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Old Aug 20, 2007, 06:17 PM
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<font color="#000088">No individual asks to be raped, whether they are walking around half naked or not. NO means NO,it's as simple as that. And not only men rape, women can also rape ,and they do. It's not as common but it happens. There are many reasons why a person rapes another, for example, for some it's a control issue, they enjoy having the power over the other individual. For some it's a drug or alcohol related thing, where they just lost control of themselves. Or they may have been engaged in what started out as consentual sex, and the other person changed their mind, and said STOP, and the other didn't think it was fair to got them started, and then let them down right when they were just starting to have fun, so they decide NOT to stop, and end up raping the other! That is usually called "Date Rape".Depending on the situation. For some it is a need for sex, and not being able to get it from anyone else,so they just pull someone off the street,or wherever, and take it!
There are so many different reasons that people rape that it's hard to list them all.Pornography does play a big role in a lot of these rapists out on these streets! After awhile the photo's aren't good enough, and they want more, so they go out and seek the real thing! Resulting in rape!Why Men RapeWhy Men RapeWhy Men Rape Why Men Rape
In college I did a lot of research on the long term effects of Pornography! It's sick!</font>

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Old Aug 20, 2007, 08:21 PM
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"Men" don't rape, an individual male rapes. If a guy friend of mine said some men rape because they're horny, I'd believe him since he's a guy and talks to guys. I wouldn't care though "why" the man raped a woman anymore than I'd care why someone murdered another person who had not harmed them. There's no "excuse" or explanation that will make it better/more palatable.
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I think part of the answer tends to depend on how you define 'rape' (but of course I guess I would say that). If rape is unwanted penetration then I don't really see that it has to be about control (though yeah, I've surely heard the theory that violent rape tends to be about control). For example, unwanted sexual contact can occur in a state of drunken stupor. That isn't to excuse it or anything like that but it is to say that non-consenting sex doesn't have to be about control. It could be about release / desire when the female simply isn't in the position to consent.

It is unclear to me whether women tend to sexually offend less than males (which is why there are less women than males in prison for sexual offences) or whether... The MO tends to be different. For example, it might be that women don't tend to use physical force (since they tend to be in less of a position to do so) rather they use emotional coersion. It might be that people are less willing to report emotionally coersive sexual contact than physically coersive sexual contact. It might also be that people are less willing to report unwanted sexual contact from a female because of the social stigma involved.

Male on male sexual abuse tends to be reported less than male on female sexual abuse. Why? Part of it is stigma. Part of it is confusion about having a sexual response even though the sexual contact was unwanted. Some people find it hard to reconcile the fact that they had an erection with the fact that they didn't want the sexual contact.

Female on male sexual abuse tends to be reported even less. And female on female sexual abuse even less (especially when there is an absence of physical force). Dunno if that reflects prevalence or confusion about the definition of sexual abuse and / or confusion about the lack of physical coercion...

Perhaps...
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Old Aug 20, 2007, 11:29 PM
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thought provoking post
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Old Aug 21, 2007, 08:16 AM
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Why Men Rape Why Men Rape
thanks alex for that.
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Old Aug 21, 2007, 12:32 PM
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yeah good post... imo it is rape if the person it is commited to did not clearly say yes when first asked. end of. i am thinking also i may possibly shoulnt have read this post, as every time, i just noticed; i read something about rape, i get more and more scared of older people, mainly men yes cos im a girl. but i know it is not just older ppl but yeah, mainly for me as i think rape is more common amongthose who can legally do it, so yeah...
i recently had to teach a 12 yr old girl what rape was (verbally) coz she went around saying to all her friends that they were in the rape circle of trust.... god i will get so annoyed at the person who said that word around her, she was learning all these words too fast... mind u it is good she knows what it is now.
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Old Aug 22, 2007, 12:08 AM
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I hear you Selfy. I'm having a really hard time constantly seeing this thread. I hope it wraps up soon....
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Old Aug 22, 2007, 02:37 AM
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I think the question 'why do men rape' is quite a lot like the question 'why do black people commit murder'?

which is to say that the majority of men don't rape (and the majority of black people don't commit murder)...
people other than men rape - women for example (and people other than black people committ murder)...
and people do the things they do for a variety of reasons (though there may be some interesting generalisations to be made, i'm not sure that the categories are optimal categories for scientific investigation).
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Old Aug 23, 2007, 02:20 AM
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As I stated earlier, I wasn't asking about rape in general; I was asking about things my bf and I discussed, specifically about men who rape. It wasn't gender neutral. I didn't say the majority of men raped; I was asking why men (who rape) rape.
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Old Aug 23, 2007, 02:26 AM
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some men who rape have abuse in the past others were neglected and need the power some men just feel no one should say no to them that they are above the law but then again my knowledge comes from personal experience and law and order svu so dont really know how reliable it is
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Old Aug 23, 2007, 02:41 AM
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Yes, some rapists were abuse victims or have a lack of power in life in general. They're still responsible for what they do.
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Old Aug 23, 2007, 02:45 AM
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i agree maven 100% no ones past is respomsible for the choices we make now and in the future
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people do the things they do for a variety of reasons (though there may be some interesting generalisations to be made, i'm not sure that the categories are optimal categories for scientific investigation).
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Old Aug 24, 2007, 04:21 AM
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So? You sound sympathetic to rapists (and anyone else who might have had abuse, rape and molestation, violence and other negative occurrences). Is that so? He couldn't help himself? It wasn't his fault, so punishing him is not logical. Just because someone hurt me in the past, does not give me the right to hurt someone in the future. I make that choice. How I rationalize it (I was hurt, therefore it's ok to hurt others) makes me no less responsible, and doesn't make anyone else responsible.
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Old Aug 24, 2007, 08:49 AM
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I don't know - answer WHY men do the awful things they do in general (to the ones they love) then maybe you will find the answer you seek?
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Old Aug 24, 2007, 12:26 PM
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When can we wrap this up.....haha sorry, I just get triggered seeing this subject line over and over.
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