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Default May 26, 2018 at 09:00 AM
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sweet fuzzy----i am ok...thanks..
i am needy...
i am weak...
sometimes i am strong...
when i had my big breakdown i was soooo needy and weak...
i just couldn't help it...but i don't like somebody else saying
those things about me...i don't like somebody else putting me down...
about anything...and i have to try like hell not to do that to anyone..
like to myself..dear fuzzy thanks for your help..
Yeah I guess in times of desperation and misery we all feel very needy and weak like I m feeling right now. But I guess its ok
 
 
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Default May 26, 2018 at 09:03 AM
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There is A LOT of talk about meds..

As I can’t take them this affects me deeply and sometimes it takes a LOT of “strength” not to feed on the stupid doctors .. (not anyone here)

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I have the same problem Fuzzy. I can't take SSRI's. I have a bad reaction to them, so I have to try to handle my issues without things like that, and it can be extreemly hard to get through just one day, let alone a lifetime. I try to handle days a little at a time...
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sweet fuzzy----i am ok...thanks..
i am needy...
i am weak...
sometimes i am strong...
when i had my big breakdown i was soooo needy and weak...
i just couldn't help it...but i don't like somebody else saying
those things about me...i don't like somebody else putting me down...
about anything...and i have to try like hell not to do that to anyone..
like to myself..dear fuzzy thanks for your help..
((((((((( little turtle )))))))))

I’m glad you’re back . I think people who say those sorts of things to others may have a “problem” with “anger”

I don’t like somebody else putting me down. Grrrrrrrr.

I don’t say those things to anyone


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Default May 26, 2018 at 03:34 PM
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i continue reading the book ---ANATOMY OF AN EPIDEMIC by Robert whitaker...
it is very disturbing to me because I may have harmed some of my patients..
I was just following what I was taught to do...but now maybe things have changed..
at least I didn't treat any children... thank goodness....it is hard not feeling guilty...
actually I wish I was back in there...I know better now...these drugs can be very dangerous if not used with caution and continued learning about alternative care...
and when to stop the drugs...

actually I was treating my depression the same way I was treating my patients...so that was good...I was taking the same antidepressants and benzos...I was right there with my patients..

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i continue reading the book ---ANATOMY OF AN EPIDEMIC by Robert whitaker...
it is very disturbing to me because I may have harmed some of my patients..
I was just following what I was taught to do...but now maybe things have changed..
at least I didn't treat any children... thank goodness....it is hard not feeling guilty...
actually I wish I was back in there...I know better now...these drugs can be very dangerous if not used with caution and continued learning about alternative care...
and when to stop the drugs...
((((((((( little turtle ))))))))

I agree about the drugs . Too many are put on the drugs with little or no follow up and no therapy . And aren’t even “told” by the doctor to try to learn about alternative care . At least this is what happened to me ..

I’m grateful to have “met” you, as I didn’t feel, and still don’t, feel “cared about” in the slightest by any of the doctors in this forest. A couple I think did care or tried to care were completely constrained by the “system” etc and didn’t help either

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i continue reading the book ---ANATOMY OF AN EPIDEMIC by Robert whitaker...
it is very disturbing to me because I may have harmed some of my patients..
I was just following what I was taught to do...but now maybe things have changed..
at least I didn't treat any children... thank goodness....it is hard not feeling guilty...
actually I wish I was back in there...I know better now...these drugs can be very dangerous if not used with caution and continued learning about alternative care...
and when to stop the drugs...

actually I was treating my depression the same way I was treating my patients...so that was good...I was taking the same antidepressants and
benzos...I was right there with my patients..
I do take benzos (and one other unheard of by most med.


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((((((((( little turtle ))))))))

I agree about the drugs . Too many are put on the drugs with little or no follow up and no therapy . And aren’t even “told” by the doctor to try to learn about alternative care . At least this is what happened to me ..

I’m grateful to have “met” you, as I didn’t feel, and still don’t, feel “cared about” in the slightest by any of the doctors in this forest. A couple I think did care or tried to care were completely constrained by the “system” etc and didn’t help either

I hope I can relate with you fuzzy patient to patient...
not doctor to patient...I am a person...I am just a person...
I want to love and be loved...person to person...yes..what do you think
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I hope I can relate with you fuzzy patient to patient...
not doctor to patient...I am a person...I am just a person...
I want to love and be loved...person to person...yes..what do you think
I agree, I think of you as a good friend, not “my doctor” or as a doctor in particular, I do find your insights and posts helpful and refreshing. I’m just a person and so are you - I too want to love and be loved

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I just had some wine...I have had a cocktail hour with my wife for 63 years ....
95 % of the time it is good...a couple of times it was bad...but no hitting..
tonight we talked about whether to hide things or bring them out in the light...
we have a difference about this....as a patient I now want to bring everything out in the open..i am just a depressed guy who is scared about the way the world is going...I don't like it...it scares me..it makes me so sad...I see so much suffering ..
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I agree, I think of you as a good friend, not “my doctor” or as a doctor in particular, I do find your insights and posts helpful and refreshing. I’m just a person and so are you - I too want to love and be loved


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I just had some wine...I have had a cocktail hour with my wife for 63 years ....
95 % of the time it is good...a couple of times it was bad...but no hitting..
tonight we talked about whether to hide things or bring them out in the light...
we have a difference about this....as a patient I now want to bring everything out in the open..i am just a depressed guy who is scared about the way the world is going...I don't like it...it scares me..it makes me so sad...I see so much suffering ..
Whether to hide things or bring them out into the light.. Papa Bear and I don’t really agree about this either. Mostly “little” things like my collection of stuffies, he doesn’t think there is anything wrong with my collecting stuffies, I know there isn’t anything wrong with it. But his family is, I guess, “reserved” and “conventional” - with one possible NPD (I hope not ).. and the “family” I came from were secretive to the extreme, judgemental, rejecting (maybe gaslighting,
haven’t really looked into that (yet) ...... it’s amazing I’m not more “crazy” than I am

The world scares me too and makes me sad .. I hate that there is so much suffering ..

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Whether to hide things or bring them out into the light.. Papa Bear and I don’t really agree about this either. Mostly “little” things like my collection of stuffies, he doesn’t think there is anything wrong with my collecting stuffies, I know there isn’t anything wrong with it. But his family is, I guess, “reserved” and “conventional” - with one possible NPD (I hope not ).. and the “family” I came from were secretive to the extreme, judgemental, rejecting (maybe gaslighting,
haven’t really looked into that (yet) ...... it’s amazing I’m not more “crazy” than I am

The world scares me too and makes me sad .. I hate that there is so much suffering ..

fuzzy---can we be on a fuzzy bus...I want to listen to confessions
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fuzzy---can we be on a fuzzy bus...I want to listen to confessions
You’re much more “likeable” than me little turtle. And being forced to be “hypervigilant” it’s easy for me to notice behaviours etc that many would miss..

Heh. I wish I hadn’t been so stupid as to give that therapist so many “chances”

It’s in my nature to be “forgiving”

Although some, especially the step maternal unit ... could find Nothing good about me..... do you think maybe she had “bigger issues”...

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You’re much more “likeable” than me little turtle. And being forced to be “hypervigilant” it’s easy for me to notice behaviours etc that many would miss..

Heh. I wish I hadn’t been so stupid as to give that therapist so many “chances”

It’s in my nature to be “forgiving”

Although some, especially the step maternal unit ... could find Nothing good about me..... do you think maybe she had “bigger issues”...


fuzzy will you be my therapist on the bus....
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fuzzy will you be my therapist on the bus....
I can try to be your therapist on the bus...

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I can try to be your therapist on the bus...


can we start now...I am coming to see you now for help..
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fuzzy---I went to a meeting last week....I kept up on my physical activity...
but I was not eating healthy...I had pie and cake twice a day for 5 days...
I think my brain has suffered the aftereffects...

we could have group therapy with fuzzy being the therapist..
anyone else interested...fuzzy would you be the group therapist..
after you practice with us you could do whatever..
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fuzzy I am reading that book ANATOMY OF AN EPIDEMIC...
I am getting more disturbed about what is happening to children...
my wife says stop reading that...but I need to know what is going on with
these medicines we are getting...and the psych meds kids are getting..
what is going on...what happened to DO NO HARM...it makes me sad and mad..

fuzzy what do you think I should do...
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I just want to cry...but I cant..
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