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Old Jan 31, 2020, 09:23 AM
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i called back and talked with her....i was so sorry....
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i am really beating myself up .....
1. Rude communication
2. Regret
3. Apology
4. Continued or even intensified regret, self-thrashing

One would think (?) that #3 would reduce the feelings of guilt and regret, but so frequently they do not. This reflects my personal experience, too.

I am perplexed at how my mind and emotions work.
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Old Jan 31, 2020, 09:42 AM
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thanks rohag....i tend to have a guilty mind....i cant stand hurting others....
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Old Jan 31, 2020, 04:20 PM
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1. Rude communication
2. Regret
3. Apology
4. Continued or even intensified regret, self-thrashing

One would think (?) that #3 would reduce the feelings of guilt and regret, but so frequently they do not. This reflects my personal experience, too.

I am perplexed at how my mind and emotions work.
Good post dear Rohag
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Old Jan 31, 2020, 04:20 PM
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thanks rohag....i tend to have a guilty mind....i cant stand hurting others....
little turtle, I wish there were more kind and thoughtful people like you and others on the AS IS bus
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Old Jan 31, 2020, 04:23 PM
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1. Rude communication
2. Regret
3. Apology
4. Continued or even intensified regret, self-thrashing

One would think (?) that #3 would reduce the feelings of guilt and regret, but so frequently they do not. This reflects my personal experience, too.

I am perplexed at how my mind and emotions work.
Also there are some ''individuals'' who refuse to accept a sincere apology I think such individuals usually share a certain cluster of traits... and yes there were many of them in the FOO - ''family'' of origin

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Old Feb 01, 2020, 02:04 PM
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1. Rude communication
2. Regret
3. Apology
4. Continued or even intensified regret, self-thrashing

One would think (?) that #3 would reduce the feelings of guilt and regret, but so frequently they do not. This reflects my personal experience, too.

I am perplexed at how my mind and emotions work.
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Old Feb 01, 2020, 03:19 PM
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I wish it was so easy. “Just” take the “right med” and depression and anxiety goes away.

Little turtle, do you think it is that simple?
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Old Feb 01, 2020, 04:03 PM
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I wish it was so easy. “Just” take the “right med” and depression and anxiety goes away.

Little turtle, do you think it is that simple?
dear fuzzy ---it wasn't simple for me...i still suffered alot....
but i like the valium and wine and coffee....some temporary help...
i wish i wish i wish----- for something that works....
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Old Feb 01, 2020, 05:19 PM
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How are you finding the mindfulness Little Turtle?

Do you practice it with a guided meditation or independently?
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Old Feb 01, 2020, 06:13 PM
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How are you finding the mindfulness Little Turtle?

Do you practice it with a guided meditation or independently?
hugs to you TS.....i am practicing by myself....
i have hopes about this mind thing...
i like jon kabat-zinn.....

how about you...
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Old Feb 02, 2020, 05:17 AM
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hugs to you TS.....i am practicing by myself....
i have hopes about this mind thing...
i like jon kabat-zinn.....

how about you...
Thank you Little Turtle.
I am easily distracted, so less good at working on it by myself.
I will look at Jon's work.

Meditation is a little help for me.
I have hopes for it too..

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Old Feb 02, 2020, 07:41 AM
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kabat-zinn says we live out our lives on an ocean of fear...
maybe about death and betrayal or abandonment...
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Old Feb 02, 2020, 10:21 PM
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Old Feb 03, 2020, 10:34 AM
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self-compassion.....we are human beings...
i am dealing now with my guilty feelings and thoughts...
wow...this is something else......very hard...
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Old Feb 03, 2020, 02:39 PM
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There is something positive in this mindfulness
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Old Feb 03, 2020, 02:43 PM
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self-compassion.....we are human beings...
i am dealing now with my guilty feelings and thoughts...
wow...this is something else......very hard...


This is hard for me too.
Thank you for speaking of it LT...

I have trouble with self empathy and compassion for my inner cub.
No wonder TS struggles with this today...
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Old Feb 03, 2020, 03:56 PM
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Old Feb 05, 2020, 04:06 AM
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Old Feb 06, 2020, 11:49 AM
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today is a valium day x2....
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Old Feb 08, 2020, 04:36 PM
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i am reading the book CHOICE THEORY by dr glasser....
he says good relationships are vital to health...
i will read on....my marriage causes me so much stress...
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