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Old Sep 03, 2014, 05:10 PM
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the meds dont help. i did fine for a WHOLE month without taking them. what i mean by dont help tho is that even tho i hear things and see things and get paranoid they dont take that away.
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Old Sep 03, 2014, 05:11 PM
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That's not true. When you're on your meds you're so much calmer, you make more sense, and your symptoms aren't nearly as debilitating.
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Old Sep 03, 2014, 05:17 PM
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the meds dont help. i did fine for a WHOLE month without taking them. what i mean by dont help tho is that even tho i hear things and see things and get paranoid they dont take that away.
What are the disadvantages of taking meds? Mine were feeling fuzzy, drowsy and gaining weight but I've found a med (clopixol) that doesn't affect me like that at all.

Maybe you just haven't found the right med (you may have been on many but there are a whole lot of meds out there).
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That's not true. When you're on your meds you're so much calmer, you make more sense, and your symptoms aren't nearly as debilitating.
I agree. Even though you still hear/see things and get paranoid, you are less distressed by it on meds. You don't post on here in a panic, upset by it, all the time. Your posts make more sense. You don't feel the need to act on your impulsive thoughts, whether that's self harm/suicide or driving with the door open or running outside naked etc.

If you really don't want to take meds, then you need to find a way to control yourself and your reactions to those things, so you don't get so distressed by your thoughts and hallucinations; so you don't do impulsive, dangerous things like OD on your Xanax with alcohol and end up in the hospital.

Your new T should help you learn distress tolerance and behavioural control. If not, find another. If you truly don't want meds, then you have to work out how you can stop yourself from ending up in the hospital. Because otherwise you will end up on the US version of a CTO. They won't let you remain unmedicated if you attempt sui or behave inappropriately and draw attention to yourself.

Personally I think you need the meds until you learn these skills and have practised them enough, but at the end of the day, it's up to you. But I truly believe that the next time you end up on forced injections, you won't be so lucky to get off them as you were last time

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Old Sep 03, 2014, 06:31 PM
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the meds dont help. i did fine for a WHOLE month without taking them. what i mean by dont help tho is that even tho i hear things and see things and get paranoid they dont take that away.
I did fine without them for 9 months but that doesn't mean I don't need them now. I just heard an electronic bird chirp... They clearly aren't blocking everything but they are keeping the delusions at bay... For you they keep the hospital away.... Good enough....
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Old Sep 03, 2014, 07:41 PM
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newtus

you said u havent taken ur meds in "2 months or more". i remember u saying recently that u were taking ur meds. here is a quote from august 14th:

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so i took all my meds yesterday. i thought about you guys.
there are more posts after that date where u mentioned u were taking ur meds.

sorry but this doesn't make sense unless you are lying about taking your meds on here or lying about not taking them.

i dont really know what's going on?
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Old Sep 03, 2014, 07:50 PM
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i took them some of the time but the rest i lied because i didnt want you guys to worry about me. majority of the time i didnt take it. i did really well in august. little to no voices or paranoid.

but what im going through now is situational depression. its based on a situation. something medicine cant help.

its mainly about my therapist. i need a grieving time for this. the rest of how im feeling idk why im feeling this way. just disturbed. i guess it has to do with my therapist
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Old Sep 03, 2014, 08:00 PM
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Newtus how about taking less of your meds instead of none and see if you can get an appointment with your doctor to see if you lower the dose.
I don't want you to end up in the hospital.
And I don't want YOU to end up in the hospital - which is what is going to happen since you didn't get your injection. I don't understand why you keep choosing to do it the hard way?
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Old Sep 03, 2014, 08:02 PM
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Newtus,

"Situational depression" doesn't exist in the way you're talking about. Normal times of feeling sad about something is one thing, but feeling "disturbed", "panicked", "like your mind is going to flip out", and other things you mentioned doesn't line up with merely feeling sad about your therapist. It doesn't add up.

Lying only hurts you in the end.
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Old Sep 03, 2014, 08:09 PM
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am i psychotic? maybe because i feel like flipping out. and i feel disturbedd and panicked.feeling paranoid.
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Old Sep 03, 2014, 08:11 PM
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Old Sep 03, 2014, 08:25 PM
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i took them some of the time but the rest i lied because i didnt want you guys to worry about me. majority of the time i didnt take it. i did really well in august. little to no voices or paranoid.

but what im going through now is situational depression. its based on a situation. something medicine cant help.

its mainly about my therapist. i need a grieving time for this. the rest of how im feeling idk why im feeling this way. just disturbed. i guess it has to do with my therapist
Situational depression is helped by meds...my bird just died and I'm happy....I'm still hallucinating which means I have something seriously wrong....still happy....why? I just hit 1 month of abilify....that's how long it takes 4-6 weeks for mood effects....it's kind of freaky actually.

If you don't start meds now it's going to be another month until you get any mood relief....it might break up the psychosis sooner but if you want your AD to work you'll need to start it now.

So in a couple weeks when you're really in pain I'm going to ask why you didn't listen to us now and tell you to go to the hospital again because that will be the only choice at that point just like meds or meds plus therapy are the only real choices now.

Also don't feel you need to lie about meds on here we want you to take them but we'll still be there for you if things crash if you don't....
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Old Sep 03, 2014, 08:29 PM
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you guys ive been off my meds for two months or more and i did extremely well for one month. theres gotta be more to this life than meds and pushing meds.
https://forums.psychcentral.com/schi...ml#post3908147

You just got out of the hospital 7-31-14 that's about a month ago....are you telling me they didn't give you meds?
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Old Sep 03, 2014, 08:30 PM
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It's kinda a mix of formality, amusement, and coldness. It feels rather twisted, but it feels good.
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Old Sep 03, 2014, 08:38 PM
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i finally gor my meds in yersterday. all of them

ill take my AD right now
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Old Sep 03, 2014, 08:39 PM
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things just dont add up with u newtus. idk. do u lie about a lot of things on here?
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Old Sep 03, 2014, 08:41 PM
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im not trying to sound confrontational. i am just wondering if you've lied about other things
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i finally gor my meds in yersterday. all of them

ill take my AD right now
In order for meds to be effective, you have to take them everyday. Skipping days will not keep you at a therapeutic level, maybe that's why your meds don't work for you.
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Old Sep 03, 2014, 08:49 PM
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i havent lied about anything other than takinng my meds
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Old Sep 03, 2014, 08:50 PM
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but i was taking them for awhile
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But really it's up to you. If you don't want to feel better, that's your choice.
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sometimesP i am glad u are feeling better. have u thought any more about getting another bird??
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Old Sep 03, 2014, 08:54 PM
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i havent lied about anything other than takinng my meds
I generally don't see you as lying but tonight it's kind of weird and I'm wondering if it's actually a symptom of a break.....I know I could lie vey easily while psychotic because I felt it was for the greater good.

Just wondering and I mean you are saying you're feeling weird etc.....you might want to consider an AP just to stop it from really getting started....
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Old Sep 03, 2014, 08:56 PM
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sometimesP i am glad u are feeling better. have u thought any more about getting another bird??
I want one but I'm taking a few short holidays soon so it's a poor time to get one plus they breed in spring and I want a baby to train in....I'm thinking I could get some fish to tide me over....it's not the same but it would be something to look at and enjoy.
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