confessions of little turtle

I think it can be a both/and. Was very skeptic to medication for many years, but when I said yes to meds at last, I had to admit that they did a bit of the job, but not the whole job.

Medications may enable some people to get into the fight but true growth and healing come from within , doing the hard work everyday and wrestling those demons and haunts of things long gone that still interfere with your ability to enjoy the life you have , it's a crazy fleeting ride that could be over tommorow we never know, and rococo Ling the past the Present and your future it what really gets you through the hardest part taking the first step saying this isn't right it needs fixing and then everyday weather a lot or little doing the work, taking those extra couple of minutes here and there for oneself and your emotional growth and we'll being , I am not saying that after a time poof the world is gonna be a great place , but you will notice when you turn that corner and recover your life , there is nothing worse then waking up to the fact that you have been a lifelong victim of someone's evil heart , they may be long gone from your life but they still are raining on your parade, when you can say I don't care who you were to me , or what horrible things you did or said , I am done with you carry your own garbage, clean your own yard , that is when the miracle of living your own life begins and the Odyssey they convinced you to create and live in there absence ends , you become whole and functional , it's really amazing!

"I am done with you, carry your own garbage"

Love it

where are you coming from fuzzy

I wish I'd said that to some of the mean people who used to be in my life

How interesting. I, myself, am a 15 year old girl. I suffer from dysthymia.

We live in vastly different worlds, and I'd love to hear what you'd have to say about yours. Any stories you'd like to tell, I want to hear them.

I'd really like to be your friend!

((((((((( little turtle ))))))))))

that is so nice of you to say....you are young and I am old....maybe we can help each other...and there are other friends for you here...why do you say you have dysthymia

Little turtle,( big hug) ,your story inspired me a lot. You're such a brave man,not only have a nice heart,but strong enough to talk about your own problems. I think its so brave to confess our own problems. I'm a lady from Asia,so depressed and had suicidal thoughts,and amazingly,bumped into this site. Sorry English is not my first language,hope you can read what I wrote.

thanks ...I feel very strong about talking about our problems...it is important for us and others....lots of people don't want to hear it...but we need to tell it and recover from our traumas and losses....

my depression has a lot to do with frustration and ANGER turned inside...I am and was very neurotic...I didn't like the real life I was leading....then I broke down big time...it was like stuck in a hell hole...I was too chicken to kill myself

NOT killing yourself takes courage.

Little turtle, you are loved

i was told by my boss----doctor use more drugs and talk less....he had no idea what the diagnosis was...he was interested in getting the job done...I had to leave that job....

that was 50 years ago...now it is much worse....give a drug no matter what the cause...no matter what the diagnosis...

i cant stand all the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$ that is being made off of our suffering...it is not right...too much profit

I referenced the crap with Harvoni and I just saw the numbers from CMS for money paid and patients treated 33,028 patients were treated by just over 7200 physicians to the 12 week course of therapy costing 3.1 billion dollars . And out if the top ten drugs Abilify was number four. These of course are from the top ten list of most expensive drugs for the year 2014 as paid by the drug coverage portion of Medicare (Part D).

Misterpain

thanks misterpain....

today I am in an emotional storm....there is so much suffering out there...
I feel so sad and angry and fearful....we need to continue helping each other...

It's the modern time. Everything has to be done quickly. That is sad ...

yes....less time for you.....less talk....more drugs-----called FAST MOODS

depression is awful...we need more time...not less
we need whatever works for us....drugs/talk/healthy eating/healthy exercise/whatever

I just watched the BBC documentary THE TRUTH ABOUT DEPRESSION....we all have been so brave to struggle like we have...we need to be kind to ourselves and find something that works FOR US...

(((((((((( little turtle ))))))))))

These days Doctors play poly pharmacy, throw a bunch of drugs at a patient and see if they stick, take these pills and if you get side effects take these pills on top of the original pills, the big problem with that is who knows what med is helping because you take six different kinds, the only way to know for sure is stop the drugs one by one until the patient decompensates , we'll bravo the drug companies got a whole bunch of money for nothing and when you try to whittle that down to what works frequently the patients decompensates to the level of requiring hospitalization , then the hospital gets a chunk of money to stabilize the patient, so everyone gets the money spread around , and the patients get very little, an office visit should be as long as neccassry to understand the difficulties they are having so they can be truly addressed , but then again that's what therapists are for because most places triple book the same appoint time figuring someone will cancel or forget there appointment, this way the Doctor has a steady stream of patients and can't possibly do any therapy or real communication with the patient,thus limiting the therapeutic interaction to refilling a bunch of prescriptions and sending them on there way.

On top of that consider a majority of younger generations are missing the skills for communication because there whole social base is mostly online via the sewer system called "social media", people on the Autism spectrum frequently do not understand common cues of body language , vocal inflections , gestures and so on, so what is happening thanks to "social media" is many people are lacking those interpersonal skills from childhood thus the rate of diagnosis of autism is being driven up , consequently having a larger base of medicated people to "treat" a disorder they don't really have, making more money for big Pharma , so Doctors are in a no win situation of prescribing more drugs and increasing revenue for drug companies, and supervisors of Doctors want the assembly line of patients to keep flowing so they lean on the practioners to prescribe, prescribe and prescribe some more instead of getting to the root of the problem by talking to patients ( who are lacking social skills to begin with, and a lot of treatment should be more directed to teach those and get people to express themselves, thus the patients are happier and more full filled by there interactions ) we as a society are creating some of our most vexing problems, yet can't step back and see the bigger problem, we are doing it to ourselves and all the drugs in the PDR can't treat or cure stupidity and blindness to our own actions , if people took less drugs and learned to interact and care for each other we would have a whole lot less depression.

People need to love themselves before anyone else can , love can go along way in alleviating so much suffering , I am not saying love alone can cure depression but it can make a he'll of a dent in the problem, we are all brothers and sisters and reaching out to each other and caring is the ounce of prevention , that is worth more than a pound of cure.

Although I bad mouth "social media" and always will the one good side of technology is places like this site where we can reach out to one another, to give and receive support and understanding, to vanquish the feeling we are alone in this , or no one would understand , we here are truly the fortunate because we are not isolating ourselves from the world and becoming hermits, I am willing to bet this site had helped more people than any handfuls of pills ever will.

You are loved and respected here turtle , don't forget that , this is a place of support and common ground ,no matter what brings us here , we unite and care for ourselves and others.

Misterpain

feeling all alone is awful....but being around most people I feel lonely...
I am trying to stay away from people who take me down...
my wife and I are trying hard not to take each other down...
I am very sensitive to what others are saying to me....
this stuff is hard

I am at a very low point this morning...all the terrible things going on .....I feel very afraid and insecure...I also am feeling more humble....I hate all the suffering I see....I have such a hard time crying....and I always heard that[ the sorrow that has no vent in tears makes other organs weep]....I think I am in the process of being the REAL me...that will be good in the long run...thanks to everyone here for helping andcaring about me....thankyou thank you...

((((little turtle))))