confessions of little turtle

please be very careful about taking psych drugs....they can cause some awful things....
I have seen some awful things...please pay attention to possible side effects....
my problem now after years of anti-depressants----I cant get off my celexa

i want to come out now about what i am really thinking....
i think the psychiatry system is awful...not everyone...
i think we are being drugged for problems that shouldn't be drugged...
we are not facing what is really bothering us a lot of the time..

I agree with this - psych medications can cause some awful things

(((((((( little turtle ))))))))

(((((((( little turtle ))))))))

I have been thinking this as well

Although I'm not a psychiatrist, I have noticed this, increasingly, over the years

"I think the psychiatry system is awful... not everyone...
I think we are being drugged for problems that SHOULDN'T be drugged..

We are NOT facing what is really bothering us a lot of the time .."

(Caps are mine for emphasis)

thanks thanks thanks fuzzy....
I do not trust psychiatry any longer...
i do not trust drug companies...
I do not trust my country any longer...
I am very disappointed...
where to turn to next....I just don't know...
I tried to be able to see all sides....but the drug companies are corrupt..
part of recovery from depression is recognizing what is really going on...
I really do not like having to turn against my profession but I must now...

I am sorry that I have to say what I am disturbed about...but this is part
of my recovery....

I'm sorry you're having such a tough time. I agree that we must address what is depressing us (hard work indeed) but I would be afraid to quit my meds. My doctor took me off one pretty abruptly and I went straight down into a deep depression. I think like any other profession that are diamonds in the rough, they are just hard to find.

thanks jennifer1967....I am a friend here...I am not prescribing anything...I believe very strongly in whatever works for you...

but I am now turning against psychiatry...I feel it necessary to warn my friends here about the dangers of psych drugs....big pharm wants to make money...I don't want to see me being hurt or any of my friends....there is a black box warning about ssri drugs and suicide...

I find it very helpful for my recovery to pay attention to the web site MAD IN AMERICA..

Little turtle is a gem.. he is a friend and not a pill pusher..

He knows that ...

Perhaps a blog would be a better idea though?

I find this a very long thread saying the same thing...

I don't agree with the above.

To be honest, I already feel like I can't say what I'm really feeling anywhere.

Please allow little turtle to speak..

I know how it feels to be silenced. I am running out of "treatment options irl.. "

((((((( little turtle )))))) has some good ideas , imo

No disrespect to anyone on pc.

Please... let little turtle speak

I agree with whatever works for each person.

((((((( little turtle )))))) thank you for all you share here

Frankly, without you and a couple of others here, this bear might well be a "dead bear"

id be dead also....alive but dead.....we must speak out even if some don't like it...

I agree, thinking of you little turtle

That doesn't sound strange to me, I am the same, I have been depressed since a little kid, and have had several suicides in my family so it seems to have been an option to some in my family. I am now 56, still here! and doing better most of the time. Psychologist helped a lot more than psychiatrist ever. I do take meds and know I HAVE to. Sometimes I could only hang on a moment at a time but I did, and here I am. That and my animals, they need me and that means everything.

hi wuca...thanks for the reply...what was the cause of your depression...

a true confession--------------I like valium.....I love my valium...it was my big helper for years...I don't take it right now....and I haven't taken it regularly for about 7 years...
I sure needed it when I was working in the mental health clinics and hospitals...I don't need it most of the time now.....

I cant understand why psychiatry has tended to discourage it...they say it is addictive...of course it is...maybe they like to prescribe new drugs....more money is made on new drugs...

I definitely depended on valium...probably addicted...but it helped me thru the
stress of practicing psychiatry...it was very hard for me...

sophiesmom----can you say more....it might be helpful for me...

I am a patient here....I am someone trying to deal with a major mood disorder...
I need a lot of help in this world of awful problems...I need your help

In your long experience, what has helped if only a little?

I notice you mentioned valium. I have taken another benzodiazepine for many years, and I would have to say it has been of more practical help to me than any antidepressant. But it is no cure.

Exercise and diet may have slowed my descent into depression, but they did not prevent it.

Having a dog at my side was helpful in some ways, but insufficient to boost me out of my pit.

I have been a compliant patient, but I have little to show for it.

How can we help you.. I'm another "patient" here

I too need a lot of help in this world of awful problems..

In my "case", the doctors didn't even get the dx (s) correct (imho.)

I too have probably found benzos more helpful than any antidepressant but they are definitely not a cure. And they are out of favour with many prescribers now (or have been for a long time, idk.)

Diet and exercise can help.. again not a cure..

Thank you for asking little turtle these questions and for contributing to this (helpful) thread

dear rohag------valium helped...an old psychiatrist actually cared about me but he died too soon....and a woman psychologist showed her love for me...
she helped me....but rohag nothing is going to help my thinking about the world being an awful place and that we have to die...

fuzzy you have already helped me...I just want to love and be loved for who I am.....