here too - so technically has the same rights to the property as me. Therefore, unless the landlady tells me to go over the other tenant's head and take pictures with or without the tenant's permission (and I have documentation of such statement), it is not legal for me to do so without the tenant's permission.

Does that make sense?
There is no law that you can’t take a picture of a dog running on a parking lot not being on a leash and not being held by an owner. Ton of cats are outdoor cats and they randomly wander in neighborhoods. Are you saying it’s illegal of me to take a picture of such cat or I must first investigate who is the owner (if there is one as it could be stray) and ask a permission? There is no such law. There is none.
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What I am "trying" to say though is that since we are supposed to resolve our problems amongst one another (or make a true attempt at doing so) and she did not seem to believe I could not take the dogs with me, the only way to provide a satisfactory explanation was to tell the truth of where we were going and why. I honestly feel no shame that I receive disability but it frustrates me when people come off as if my life is a life of luxury because "I don't have to WORK for a living". Or when I am blamed for things I do not do and then told to make sure whoever is doing it stops doing it. That's all. ❤
I understand that you are honestly trying to resolve it and there is zero shame in being on disability or going to soup kitchen. I am just saying neighbors have no business to know where you are going and why. You need to provide zero explanations where you are going and why you aren’t taking dogs with you. It’s not her business. Yes it’s exhausting to listen dogs barking regardless if it’s day or night but that’s the price people pay for living in apartments. She could look for apartment where pets aren’t allowed. But it’s not her business where you go and why
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She has dogs too so that would not be an option for her. But the point is - I had to have the conversation with her to comply with the landlady's rules.
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Old Jan 13, 2019, 07:25 PM
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She has dogs too so that would not be an option for her. But the point is - I had to have the conversation with her to comply with the landlady's rules.
I understand. You had a conversation and it turned out nasty. Next step go through other channels/venues/legal actions etc If landlady isn’t helpful look up numbers of head management and start sending letters/calling and make management to resolve disputes etc From this point on don’t engage with her at all. Stay safe
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I understand. You had a conversation and it turned out nasty. Next step go through other channels/venues/legal actions etc If landlady isn’t helpful look up numbers of head management and start sending letters/calling and make management to resolve disputes etc From this point on don’t engage with her at all. Stay safe
I don't intend to engage her anymore but she is doing all she can to make lifd miserable at the moment and the landlady us not reachable til tomorrow so my nerves are frayed.

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Old Jan 13, 2019, 08:13 PM
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I don't intend to engage her anymore but she is doing all she can to make lifd miserable at the moment and the landlady us not reachable til tomorrow so my nerves are frayed.

Thanks for talking. ❤
Hang in there. Try not to think about her. It’s stressful for sure to deal with annoying neighbors
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I myself would install a CCTV...I did exactly that when I had an intrusive stalker. TV footage cant be manipulated, it doesn't lie. However...just be sure to disable the sound recording as it is against the law to covertly record peoples conversations, unless you believe that you will be implicated in a crime and need vocal confirmation.
Like I said elsewhere, there is nowhere to install a camera - and here even unauthorized video is not allowed .. even security cameras must have a notice on the door or something notifying of their usage ..
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Like I said elsewhere, there is nowhere to install a camera - and here even unauthorized video is not allowed .. even security cameras must have a notice on the door or something notifying of their usage ..

That is a load of B.S. And here I thought my state is full of backwards idiots lol.

Is something like ADT or Cox Homelife an option for you at least? While going that route might be more expensive, I fail to see how doing so would be illegal.

Otherwise, the only other options I can thing of is to either stand your ground and fight them, using force if necessary, or getting out of those apartments. Neither your neighbor nor the landlord will clearly listen to reason anyways.

I can't think of anything else without encouraging you to break the law because my solution would probably be illegal or questionable at best if I were in your position.
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That is a load of B.S. And here I thought my state is full of backwards idiots lol.

Is something like ADT or Cox Homelife an option for you at least? While going that route might be more expensive, I fail to see how doing so would be illegal.

Otherwise, the only other options I can thing of is to either stand your ground and fight them, using force if necessary, or getting out of those apartments. Neither your neighbor nor the landlord will clearly listen to reason anyways.

I can't think of anything else without encouraging you to break the law because my solution would probably be illegal or questionable at best if I were in your position.
Well if we break lease we will owe over $2000 bc it is a year contract. We have not yet spoken to landlady, doing that later today when her office opens. Not sure what Cox Homelife or ADT are so will need to look them up to answer you on that ❤. Trust me though .. neither me nor my husband are afraid of standing our ground, we have had to do it before .. it's just the fact it is affecting my health that really bothers me.
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