Roll Call 20

Hi sunshine maybe you could get someone to put a child safety thing on the sites that limits the time you spend on them and then tell them not to tell you the password to change it? I think those kind of things exist anyway. Sorry your struggling with obsessing over it

That's a good idea. Thank you. I'm not very technical so I'll ask my son how to do it. I think it can be done. I'm on a kindle.

I've got a psych appt on monday an I'm worried that they will section me. When I went to the gp a week ago he rang someone and said I need sectioning but I flipped so he hung up. Don't want to go feels like a trap.

No worries hope your son can work out how to, I'd have no idea I'm a bit useless hah.

I hope you dont feel weird sunshine. I can empathize with your situation, for sure. I just didnt think i had a helpful suggestion. I like justmeandmyhead's suggestion.

You're not useless. You helped me didn't u. And I'm hard to help, lol.

Thanks I'm glad it helped

And junkdna I totally empathize with what happened to u and the therapist that u got in that relationship with. I had ppl that had power over me trying to sleep with me, from this organization. I didn't do it and then they made my life hell.

I'm really sorry that happened to u. I have major trust issues now. It sounds like ur coping well.

Thank you for the hug sometimes. I've been wanting to ask u what exactly do aps do? And why are some sedating like seroquel and zyprexa and some are more uppy, lol like latuda. And did u gain weight on risperdal? It sucks bc risperdal works the best for me but then I'm outrageously hungry. And what do you know about metformin?

I feel like I scared everyone away. Do u guys think that I don't belong on this forum. I like this one the best. The bp forum isn't for me and the ptsd forum barely has ppl on it. Idk I think I need a good cry.

I think you belong here I'm just watching a movie so I'm in and out...

Ok so here is the deal modern APs are considered dirty drugs which means they bind to a lot of stuff it's roughly twenty different receptors. The really important one in terms of blocking hallucinations is the d2 dopamine receptor...this not only blocks dopamine activity but it also prevents any dopamine related decrease in the glutamate receptor/ion channel NMDA....both of these paths are involved in hallucination and it's sort of a circular loop because NMDA can feed back to induce dopamine secretion. That's the key part. The modern drugs also have some activity on serotonin which is supposed to mitigate some of the extrapyrimidal side effects or EPS and potentially alter mood as well since these are the targets of antidepressants. Finally another key factor in both weight gain and sleepiness is how much they bind to the histamine receptor. All of the antipsychotics are derived from antihistamines....so it's kinda like taking Benadryl which is often used as a sleep aid. Basically all the binding intensities for these different receptors vary among the different APs and a good pdoc can prescribe you a pill that's different than what your on based on your complaint about the first one.

Now onto metformin...it's considered helpful for weight loss even with APs it's often called excercise in a bottle. What it does is activate a protein called AMPK in the periphery....AMPK is a cellular energy sensor. Ironically AMPK in the brain and in the periphery act different. When AMPK gets phosphorylated in the brain it actually makes you want to eat because it registers as low energy but it's he opposite in the skeletal muscles....it helps melt away stored energy like fat. APs the ones with weight gain actually activate AMPK in the brain which makes you want to eat but metformin does activate in the brain only skeletal muscles...it's does have side effects like diarrhea in some people so it may or may not be worth it but a recent study suggested people lost 6kg which is what 12 pounds?

Anyway yes I gained weight on risperidone. 10 pounds...that was an awful med but it stabilized me then I switched to abilify to reverse the prolactin effects...but yeah risperidone I once ate a cupcake only to realize it was stale...then even knowing it was stale I ate a second one...why? Basically my brain truly felt I was starving...

You didn't scare me away. I think you belong here just fine.

Has anyone here been on a depot? Wondering what it's like cos they want to put me on one

im on a depot. risperidone. it hurts a lot because its like sand going into ur muscle. but its the only thing that got the voices to go away for me. i get 25mg every friday.

i slept all day and i just took my night meds so im going back to sleep. feels depressing but its my fault for staying up so late last night. i felt sick after a while and went to bed at 6am. maybe tomorrow will be better

Thanks junkdna. Thought it would hurt heard it's like thick oil stuff. Are the side effects same or worse than tablets do you reckon?

sunshine....you belong....D.

im here. i kinda had a good day. visited my dad on his lunch break. visited my neighbors. no depression. had some voices that scared me though. and actually a lot of paranoia since there was a police driving on my tail on tha way home from visiting my dad. ON MY TAIL. of my car i mean. i thought maybe he was gonna stop me for a mental health warrant because i had a doctor tell me they were gonna put one out for me once but i think that was a threat since i had dropped out of their outpatient program when i wasnt doing well.

anyway. its been a good day so far. im hoping the voices subside and the paranoia subsides a bit. it helped to see my dad i love him so much i worry about him a lot.

i was on a depot of haldol. 100mg every 3 weeks but i got off of it and i think its the best choice i ever made to get off. they have too much control over you when you get depots.

Yeah it feels like they're trying to control me as much as possible. Try to drug me up as much as they can. Not happening.
Thanks newtus glad youv had an okay day btw you seem to have a good relationship with your dad

Random cool thing...
http://i.imgur.com/qQlVhJa.jpg
Apparently they are going to light this on fire...kind of makes me want to visit Norway.

That looks like down thing from lord of the rings Sometimes. Very cool

i do have a great relationship with him.

but yea the psych nurse yelled at me once or twice for refusing my meds and was like "we dont force people to take their meds" but was saying basically she wish she could. then she went and told the receptionist and my therapist and doctor that i refused the depot. and went on to critisize me about it. the first time i refused it they UPPED the dosage from 75mg to 100mg JUST BECAUSE i refused it. think about that. they were chemically restraining me because i refused it ONE TIME. so i changed doctors and now i have control over my meds. i can put them in my own mouth now.

Wow that's scary. Like a chemical straight jacket. I choose not to take them and they don't like it.