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Old Jan 16, 2011, 05:00 PM
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Hi Michael, sorry I wasn't ignoring your question I have been working out of town this weekend and wasn't online. It's really hard to say if your wife will decide to manage her illness, but I hope she does.

I hope the therapist is helpful for you and if you're into reading, the book in my signature is excellent and it's an easy read. It's written for spouses, family members of those diagnosed. Keep us posted.
I am indeed reading, I have to much time on my hands to not and I will make your book a top priority. As for the question, well, looks like I might be done looking for answers, at least for now. I have some house keeping to do inside my own head. I doubt she will ever decide to manage her illness, that was just something I was praying for. She is a wonderful person until those nasty delusions take over and then it is every man for himself. I think I may have found a task equally as difficult as the one that I asked of her, mine is to give up and realize I am powerless. Not easy for a ripping A personality.

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Old Jan 16, 2011, 05:16 PM
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I am indeed reading, I have to much time on my hands to not and I will make your book a top priority. As for the question, well, looks like I might be done looking for answers, at least for now. I have some house keeping to do inside my own head. I doubt she will ever decide to manage her illness, that was just something I was praying for. She is a wonderful person until those nasty delusions take over and then it is every man for himself. I think I may have found a task equally as difficult as the one that I asked of her, mine is to give up and realize I am powerless. Not easy for a ripping A personality.
While you're reading, I'm finishing up a book that was an assignment from my therapist and I think would fit your situation well. It's "Forgive for Good", by Frederic Luskin, and it's based on solid scientific research. It's not a panacea or a fuzzy-wuzzy feel good book. It's a complete revelation to me of how much I didn't know.

Good luck, sending peaceful vibes with a dollop of extra wisdom your way..
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Old Jan 16, 2011, 08:38 PM
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I've been drawn to this conversation for days, wanting to comment but unsure that my words will be taken out of context.
This thread has many people concerned for this victim (I'm grateful for this community and your support of each individual and their continued healing and well being). . . though reading through it's entirety a couple of times, I'm not convinced that there might not be other underlying issues.
When you get one side of a story that person has a tendency to make sure it comes out showing them in them best light possible.That's self preservation, that's normal human behavior. That doesn't mean the story is true or not true. I have no doubt in my mind that the relationship is troubled, and most likely from a combination of their behaviors, but that's not what he asked for help with. People normally don't comment on questions that have not been asked. It is not our place really...we are not proffessionals for the most part...just people..normal people who have problems..and sometimes have the ability or desire to comfort someone else in thier problems.

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What if . . . she does not have BP as he is attempting to have you all believe. Has there been a substantiated diagnosis or could it be that it his, and only his, perspective.
Many many people post on these forums, some of their stories may be true, some of their stories may be a complete fabrication. it is nearly impossible to tell for certain. When people offer thier support for an individual they belive thier story, because if they didn't there would be no use replying.Without a sure way to tell, you have to go on...if it is true...how can i help, Instead of treating everyone with mistrust...where would we be..if no one believed anyone? We would not be here that's for sure..because this is a place of education and support.

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That possibly the viewpoint is exaggerated to suck in the audience and gain your support - many have replied with genuine concern. Just questioning?
To what end. What is the benefit of "gaining our support", i mean if he needs attention so badly that he is willing to make up a story in hopes of gaining it then maybe he really does need that support.

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What if, she's been a victim herself of a person who wants dominance and just had a mental breakdown?What support would you then offer her?
She would most likely be treated with the same concern, compassion and support as he has been treated with. She however has not made a post so offering words of advice to someone who is not reading it is a waste of time.

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-"Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored." - Aldous Huxley
The quote is excellent, however we have only received the story from one side, so since we haven't heard her side...we are not ignoring her facts because in fact without her posting her side truly does not exist to us.How can we be asked to make a comment on her side if she hasn't posted?

I just wanted to add a few things, to me...you sound like someone who has been abused yourself so i don't want you to take my post as a personal attack on you. I am not trying to attack you, i see that your new here and i just hope you can find some support here.
The only reason i singled out your post to break down is because it stood out to me...as odd.
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Old Jan 21, 2011, 11:58 AM
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I am a bit confused by some of the information you stated regarding your wife and her being bipolar. Hope you can clarify, you state that she was taking an antidepressant and Prozac? Prozac is an antidepressant so what antidepressant was she taking? You also state that she was on Abilify, it is a fact that in many individuals suffering from depression Abilify is often also prescribed. To assume that someone who is taking Abilify is bipolar would be just that an assumption. Many medications are used for other reasons. I have read other posts and it appears that lithium, Depakote and Respidal are prescribed to those whose symptoms are severe. You say your wife is delusional and becomes violent and has even been arrested for domestic violence. I am wondering why she was not prescribed one of the above mentioned medications with her symptoms being severe. Alcohol and smoking pot have been used by her, did she hide this from you or did you indulge with her? Has she ever been able to hold a job, and run a household? It sounds like she must have since you say you have only been with her for 3 years. Both her children are bipolar? Have they been properly diagnosed? Has she been properly diagnosed or is this what you think she is suffering from? You don't mention any support for yourself, do you have family to help support you? I understand you lost your first wife but what about sibling or your parents? Your posts have made me curious and have inspired me to post these questions to you.
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Old Jan 21, 2011, 08:21 PM
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I am a bit confused by some of the information you stated regarding your wife and her being bipolar. Hope you can clarify, you state that she was taking an antidepressant and Prozac? Prozac is an antidepressant so what antidepressant was she taking? You also state that she was on Abilify, it is a fact that in many individuals suffering from depression Abilify is often also prescribed. To assume that someone who is taking Abilify is bipolar would be just that an assumption. Many medications are used for other reasons. I have read other posts and it appears that lithium, Depakote and Respidal are prescribed to those whose symptoms are severe. You say your wife is delusional and becomes violent and has even been arrested for domestic violence. I am wondering why she was not prescribed one of the above mentioned medications with her symptoms being severe. Alcohol and smoking pot have been used by her, did she hide this from you or did you indulge with her? Has she ever been able to hold a job, and run a household? It sounds like she must have since you say you have only been with her for 3 years. Both her children are bipolar? Have they been properly diagnosed? Has she been properly diagnosed or is this what you think she is suffering from? You don't mention any support for yourself, do you have family to help support you? I understand you lost your first wife but what about sibling or your parents? Your posts have made me curious and have inspired me to post these questions to you.
Look, if you want to talk to me then talk to me. You know the answer to every question you posted. I don't know what your diagnosis is, all I know is that part that turns to rage is out of control. You have done everything you can to hide from it but, now its starring you in the face. Yes you did do the things you did and it was without an excuse. No self defense. The "slingshot" was great for you and I bet you got a big laugh out of it. Losing any chance of money insurance etc, was stupid and that goes right along with the behavior pattern. I do not plan to be here much longer, so if you have something to say, then say it. If you want to clear you head of guilt don't come knocking on my door. You destroyed my life and you enjoyed doing it and then you post it so everyone else can laugh. You know fully well that I suffer from lack of self worth and everytime you put me down or swing at me or scream at me you fuel that fire. Now your probably wondering what happened, that is the delusion and that is what will cost me my life.
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Old Jan 21, 2011, 08:38 PM
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I remember my delusions. But I'm not bipolar, I had psychosis.
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Old Jan 21, 2011, 08:59 PM
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I remember my delusions. But I'm not bipolar, I had psychosis.
That last post was from my wife. She knew way to many details to not be, She remembers her delusions too, what she can't do is take responsibility for them. Rather than getting treatment for the problem so we can live a healthy life she looks for an excuse for what she has done. She has blammed it on everything from childhood sexual abuse to menopause. I don't care if any of them are true. All I know is that I loved her and she filled a giant size void in my life. She gave me a feeling of self worth that I have not have for many years. I was never good enough for my father, I didn't give him a grandson and I didn't take over the family business. It was all my fault. The family hates me because I didn't let him live his dreams through me. I had my own goals and they were fueled by my lack of feelings of self worth. Those feelings are real and very powerful, as my wife could tell you because she has seen the tax returns, at one point it had me a million dollar a year job. All fueled by my lack of self esteem. Now, as a result of what swhe has done, I now feel the lowest I have ever felt and I didn't do anything. I was suppose to be promoted on January 3rd. I went into work expecting to drop off my car and gather my things to move to my new job, instead, the President of the company fired me. What she is doing now is the same thing she has always done, go to her support group, the family that will do anything to tear a person apart - read my last post titled one last post. I really was not planning on being on here now. I am so devistated that don't care if I live or die. She takes delusions and turns them into illusions. It couldn't possibly be her fault, if it were she would have to take responsibility and that is never going to happen. So you know what, I'm not going down a painful road of self destrution. Not again. Look at the post by "wade" really funny stuff to say to a man that has self esteem problems. Yes she knew about that but when ever she wanted to hurt me all she had to do was point out my failures or imply failures in a very sensitive area. It really is a sick game played by sick people. Sorry about this, I am really angry and just looking for a reason.
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Old Jan 21, 2011, 09:06 PM
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I remember my delusions. But I'm not bipolar, I had psychosis.
There are enough people on this forum with enough insight and personal knowledge that can tell her, denial is her enemy. Look everyone look, look at "wade" and someone please tell me I am wrong. I seriously doubt anyone could tell me I am wrong. I may have problems and the last thing I should have done was trust my most personal problems to someone who could not be trusted with them. I made a mistake and it killed me. But, my love for here, however messed up, was very real.
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Old Jan 22, 2011, 08:18 AM
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Look, if you want to talk to me then talk to me. You know the answer to every question you posted. I don't know what your diagnosis is, all I know is that part that turns to rage is out of control. You have done everything you can to hide from it but, now its starring you in the face. Yes you did do the things you did and it was without an excuse. No self defense. The "slingshot" was great for you and I bet you got a big laugh out of it. Losing any chance of money insurance etc, was stupid and that goes right along with the behavior pattern. I do not plan to be here much longer, so if you have something to say, then say it. If you want to clear you head of guilt don't come knocking on my door. You destroyed my life and you enjoyed doing it and then you post it so everyone else can laugh. You know fully well that I suffer from lack of self worth and everytime you put me down or swing at me or scream at me you fuel that fire. Now your probably wondering what happened, that is the delusion and that is what will cost me my life.
Dude, why are you talking to me like I am someone you know? I assure you I don't know you. I was only trying to gain more insight on your situation. I didn't think I asked anything that would cause you to lash out. I am glad that you are going to therapy. I hope it does help you on your journey to recovery.
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Old Jan 22, 2011, 07:59 PM
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Let people have their own problems. They are not yours. Myother would make e etything my fault and drag everybody down into her martyrdom. I choose to refuse to let her do that to me. You have to, too!
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