[nowheretorun]

may God give peace to your loving souls..

[HALLIEBETH87]

nice

[nowheretorun]

You are a much stronger/better person than me. I wouldn't have wasted my breath.

Peace

[nowheretorun]

it has not been easy riptide.. i am tested everyday, and thank you... i hope that if they heal, more of us could..

may they all find peace

[KathyM]

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i hope that if they heal, more of us could..

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Interesting view - I agree.

I was reminded the other day of something my ex mother-in-law would say when people tried to hurt her with racial slurs and ignorance. She'd respond with, "Bless their hearts."

[nowheretorun]

(((KathyM ))))))

still praying God....

thank you...

[TaintedGoth1]

Somebody must've blessed one of my abusers...because I feel like forgiving them for how they wronged me....

So blessings to each and every one of them...

[nowheretorun]

hi TG1

the beauty of healing for me is, whether it is myself or the other who grows and learns, words like 'abuser' can transform and become 'friend' .. that is a feeling which is indescribable...

i am sending prayers that your abusers become at the least, old acquaintances....

[mishyb1979]

i have no idea how u could feel for these monsters but its ur life and everyone have there own fews. For me i could never ever forgive the monster i hope he is rotting in hell where he should be and im left here with a broken shell of a soul. Id love to crumble his grave like he has done to my life.

[nowheretorun]

hi mishy : )

i guess i dont know you well enough to give you the big hug im naturally inclined to whenever someone opens up their heart so much that they let themselves feel pain for whatever period of time it is they are able to endure it...

i know thats what happened here when you read and replied to my post...

i understand how you must feel and i want to tell you i dont blame you and also that changing that is something only you can decide for yourself to do..

for me, i had to view it in the best way i could think of... if i wanted love and healing for myself, to make the cirlce complete, i have to want that for even those i have the most difficulty with... that is the only way i can see the healing go full circle.. in my view, as i understand it now, that is the best way possible for this to come out..

i hope you understand and i hope my post does not offend

[mishyb1979]

for YOU xx

[nowheretorun]

thank you very much mishyb

[TaintedGoth1]

Yes they've hurt us...but love makes the world go round. And maybe it's this that will heal them as well as us in the long run.

[nowheretorun]

lets hope so TG1

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Yes they've hurt us...but love makes the world go round. And maybe it's this that will heal them as well as us in the long run.

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I think I like that ((tainted goth)))))))
Ok .........a prayer for mine too
please............
that was very hard for me to say........
the sheep does not like to admit that happened......
ty hope it was ok to post this
muffy

[(JD)]

to all suffering.

I edited the subject line as I think it was triggering (the word abusers??) hope it's ok.

(((muffy))) I think that's very healing of you.

[Fuzzybear]

((((((((((((( muffy )))))))))))))

[nowheretorun]

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Yes they've hurt us...but love makes the world go round. And maybe it's this that will heal them as well as us in the long run.

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I think I like that ((tainted goth)))))))
Ok .........a prayer for mine too
please............
that was very hard for me to say........
the sheep does not like to admit that happened......
ty hope it was ok to post this
muffy

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(((muffy)))) i always do want to hear your thoughts.. i hope it becomes easier for you to say 'about that' .. it isnt right that any of us suffer in this chain way it seems to happen... when i think about it, it makes me feel that human existence is just one big long chain of suffering going back to the first humans and growing with time...

i dont want to view life that way.. that makes me very sad... it seems so easy to change, if people would just care....

i pray that happens for you and all of us somehow.. that is like asking for a miracle i know, but, i spose thats the beautiful and great things about prayers... you get to ask for anything you want.... maybe God will not know thats what we want if we dont tell him? i spose he does, but it helps me putting it to words sometimes and i'm glad we can share in our hope...

so God? please help my friend muffy and the others here.... thank you for listening...

Sky, no offense intended sincerely, but i really think that muffy was talking about her abusers in the thread... sorry if it is abusing or triggering to use the word abusers when praying, im sure we dont mean to offend... i guess i should have added a trigger to the OP but, that somehow seemed to misdirect the intent of the thread... it was intended to convey hope ..

[(JD)]

Please, you have misread me.
And I know you will continue to forgive me for the edit of the subject line.
It does not trigger me, but others reading over the site.
I agree, and do not really want to see trigger icons (needed or otherwise) in this forum if I can help it.
I think it's very healing of you muffy to admit ...and to pray for them.
(((nwtr)))

[nowheretorun]

i am so sorry that i didnt validate what you said previously in a better way Sky... of course we are very concerned for all here... it is kind of you to consider those who might be trigged... we have no intention of causing more harm with these prayers...

you did pray for (((all suffering)))) and that really does matter to us all... and i feel way too glorified by your request for forgiveness Sky.. i am not God...

we each have to deal with our own set of emotions... imo, it is out of line for me to forgive you for doing what you believe is a good act... in essence, i know we are each saying the same thing... that healing for all is our common goal....

forgiveness (for the abusers) is something i had considered and i'm still thinking that part of this over....

sometimes, (not talking about you) when forgiveness is offered, some may see that as acceptance of the behaviors which are forgiven.. praying for and forgiving to me are two separate steps in the same process...

forgiveness for abuse can be given over and over and over, but, if the behavior doesnt change, the harm continues.... somehow, it needs to end for all to heal...

in forgiving, i will do so internally, and i will pray for patience as i wait for those who harm to grow..

as always, best wishes for you Sky and thank you for all you do as you try to help us with this...

[(JD)]

You are most kind.

[nowheretorun]

we are doing this together Sky.. thank you for your kindness also and God Bless always....

[KathyM]

((NWTR))

I don't see how it's possible for any person to forgive if the abuse is still occurring. It's like expecting to heal from surgery while you're still in the operating room.

I think in order to truly forgive, a person would have to set up safeguards to make sure the abuse never happens again. Only then can you start the process of forgiveness and healing.

My mother was in a coma for several weeks after a suicide attempt when I was 17. By that time, I thought I hated the woman. But when the doctors told us she would most likely die, I realized somewhere deep down I loved her.

I prayed hard for God to spare my mother. I vowed to forgive her for her abuse and treat her kindly, regardless of what she threw at me. I did a good job too, but it wasn't sincere. I had to build emotional walls of protection to keep her from getting to me and to keep my own emotions in check when around her.

It wasn't until after she was gone that I could find the strength to sincerely forgive her. I was able to tear down the walls because I knew it would never happen again.

If you have to build walls, just make sure you leave enough window space to allow good people into your life. It helps to keep you from falling into the same harmful behavior.

I still like your idea of praying for them. I'll pray for them too.

If you think you're strong enough to forgive without any walls, I challenge you to prove me wrong.