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Has anyone came across anyone who has faked DID? Like in your treatment programs or anything?
For most people I am actually worried about their well being, that they fake anything for attention. Especially something that requires a lot of acting out. Because inducing attention in that sort of way is a d/o in and of itself. But there is one person who I cannot forgive and I feel really bad about it. I feel so guilty. My team says that we should support each other, because we're "similar". But we're not. I'm mad at her. It's a long story. But I have a treatment team and the clients we all know each other, we all go to group therapies, etc together. Well this girl appeared to have what everyone thinks of as DID. She would speak in demonic tones, tell people she had multiple personalities, throw herself on the ground and start crying, etc. I mean it had to take most of this girls energy to keep this up. Because I knew nothing about DID at the time, I just thought that that was what it looked like. I didn't know any different. Some therapist diagnosed her with DID and sent her off to my team, who also just assumed she had DID. Who are also not trained to diagnose, obviously. My DID went unnoticed by myself and anyone else who professionally treated me, because of this girl. In fact they started to believe I had it, directly after she came back from the same hospital that diagnosed me, they undiagnosed her. They assumed and I assumed that DID people acted like her, and so I just had PTSD and depression. I am SO angry. That for years she kept this up and it delayed my treatment so much. Does she have any idea what I've been through for the last three-four years trying to find answers? Trying to get people to understand what I'm going through. And it was right there all along. Right under my nose. I know I should be upset with my providers, and I was. I went through a lot of that in the hospital. Being upset at the mental health world. They told me point blank I didn't have DID, because I DIDN'T ACT LIKE HER. She told everyone she had DID. Even myself. It was a good source of denial. "Well you don't act like *Amy, so you don't have DID". Yep that's what I told myself, over and over and over again. If it walks like a duck, it must be a duck. But no, it was a goose. It was directly after she got undiagnosed that people started to put pieces together. Her irresponsibility delayed my life by years. While I sat by just teetering on the edge, she held the answer in the palm of her hand. We're similar how? Because she faked DID and I have DID? We both have trauma backgrounds. Hers just led to borderline instead of DID. But I just get upset by being compared to her, because quite obviously that didn't work well in the past. JUST an FYI though this doesn't mean I hate all people who fake it and I'm not on some witch hunt to find fakers now or anything. And I don't want anyone to point at themselves and call themselves fakers, as a form of denial, because I would do that. This girl knew, very consciously, that she was playing with professionals. |
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Maybe I should be more understanding that she thought she would loose professionals if she wasn't really sick. And that was her borderline talking. But it's so hard. It's even harder, because she has no idea what she did. She doesn't know I have DID. She obviously doesn't know what DID looks like, or she would have done a better job.
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i think you have a right to have anger towards her. but not only her, but also the mental health community that dealt with the both of you. i feel like they should have been better educated to know what DID looks/ed like before just agreeing with what this girl said. further more it is never ok to generalize someones symptoms and say if you don't act like so and so you aren't "sick". i'm sure DID looks different from person to person, not one experience is the same. granted i am no authority on the matter, and i myself do not have DID. these are just my opinions... take them for what they are worth which might not be much.
the one thing i DO KNOW is you have a right to feel angry. id write her a letter (w/o giving it to her) about how you feel about what she's done and how that has made you feel. maybe it will give you closure.
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Sad this post makes me. Sad that the person thought having such a diagnosis what worthy of a lot of attention. No illness is worth that kind of attention. Then again DID is hard to diagnose and recognize. So...perhaps this person has a little of both. Something clearly is not the way it should be with that person.
As for you LydiaB. You have every right to be furious. Your trust was violated in my opinion. It resembles a kind of manipulation we have experienced in the past by those it was suppose to be safe to trust. So express that fury and outrage. It is very very healthy. Now mind you, you cannot actually hurt that individual...just keep your distance for your sake. Those are my thoughts on the matter. |
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I have never seen this, but i have been manipulated and hurt by people. This girl manipulated those around her and you were hurt. You were also hurt by the team of professionals misdiagnosing the both of you. Also letting her go on so long like she did was
probably not good either. I'm very sorry this happened to you. Her treatment and diagnosis shouldnt have affected yours. That was unfair to BOTH of you. You are separate individuals and each individual is unique and different. You could have both been DID. Two depressed individuals can act completely different. One might sleep all the time, the other maybe cant sleep at all. One might cry, the other might get angry and violent. Yet they are both just as depressed. We are complex beings. I am more angry at the treatment providers than the girl who was "faking" DID. She is ill and needs treatment. She has a reason for her behavior. The counselors, therapists or psychiatrists were just the same small minded unlistening numbskulls i' ve encountered too many times to count. |
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the labels arent so important by that I mean any one can convince theirself they have anything... cold flu, PTSD, or even dID. they may not ***really*** in the medical or physical sense but mentally they believe they do... lydia do something for me.... think about your posting here... what if someone told you.. I dont believe what you just posted, you cant have that because of this that and the other thing... you believe what you posted is real but others may not...how would that make you feel.. would that cause you more mental stress or less mental stress if someone was putting you in your place because they didnt believe you... the reason I am asking you to think about this is because this is the kind of decision treatment providers have to make.. whether or not to believe a client, whether or not the client ***really*** has what they beleive they have and how to best treat this client.. would it cause more problems or less to let the client believe they have the disorder they believe they have and work on the symptoms or would it be less harmful for the client to be told the harsh truth.. we dont believe you, you dont have this now stop the faking right now talk.. here where I live and work we treat the symptoms not the diagnostic label. here where I live and work we know how people can talk their self into having physical and mental health diagnoses. the brain is an amazing thing. last week we has a woman client coming to the crisis center she went into labor.. she wasnt pregnant but her body reacted like it was, she had all the symptoms..she had been raped and feared being pregnant by the abuser so her body reacted with that fear. her doctors tried to tell her she wasnt preg but her physical body reacted differently showing all the symptoms, morning sickness, lack of period, mood swings.. the more her treatment providers tried getting through to her the more mental distress she was in. she tried to commit suicide because no one believed her. we and her other treatment providers decided instead of trying to break through her idea that shes pregnant by treating the label (pregancy) we treated the symptoms. last week with a mental break through related to her PTSD problems she went into labor. physically she appeared to be in labor and mentally too. physically her body is back on track and mentally shes going to be ok. treatment providers telling someone they are faking the label and not treating the symptoms sometimes can do more harm than good. in some cases treating the client **as if they have what they believe they have** can do more good than harm. yes sometimes that makes things harder for those that really do have the label but in the end it isnt labels that count anyway. its the symptoms. A person can be treated for their symptoms that come with DID without being diagnosed DID. look around psych central theres lots of people who have not been officially diagnosed with things but are getting treated for their symptoms. again Im sorry those treatment providers gave you a hard time but I can also understand why they believed that other person and treated her the way they did. |
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I own an online forum for people with DID and over the padt several years weve had some fakers. It is really sad& it bothers me too. I dont know why in the world anyone would want to pretend to have DID. Its not a fun or fabulous thing to have.
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I would run from that treatment team; none of the "symptoms"/act you describe in that girl would pass for DID diagnosis. If the diagnosis/treatment team made that kind of mistake with both her and you for that long; why do you think they will treat you well/"correctly" now?
Good scholarly article: http://www.fortea.us/english/psiquia...ssociative.htm
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lydia do something for me.... think about your posting here... what if someone told you.. I dont believe what you just posted, you cant have that because of this that and the other thing... you believe what you posted is real but others may not...how would that make you feel.. would that cause you more mental stress or less mental stress if someone was putting you in your place because they didnt believe you...
But that's exactly what happened to me. They called me a liar. I knew before they knew that others existed. I tried telling them and they told me "You know *Amy? She's told you she has DID, she has DID. You don't." I was the liar. Not her. It's not the label I wanted. It was mostly them that wanted acknowledged and I got REALLY sick when everyone called me a liar. I have never been that sick in my life. I couldn't shower. I couldn't leave my home. I was consistently suicidal. I thought I was going crazy. I was one step away from killing myself. When they denied them, so did I. I don't know if you remember what it's like to not acknowledge them yourself, but it's sickening. Because of her lies, I was told I was a liar. They weren't treating her symptoms at all. If they were they would be trying to get at the reason behind why she was lying and fix that. |
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But the rest of the team just sucks. They told me at ten o clock this morning I had an eleven o clock appt. And then made me wait till noon. I wanted to scream. |
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The worry over whether another part will harm you, or do something you wouldn't do. It's like someone dressing up as me and streaking down the streets. Everybody points and says "Lydia that was you". And then you have to take responsibility for it, because well it was your body. Apologizing for stuff you have no control over. The total lack of control in general. O and the part where you get called a liar because you DON'T look like the hollywood version. Or you get called a liar, because doctors only choose to look at hollywood versions and call it bologna. So you walk around with this massive red "X" on your forehead. Knowing you're sane, but everyone thinks your crazy. We adapted. We're not crazy. We're creative, we're intelligent. Whatever you want to call it. But we're not crazy. If put in our situations, would they have been able to survive like us? |
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Saying all that, I can understand your anger in feeling this other person held you back in getting the correct treatment you needed and I'm sorry you feel the professionals pandered to it but know you can start to let this go? Concentrate on you and your system, you no longer have to think of this other persons behaviour. Learning about DID, the causes, the difficulties and indeed you will get to a point where you will be grateful that you had that ability to dissociate from the trauma at a young age. There is plenty to cuss at regarding DID but there is also a place you come to where you realize it saved you... ![]()
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Maybe she wanted to have it so she could pretend to forget the probable abuse that happened to her. Of course it doesn't work like that, but maybe she thought it could. We just don't know.
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Maybe. I don't know. I'm just getting used to being able to feel anger, so it lays on thick sometimes, over stuff I shouldn't be angry about.
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(((((((((( LydiaB )))))))))))
I'm really sorry that you have been through all of that. I certainly can understand why you feel angry towards this other client and towards your team as well. I do think that Perna is right though, I think it would do you well to look for other theraputic supports. I take issue with T's and Pdocs etc. that don't LISTEN to their clients. One size does NOT fit all!! There may come a time in the future when you will be able to let go of your anger for this situation. I hope you can come to that place as it will truly give you some peace when you get there. As for facing and feeling your anger and being new at it.....I get that. It can be scary to go there and there may be some missteps along the way while you are learning about it and how to deal with it. That's okay! The fact that you are willing to go there, touch it, feel it, express it and then deal with it is awesome. But, like any child first learning to walk, they will have some bumps along the way....just like we adults do when learning about ourselves as well. I wish you well Lydia.....please take good care! ![]() sabby |
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yes this was a horrible situation. no one other than the treatment providers that did this knows why it happened. you cant go back and have then treat you differently. all we can do is tell you we are sorry that it happened, tell you our opinions about how such a thing happens in our locations. but only you can - self sooth, self nurture, make it so that you can move on beyond this, only you can decide whether you are going to let this - hold you captive in thoughts about it take you down, learn what ever you need to from it, or bring yourself back out of it. Again Im sorry that happened to you. |
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I know I have to take it into consideration. It's just hard. They also provide me rides to my therapy appts almost 45 minutes away and I have no other way of getting there. I tried looking at public transit, but nothing lands even near there. And it's a bad part of town anyway.
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Why anybody would fake DID is beyond me. Given the fact that you were then affected by the professionals diagnosis is outrageous. You were both misdiagnosed. The professional people obviously lacked training.
I am very sorry you had to go through that. You need to concentrate on you now. You have enough energy for you. Maybe you can write a letter to whoever you need to expressing your anger, let it all out, then burn it. Or maybe it would be okay for your T to see it. There is a force in anger. Use it to help you, let it out. Don't let it fester. |
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((((Lydia))) i'm glad you have the correct diagnosis now. I found a book called " got parts" it might be helpful. I like it. I havent even been dxed did. My T thinks i have schizophrenia, but the book is helpful to me. Especially the time management. It even says how you can put some alters in " lockdown" if they are doing bad things but idont really understand that part. That would be great.
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Not knowing I had DID, made my life completely a mess. I didnt understand why I was always missing things, always forgetting things, and it would take me twice as long to figure things out that others could do easily.
Couldnt remember significant events in my life, and had unexplained changes in myself that I couldn't control........I had no explanation, and nothing to go on, just the fact I was a disorganized freak... Knowing about DID, has given me self awareness, understanding why I do things and realizing this is not just some random arbitrary freak show. Do I believe labels help? In my case yes, and no I don't blame everything on DID....and amandalouise, I, in fact feel horribly to find out that DID is a "last resort" diagnosis, because how trapping can it feel to be treated for things that might be some of your symptoms but not the problem as a whole? I know its a controversy, I know there are fakers, but true DID is horrible, its just horrible. Im sorry, but thats what it is, you have no control over yourself, you cant explain your behaviors, and people judge you, and you are middiagnosed as shizophrenic, psychotic, bipolar, etc etc etc...when the truth is much deeper, when the uncontrolled life is much more than mood swings, but complete shifts in self. This crap is confusing enough without a name...not knowing why you do things, why you are here or there.....and there is no explanation!!! This crap sucks okay? DID is one big sucky pool of horribleness, shame, anger, makes you do things that are embarassing.... knowing that this was something that had a name, and was not just a problem with no name, no hope, no anything made it a tiny bit tolerable. Its just, I understand the hesitation, but if someone has DID, they just have it and I dont see why its such a big denial.... Fakers have caused so much pain for real DID, fakers make it harder for real DID to get help, and to make sense of this ongoing confusion. Excuse me if I sound a bit angry, just ...frustrated since DID carries its own baggage of denial on top of all the misdiagnoses and failures and social stigma. It makes us feel like we cannot speak of our symptoms because of shame and controversy. All the pain continues until someone willing, opens their eyes/ears. The vent has finished. Puzzle_ Puzzle_
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knowing that this was something that had a name, and was not just a problem with no name, no hope, no anything made it a tiny bit tolerable.
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I often was ashamed, my friends since I could remember would ask me why I was so different after a period of time.... and I would have to hide it and make up excuses and I would feel lost, so lost as to why things were suddenly so different and why I couldnt relate to what was essentially myself. ....and it all felt like a bunch of random problems and I had no idea this even was an actual problem defined somewhere on paper. The Dx. doesnt make it fun, or better or worse...its just ..well I finally know Im not just a random freak, I actually have a defined treatable problem. Puzzle_ Puzzle_
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Despite all, your able to make it through your day? Before she knew what my coping mechanism was. I would feel confused myself, why I seemed to make it despite my life. Puzzle_ Puzzle_
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There were also times when I had to take breaks from school due to family emergencies that had my teachers baffled. They were surprised that I was able to keep up even though I was ADHD, missing half my lessons and going through what they considered to be really difficult times. I'm grateful that I can cope with difficult situations, but I never know how to respond when someone inquires about it. I always end up fumbling my answer and passing it off as a bad joke. Just once I'd like to be able to answer honestly. |
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