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I told a friend (when she was doing her usual thing of looking for reassurance) that i cant give her a lot of reassurance cause im trying to stabilise my own mental health
Instead of giving me time and space to stabilise, which is what i need, shes started asking for further reassurances etc I have to put my own oxygen mask/lifejacket/lifeboat/whatever on first before i can help her again with hers (metaphorically speaking) Am i being unreasonable? |
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#2
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No, you are not being unreasonable, far from it, but it would calm your friend down if you tell her that after you take time to stabilize, you will be there again to provide her with reassurance she needs.
Delayed gratification.
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Bipolar I w/psychotic features Last inpatient stay in 2018 Lybalvi 10 mg Naltrexone 75 mg Gabapentin 1500 mg+Vitamin B-complex (against extrapyramidal side effects) Long-term side effects from medications, some of them discontinued: - Hypothyroidism - Obesity BMI ~ 38 |
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#3
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You are not being unreasonable. But your friend is. Tell her you are not going to read anymore emails from her for a month while you stabilize. Or two weeks if a month is too long. Then follow though with that. Delete all her emails to you without reading them. She can not emotionally manipulate you that way and you are practicing good boundaries.
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Nammu …Beyond a wholesome discipline, be gentle with yourself. You are a child of the universe no less than the trees and the stars; you have a right to be here. …... Desiderata Max Ehrmann |
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I did not know the communications occur over email. I would not delete email as this requires action on your part and you will be constantly reminded about her, detracting from your effort and focus on stability, but I like the idea of not reading her emails. So I would insert a filter to auto-archive the emails from her and then when you are ready to read them again, do so and delete the filter so that they come to your primary inbox from that point on.
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Bipolar I w/psychotic features Last inpatient stay in 2018 Lybalvi 10 mg Naltrexone 75 mg Gabapentin 1500 mg+Vitamin B-complex (against extrapyramidal side effects) Long-term side effects from medications, some of them discontinued: - Hypothyroidism - Obesity BMI ~ 38 |
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I had no idea you could use filters that way. Yes do that.
Angels friend often threatened self harm if angel said she’d stop reading her emails that’s why I suggested not reading them and deleting them. Angel needs to care for herself first.
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Nammu …Beyond a wholesome discipline, be gentle with yourself. You are a child of the universe no less than the trees and the stars; you have a right to be here. …... Desiderata Max Ehrmann |
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and suicide, tbh
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#7
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Not at all. It’s perfectly reasonable to create healthy boundaries. You have to take care of yourself. And often that means limiting contact and conversations.
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In Gmail, I can show with screenshots how to create an autoarchiving filter. You can even put the emails in a special place to corral for easy retrieval later on.
@felineangel, how have you deflected threats of suicide in the past? Have you ever told your friend to call her doctor, go to psych er, or call a hotline?
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Bipolar I w/psychotic features Last inpatient stay in 2018 Lybalvi 10 mg Naltrexone 75 mg Gabapentin 1500 mg+Vitamin B-complex (against extrapyramidal side effects) Long-term side effects from medications, some of them discontinued: - Hypothyroidism - Obesity BMI ~ 38 |
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She stopped making those threats luckily cause it was a major trigger to me, the ex of mine used to make threats of suicide if i didnt do what he wanted when he wanted, once friend understood that being a major trigger she stopped those threats Ex would literally say how he was going to do a suicide - graphically - so every threat that friend made would bring his threats back and i would end up self harming |
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#10
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Looks like she's in "flood felineangel" mode .....
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Oh, not again!
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Bipolar I w/psychotic features Last inpatient stay in 2018 Lybalvi 10 mg Naltrexone 75 mg Gabapentin 1500 mg+Vitamin B-complex (against extrapyramidal side effects) Long-term side effects from medications, some of them discontinued: - Hypothyroidism - Obesity BMI ~ 38 |
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She's saying she's going to start being more selfish (I hope she just means in real life and not emails) not sure how to respond to that (not gone through everything, seen that without even opening anything)
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#13
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wish me luck, the number of emails in my inbox is bothering me, going to try going through everything, wish me luck ........
was it wrong of me to tell her that greif may never stop flaring up? she was talking about someone else in her life, she's acting as though she really feels his greif should work by her timetable i mean, every March the greif for my angel Ebony still flares up, it'll be 6 years this March Every single March I get a greif flare up and end up self harming again cause I never saved her ![]() had my angel Ebony lived, she would of been 13, if the rescue had her age correct ![]() Will always miss my sweetpea ![]() ![]() :brokenheart image thing goes here : Last edited by felineangel; Jan 06, 2024 at 06:22 PM. |
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#14
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I’m so sorry to hear that! Tell her to please call a suicide hotline.
Is she seeing a therapist? If not, then please encourage her to see one. Did you make it clear that you can’t help her at the moment because you’re struggling too? Did you let her know that you’ll be there for her when you’re feeling better? Can she talk to someone else? |
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As for grief flaring up... that's what grief does. Something will happen a person sees something, a person hears something that brings it all crashing back. My best friend of 50 years died a year and a half ago, there are still times I want to share something with her, recommend a book. Then I remember I can't and the grief bites me in the backside. I'm going to say something harsh about your friend. She is selfish. She wants to control how/when your other friend grieves to meet her needs. You told her you need to take a break and she floods your mailbox. Again, she is putting herself ahead of you. She's trying to take a wrecking ball to the boundary you set. For your own sake, stop reading her e-mails, don't take her calls. If she gets to you somehow and says she's going to kill herself tell her to call 911, her therapist or her pdoc. It is NOT your responsibility to keep her safe. Don't let her suck you in to caretaking. |
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#17
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She is not a friend. This is selfish and manipulative. You have your boundaries and she is outright violating them. I would go no contact with them and if they threaten to hurt themselves/kill themselves tell them to call 911 or equivalent and if she doesn't you will.
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#18
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#19
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greif and trauma is kicking my arse tonight
![]() just had to tell friend i cannot be there for her just now she put too much pressure on me tonight and i ended up cutting both legs a lot cause i was already struggling due to the snow having made itself at home here and friend decided to have yet another "I need a lot of reassurance" times i don't mind being there for her - but I cannot always be stable enough, like today one cut i not sure about, its one that was healing that i went over again cause i need it to hurt cause it physically hurting stops my heart from hurting just for a bit |
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Have you tried DBT? I am just asking because what you are describing is a typical borderline way of dealing with internal pain and DBT skills training offers much more constructive approaches.
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Bipolar I w/psychotic features Last inpatient stay in 2018 Lybalvi 10 mg Naltrexone 75 mg Gabapentin 1500 mg+Vitamin B-complex (against extrapyramidal side effects) Long-term side effects from medications, some of them discontinued: - Hypothyroidism - Obesity BMI ~ 38 |
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#21
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She just flooded me again ..... |
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Hi felineangel,
I don’t know your history with this friend. Is she someone you met online? This person is being an emotional vampire. They are flooding you and draining you with their emotional neediness. They don’t respect your boundaries when you ask them to give you some time to respond. This is very abusive behavior. Is this person also asking you for money? They are doing very predatory behavior on you, and you are a very kind person who is having difficulty asserting your boundaries. Many other people would block this person and protect themselves. This situation is causing you to SH.
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#23
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She's never asked me for money
Trying to type round Tigger |
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#24
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DBT is not Cbt you should be proactive and look for places that offer DBT long term group therapy. It is the gold standard for borderline.
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Nammu …Beyond a wholesome discipline, be gentle with yourself. You are a child of the universe no less than the trees and the stars; you have a right to be here. …... Desiderata Max Ehrmann |
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#25
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It's not about asking for money, your iwn time & stress causing you to SH are just as valuable as money to protect. You need to put priority on protecting yourself. What she chooses to do to herself is her responsibility, not yours
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