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Old Sep 06, 2014, 11:30 AM
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It depends on where you are. In my area they're pretty cheap, about $5.00 a pack. But downtown they're like $10.00 a pack, ridiculous!
It doesn't really vary here, there's a lot of tax on them so they're all pretty much the same. If I found them for that price I'd be stocking up something fierce!

I gave up for about 3/4 years, then after my break last year I went back on them. Ambulance man was with me outside the psych ward and said "you won't be able to smoke in here, need a cigarette?'' and I was like, "yes, yes I would"... coughed my lungs up after not smoking for years but at the time it was worth it. A Year later and I'm back on them.

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this is why i never tell them i have guns in the house. its none of their buisness taking guns off my family because of me.

i just need to know not to use them. its hhard not to but hey i try
Yeah I was young at the time, didn't know better. He got it back after about a year, haven't mentioned it since!

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Old Sep 06, 2014, 11:32 AM
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The gun would have been helpful, doesn't matter now though.
Going around in circles here probably but, how would it have been helpful?
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Old Sep 06, 2014, 11:32 AM
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this is why i never tell them i have guns in the house. its none of their buisness taking guns off my family because of me.

i just need to know not to use them. its hhard not to but hey i try
I'm sure they would just make him buy a gun safe not take them away...this is Texas we're talking about after all.....I still think he should lock them up...I think he would if he knew how you thought about them....
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Old Sep 06, 2014, 12:13 PM
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Chicken - because then the stalkers on the street wouldn't mess with me.

Sure it's fine for them to use weapons on me though.
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Old Sep 06, 2014, 12:17 PM
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Chicken - because then the stalkers on the street wouldn't mess with me.

Sure it's fine for them to use weapons on me though.
They'd just find a new way to harass you and probably get you arrested or sectioned. Same with carrying a knife, same outcome.

It's a ****** situation to be in, sure I know what it's like to an extent. I know though, that carrying a weapon will just give them what they want and land me in more trouble.

I hope you find a way through it, I really do.
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Old Sep 06, 2014, 01:05 PM
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KUREHA you're not going to get a gun, so I wouldn't worry about any risk.

English gun laws are pretty much the same as here, unless you have farmers land to shoot on, are registered with a gun club or have a hunting license you're not going to get a license.
I just remembered - England is much more restrictive regarding guns. And smartly so, in my opinion. Here, pretty much anyone can get a gun. I don't think English police even carry guns?
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Old Sep 06, 2014, 01:06 PM
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Thanks, they just give me no peace.

The police say it's ok for them to do whatever they want to me, but its not ok for me to do anything, but they understand that I carry a knife for protection.
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Old Sep 06, 2014, 01:08 PM
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Crescent - They carry tasers instead of guns.
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Old Sep 06, 2014, 01:09 PM
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The gun would have been helpful, doesn't matter now though.

Newtus - I am taking my meds, I only missed this week. My doctor doesn't give me the chance to stop taking it.
I discharged myself from the CMHT, I don't if that worked though, because its part of my CTO conditions.
I'm wondering if what you're doing right now (like discharging yourself from the CMHT and refusing to take your last meds) is going to cause them all to have raised concerns about you - pay closer attention to you - consider you to be more of a threat. I'm guessing you'll get your recall soon
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Old Sep 06, 2014, 01:13 PM
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I'm wondering if what you're doing right now (like discharging yourself from the CMHT and refusing to take your last meds) is going to cause them all to have raised concerns about you - pay closer attention to you - consider you to be more of a threat. I'm guessing you'll get your recall soon
I agree...
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Old Sep 06, 2014, 01:19 PM
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Crescent - They carry tasers instead of guns.
And I'll bet the tasers are fairly recent. Just think, if the police guy only had a taser, maybe Michael Brown wouldn't have been killed a couple of weeks ago, and a town wouldn't have suffered a terrible riot. Same with Trayvon Martin, and tons of others.

I'm through and through American, but I hate guns. I don't think our forefathers had any intent for the 2nd Amendment to be used to support what it's now used to support. Oh well.. this is not a political forum
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Very glad that today is mostly stress free. I was able to actually do something productive.

Oh and btw i made a midi sequence which I uploaded here Online Sequencer - U.N._Owen_Was_Her I made it when I was sick.
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Old Sep 06, 2014, 02:06 PM
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Well I could call on Monday to see if they'll still see me.

Yeah the recall probably won't be too long, as soon as they find a bed. Then again my nurse said a lot of people had to see the doctor because they were really sick - maybe they are all in the hospital.
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Old Sep 06, 2014, 02:37 PM
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If you call and tell them you'd like to get your injection, I think that will make you look good to them. And I think it'll be much easier on you than being recalled and taken to the hospital
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I just remembered - England is much more restrictive regarding guns. And smartly so, in my opinion. Here, pretty much anyone can get a gun. I don't think English police even carry guns?
They do have armed police but they're a specialist unit (highly trained) that are only called out under extreme circumstances. Same here in Ireland. It's pretty good the laws are the way they are and the statistics of gun crime and deaths prove that.
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Old Sep 06, 2014, 02:54 PM
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police have guns everywhere in the usa
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Old Sep 06, 2014, 03:03 PM
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They have to because all the criminals have guns.
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Old Sep 06, 2014, 03:07 PM
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And that's exactly why we all need guns here...I still remember that Simpsons episode where we burn all the guns and the aliens take over until someone grabs a pointy stick. I'm not worried about it so long as enough normal people have guns I don't need them but I don't want the government to be the only one with power...I actually can't have a gun right now and really never wanted one but I vote against any gun restrictions so that militia can be formed if necessary.....
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Old Sep 06, 2014, 03:18 PM
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They do have armed police but they're a specialist unit (highly trained) that are only called out under extreme circumstances. Same here in Ireland. It's pretty good the laws are the way they are and the statistics of gun crime and deaths prove that.
You are absolutely right. The statistics are proof-positive,
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Old Sep 06, 2014, 03:24 PM
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I was in line at McDonalds the other day, and right in front of me was a police officer, gun at his hip. With our laws that allow everyone else to have guns, the police *have* to have them. I just wish our country would get rid of the wholesale "right" to have guns. Guess there's no going backwards tho. unfortunately. It's like the mindset here is that having the 'right' to have a gun means we can protect ourselves. But in countries like England, the ordinary citizen has no need for a gun, because gun ownership is strictly regulated.. and even police there don't have to have guns. Imagine that. They apparently only use guns for highly trained forces that are used in special circumstances. That all just sounds so good to me. Tasers don't generally kill people.
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Old Sep 06, 2014, 03:41 PM
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And that's exactly why we all need guns here...I still remember that Simpsons episode where we burn all the guns and the aliens take over until someone grabs a pointy stick. I'm not worried about it so long as enough normal people have guns I don't need them but I don't want the government to be the only one with power...I actually can't have a gun right now and really never wanted one but I vote against any gun restrictions so that militia can be formed if necessary.....
Well if that were the case why do the statistics show a nice normal gun:death ratio in countries that have armed police, like the UK and Ireland.

If you attack an armed Gardai here with a knife, you'll be shot. You don't need a gun. But yet you don't see really high rates (if any) of people being shot by Gardai.

Maybe it's culture but gun restrictions like we have here are the way to go. No one can really hold a valid argument to the opposite.

I hope this makes sense, finding it hard to make sense right now.
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Old Sep 06, 2014, 03:52 PM
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not all the criminals have guns thats not true. some criminals have guns.
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Old Sep 06, 2014, 03:55 PM
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And that's exactly why we all need guns here...I still remember that Simpsons episode where we burn all the guns and the aliens take over until someone grabs a pointy stick. I'm not worried about it so long as enough normal people have guns I don't need them but I don't want the government to be the only one with power...I actually can't have a gun right now and really never wanted one but I vote against any gun restrictions so that militia can be formed if necessary.....
The ability to form a militia was important in the early days of our country. But I just cannot imagine our country becoming a "police state" in any way at this time. Our government's power is in the United States of America being a world-class international power. Our international military power and ability to bring evil governments to their knees makes any kind of potential for national "police state" government seem highly unlikely. At least to me.
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Old Sep 06, 2014, 04:06 PM
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Well if that were the case why do the statistics show a nice normal gun:death ratio in countries that have armed police, like the UK and Ireland.

If you attack an armed Gardai here with a knife, you'll be shot. You don't need a gun. But yet you don't see really high rates (if any) of people being shot by Gardai.

Maybe it's culture but gun restrictions like we have here are the way to go. No one can really hold a valid argument to the opposite.

I hope this makes sense, finding it hard to make sense right now.
Yeah when I went over to Scotland there was this huge fear of knife violence.....we don't have that here so much....my point was I don't want to be ruled by a queen (and yes I know you have parliament now but still) thus guns for all to prevent that....that is in fact how we became independent in the first place, had we not had guns for hunting we would still be having high tea and paying exorbitant taxes on it. I have no doubt the current us gov will eventually be so overrun by corporations we will have to forcibly overthrow it and start again....hopefully not in my lifetime, unfortunately to prevent that we need to keep the guns around and there are consequences for that. If there are no guns getting people to rebel is much harder although. I'm talking about the future and large scale civil war not day to day stuff....I wouldn't wave a gun anywhere near a cop or soldier unless I was part of militia but they need to have the guns in the first place. Problem is if we get rid of the guns all we have are knives vs assault rifles and helicopters/bombs etc....that's not going to work. To me this is a key element of the constitution.

Isn't Ireland or at least part of it still trying to be free from England's rule? We did that like 200 years ago thanks to guns...

So here is my thing, short term good, no guns for anyone but military, long term good guns for all. I'm in it for the long term outcome.
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Crescent - I really can't get the injection this time.
It's too many now and being weak and getting it would just tell them they can do whatever they want.
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